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Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something
Horrocks? Pfft, it's no Bronffmans Food Barn.

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Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
If U want it?
It's 4 sale okay

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!
Love those pork Dillingers

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

deep dish peat moss posted:

If you wear a cloak and kick too many rhymes in Wegmans they escort you out

When I wear my cloak I assiduously avoid rhymes.

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

Rooster Brooster posted:

I could be the ubermensch presently ensconced in a thick, thick loser stench

this poster gets it

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

Big Bowie Bonanza posted:

hope no one in this thread weighs their 8 oz steak after its cooked at texas roadhouse

There's a burger place in a town where I lived that did post-cooked weight and it turns out a half pound burger is actually pretty huge.

Salt Fish posted:

Wegmans is what snooty east coasters think a great grocery store looks like but they've never been to horrocks.

People who think Wegmen's and Horrock's are any good have clearly never shopped at Glerbmund's

The Moon Monster fucked around with this message at 10:48 on Dec 21, 2023

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Wegmans is getting a little worse but not nearly as much as the rest

I think it’s be cause it’s still privately held

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

The Moon Monster posted:

People who think Wegmen's and Horrock's are any good have clearly never shopped at Glerbmund's

I heard Glerbmund's was employing underage kids to work under the checkout counter. They make them lay on their back with their feet in the air, and they move the conveyor belts Flintstones style.

Nettle Soup
Jan 30, 2010

Oh, and Jones was there too.

dr_rat posted:

Just put the frozen meal into the microwaves meal slot and say your prompt, and then the advance microwave meals ai will mix up all the core components in the meal into a slop like thing that if you squint really hard could conceivably look like what ever prompt you gave it! All in just 4 hrs!!! All yours for just $1800*

*plus additional $22.95 a month ai access fee.

**AI frozen microwave meals microwave only usable with AI frozen microwave meals, available through AI frozen microwave meals, meals subscription service.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbzdGR-pOr8

Amazon tried to convince me I wanted one of these a while back. The OMNI-COOK! Replace all your kitchen gadgets with one, lovely kitchen gadget!

Virigoth
Apr 28, 2009

Corona rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M. get the virus
In the ICU y'all......



Why are airlines trying to sell me credit cards on my flights again??

Counterpoint: they have magically stopped charging for booze for some reason the past few flights I’ve had.

Canine Blues Arooo
Jan 7, 2008

when you think about it...i'm the first girl you ever spent the night with

Grimey Drawer

Virigoth posted:

Why are airlines trying to sell me credit cards on my flights again??

Counterpoint: they have magically stopped charging for booze for some reason the past few flights I’ve had.

The acquisition value of that demo is super high - I'd imagine they are getting hundreds of dollars per new card issued.

Big Bowie Bonanza
Dec 30, 2007

please tell me where i can date this cute boy
Airline employee here. The credit cards are an absolutely massive profit center. At least at my airline the FAs make a fuckton in bonuses right now for signing people up as well.

ETA: also if you’re in the US and were on an airline that mainly just flies domestic, domestic travel is way down right now so they’ve probably been pushed to do it because that’s how we keep our jobs rn

Big Bowie Bonanza fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Dec 23, 2023

rafikki
Mar 8, 2008

I see what you did there. (It's pretty easy, since ducks have a field of vision spanning 340 degrees.)

~SMcD


I live in a United hub and fly regularly so their $99/yr card is a no brainer for the free lounge passes and a handful of other perks. I literally only use it to book flights I would otherwise, but I guess it gets made up for in other places.

Cerekk
Sep 24, 2004

Oh my god, JC!
Delta made $5.5 billion from their Amex partnership last year and a total profit of $5.0 billion. They are a money-losing business without the cards, and the most successful airline in the country with them.

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


Cerekk posted:

Delta made $5.5 billion from their Amex partnership last year and a total profit of $5.0 billion. They are a money-losing business without the cards, and the most successful airline in the country with them.

Who's ready for the collapse of commercial air travel :confuoot:

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Virigoth posted:

Why are airlines trying to sell me credit cards on my flights again??

Counterpoint: they have magically stopped charging for booze for some reason the past few flights I’ve had.

Airline rewards programs are worth more than the airline they are attached to, and it's not even close.

Airlines are basically banks with planes

Extra row of tits
Oct 31, 2020
The weather.

I walked into work at 1130 at night wearing shorts and a sleeveless tee because it was so hot. I was muggy and uncomfortable all shift.

Now it’s hometime and for some reason it’s absolutely pissing down and cold.

nbakyfan
Dec 19, 2005
Checking out at stores. It should be a simple process of scan the item, let me tap my credit card and leave. Now it’s a 2-3 minute process of trying to be signed up for their loyalty program, being told upcoming deals, asking for email addresses etc. Just let me pay and leave.

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

nbakyfan posted:

Checking out at stores. It should be a simple process of scan the item, let me tap my credit card and leave. Now it’s a 2-3 minute process of trying to be signed up for their loyalty program, being told upcoming deals, asking for email addresses etc. Just let me pay and leave.

Sounds like what you need is a self-checkout!

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

nbakyfan posted:

Just let me pay and leave.

No.

Someone, somewhere decided that all customers are not valued customers to be valued and nurtured, and instead are simple resources to be exploited. The second that happe ed everyone else did to and we rapidly stated going downhill.

I think its ultimately the issue of optimization and number going up, once that starts dehumanization is inevitable.

Nettle Soup
Jan 30, 2010

Oh, and Jones was there too.

Oh man I went to Ikea the other day to get a box for a christmas present. Got to the checkout and they were all like 5 deep and everyone with trollies competely full of tat. Walked right past them all, tapped my card on the "scan it as you go" checkout, and was out of there in like 2 minutes, despite being flagged for a bag check. I don't think the lines had even moved by the time I was gone.

In the UK I don't think I've ever been pushed to sign up for anything at a till. Even places with loyalty cards generally don't ask. Maybe a "if you had one you'd get a discount?" but I think it's on you to do it yourself most of the time.

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


Outrail posted:

No.

Someone, somewhere decided that all customers are not valued customers to be valued and nurtured, and instead are simple resources to be exploited. The second that happe ed everyone else did to and we rapidly stated going downhill.

I think its ultimately the issue of optimization and number going up, once that starts dehumanization is inevitable.

It's the decline of the real economy due to the ever increasing energy cost of energy, peak fossil fuels happened in 2018 and it's only downhill from here. Literally every mainstream theory of value from libertarianism to Marxism is wrong, value comes from surplus energy which is what is going down and will continue to go down. In the meantime in the world of money, number must still go up or there is no return on investment and capitalism dies, so every possible expense is being ruthlessly slashed while the oligarchs hoard resources and build doomsday bunkers for the collapse they've seen coming for 50 years

Woolie Wool fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Dec 24, 2023

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Marxism ….wrong ??

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


euphronius posted:

Marxism ….wrong ??

The labor theory of value is, but the marginal theory of value espoused by the right is even more wrong, because human labor is a (weak) source of surplus energy while marginal utility is total nonsense. Ironically Marx's idea of surplus value much more accurately describes pre-industrial societies where fuels are a relatively insignificant source of power compared to labor.

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Buglord
Instagram is integrating Threads into my timeline and 9/10 times they do it, its always inflammatory hate or culture war BS



Glad to know they're really no better than Twitter in any regard.

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
nposter
Nap Ghost
price of oil across the last five years

cost of solar per kw since 2010

cost of wind per kw since the 80s

net generation of electricity by source since 2008

average kw/h usage per person since 1960



There are still massive parts of the world where steady electrical power is not a given, and as infrastructure is built to roll out to them the overall consumption of electricity will naturally increase, but its facile to say that the economy is grinding down because of energy prices.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

Outrail posted:

No.

Someone, somewhere decided that all customers are not valued customers to be valued and nurtured, and instead are simple resources to be exploited. The second that happe ed everyone else did to and we rapidly stated going downhill.

I think its ultimately the issue of optimization and number going up, once that starts dehumanization is inevitable.

Customers exist to be consumed, and consumed they will be, if not by this generation then by some future. By what right does this forgotten future seek to deny us our birthright?

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

skooma512 posted:

Customers exist to be consumed, and consumed they will be, if not by this generation then by some future. By what right does this forgotten future seek to deny us our birthright?

If we gently caress up the planet, some future society is going to invent time travel, and they'll come back and gently caress us up. But we don't need a time machine to prevent them from from inventing time machines. Press the advantage and bomb them into the stone age while we have the chance.

Note to future societies: This is a post made in jest, please don't send a terminator to chrono-punch my dad's nuts.

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

buglord posted:

Instagram is integrating Threads into my timeline and 9/10 times they do it, its always inflammatory hate or culture war BS



Glad to know they're really no better than Twitter in any regard.

So threads is now officially the successor to FB then?
Presumably half as bright, half as long.

Tarkus
Aug 27, 2000

Klansmen are not men.

galagazombie
Oct 31, 2011

A silly little mouse!

Woolie Wool posted:

The labor theory of value is, but the marginal theory of value espoused by the right is even more wrong, because human labor is a (weak) source of surplus energy while marginal utility is total nonsense. Ironically Marx's idea of surplus value much more accurately describes pre-industrial societies where fuels are a relatively insignificant source of power compared to labor.

Do you think the power plants are natural formations that create electricity ex nihilo or something? Energy is meaningless without the labor to extract, transform, and use it.

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

Outrail posted:

No.

Someone, somewhere decided that all customers are not valued customers to be valued and nurtured, and instead are simple resources to be exploited. The second that happe ed everyone else did to and we rapidly stated going downhill.

I think its ultimately the issue of optimization and number going up, once that starts dehumanization is inevitable.

I've had this rough idea rolling about in my head for maybe a decade. About optimization that is. I think things are becoming so drat optimized that it's sucking the life out of everything. Or something to that effect. Can't really put my finger on it. But I've come to think a little of inefficiency maybe is good for society and life in general.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

Nettle Soup posted:

Oh man I went to Ikea the other day to get a box for a christmas present. Got to the checkout and they were all like 5 deep and everyone with trollies competely full of tat. Walked right past them all, tapped my card on the "scan it as you go" checkout, and was out of there in like 2 minutes, despite being flagged for a bag check. I don't think the lines had even moved by the time I was gone.

In the UK I don't think I've ever been pushed to sign up for anything at a till. Even places with loyalty cards generally don't ask. Maybe a "if you had one you'd get a discount?" but I think it's on you to do it yourself most of the time.

With the rise of self-checkouts, the probability hugely increases that the queue at the regular till is full of people either too dumb to use them, or are there to have a row with the cashier. Have fun queueing for 20 minutes while the customers in front of you have the concept of paying for goods carefully explained to them/ demand to see the manager.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

His Divine Shadow posted:

I've had this rough idea rolling about in my head for maybe a decade. About optimization that is. I think things are becoming so drat optimized that it's sucking the life out of everything. Or something to that effect. Can't really put my finger on it. But I've come to think a little of inefficiency maybe is good for society and life in general.

Yeah, I think that's what I was trying to get at. You're not the only one. It's hard to articulate without sounding like a luddite or regressive boomer but it's there. Kind of like 'its sucking the magic and wonder out of everything' at a really low boring level.

Brother Tadger
Feb 15, 2012

I'm accidentally a suicide bomber!

Outrail posted:

Yeah, I think that's what I was trying to get at. You're not the only one. It's hard to articulate without sounding like a luddite or regressive boomer but it's there. Kind of like 'its sucking the magic and wonder out of everything' at a really low boring level.

Kurt Vonnegut wrote about these and similar concepts in his first published novel, Player Piano. I’d highly recommend

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

It's called capitalism

Saganlives
Jul 6, 2005



Outrail posted:

Yeah, I think that's what I was trying to get at. You're not the only one. It's hard to articulate without sounding like a luddite or regressive boomer but it's there. Kind of like 'its sucking the magic and wonder out of everything' at a really low boring level.

I forget now what the exact phrase is, but there's that well known concept in video games that players will optimize the fun out in favor of desired outcome. I think it's just that same concept writ large, with capitalism and life. The rich and powerful, and to a lesser extent everyone else, are constantly seeking the most return for the least work and at the scale our species exists at it becomes widely pervasive.

As always the root problem is capitalism, but I think this is the secondary mechanism that depresses and frustrates society at large. Specifically the fact that most people don't get the benefits of that optimization, and are often the subject of it.

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
nposter
Nap Ghost

Saganlives posted:

I forget now what the exact phrase is, but there's that well known concept in video games that players will optimize the fun out in favor of desired outcome. I think it's just that same concept writ large, with capitalism and life. The rich and powerful, and to a lesser extent everyone else, are constantly seeking the most return for the least work and at the scale our species exists at it becomes widely pervasive.

As always the root problem is capitalism, but I think this is the secondary mechanism that depresses and frustrates society at large. Specifically the fact that most people don't get the benefits of that optimization, and are often the subject of it.

The very top end of capitalism has figured out that techno-feudalism is more profitable then regular capitalistic ventures. (Succesfully) creating or innovating products requires investment in people and material, investing in other ventures requires market insight, but if you corner the market and become a rentseeker than your profits are guaranteed ad infimum. Its the last way to make the number go up forever.

its not really clear what society at large is going to do about becoming indentured servants to the elite class

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

*sharpens broken scissors*

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Saganlives
Jul 6, 2005



Vampire Panties posted:

The very top end of capitalism has figured out that techno-feudalism is more profitable then regular capitalistic ventures. (Succesfully) creating or innovating products requires investment in people and material, investing in other ventures requires market insight, but if you corner the market and become a rentseeker than your profits are guaranteed ad infimum. Its the last way to make the number go up forever.

its not really clear what society at large is going to do about becoming indentured servants to the elite class

As far as I can see, roll over and take it and/or fight among ourselves over derived problems.

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