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On a call where our very German PM is setting up an account on screen that needed a captcha and he spent 5 minutes debating if a highway was a bridge.
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Dec 19, 2023 16:38
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Pyrtanis posted:I used to work in hospitals, and safety was hammered on pretty hard but it was always for a defined purpose, and seeing safety treated like this to the point it's become mocked white noise makes me very disgruntled I work at a desk job at an Electric utility. In my department, I am one of the longer term people with 8.5 years at this company (21 years overall). All the younger people were kinda shocked when I called the “safety topics” at the start of every meeting white noise. Some of the other people were commenting on how much they learn. And all I could think was “wow, you really are that green, aren’t you.”
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Dec 19, 2023 17:35
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Upper management has quietly pivoted from "lol no you can't negotiate anything about your work location you're either on-site or you don't work here" to "we are expanding location negotiable roles as a retention strategy" and hoping nobody notices. Somehow the "we are no longer requiring COVID vaccination in on-boarding to make hiring more efficient" strategy didn't motivate people to pack into elevators, stairwells, and office rooms with coworkers.
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Dec 19, 2023 18:13
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zedprime posted:On a call where our very German PM is setting up an account on screen that needed a captcha and he spent 5 minutes debating if a highway was a bridge. What did he conclude? I tend to hope that captchas are more about "do you move the mouse and pause like a human" than absolutely correct answers, but I'd stare at that for a moment before guessing that a majority and thus the AI would say "yes". And yes I do speak a little bit of German, why do you ask?
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Dec 19, 2023 22:14
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Just press whatever squares on the captcha form until it gives up. It's not like it can take away your humanity if you fail.
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Dec 19, 2023 23:18
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They're not even measuring which squares you click. Most of those captchas these days work by looking through your browsing history and determining if you browse the internet like a human would or like a robot would. You usually don't even see the squares unless it thinks you browse the internet like a robot would, and then when you're clicking squares it's mostly just measuring how erratic your mouse movements are. You don't need to click every square or even only click correct squares!! deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Dec 19, 2023 |
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Dec 19, 2023 23:24
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NFX posted:Just press whatever squares on the captcha form until it gives up. It's not like it can take away your humanity if you fail. There's an optimization problem here where I want to spent the minimum total effort, so paying slightly more attention to do fewer total rounds is probably worth it? deep dish peat moss posted:They're not even measuring which squares you click. Most of those captchas these days work by looking through your browsing history and determining if you browse the internet like a human would or like a robot would. You usually don't even see the squares unless it thinks you browse the internet like a robot would, and then when you're clicking squares it's mostly just measuring how erratic your mouse movements are. You don't need to click every square or even only click correct squares!! On one hand yes, but OTOH it does feel like getting it completely wrong leads to more rounds than getting it mostly right?
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Dec 19, 2023 23:25
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deep dish peat moss posted:They're not even measuring which squares you click. Most of those captchas these days work by looking through your browsing history and determining if you browse the internet like a human would or like a robot would. You usually don't even see the squares unless it thinks you browse the internet like a robot would, and then when you're clicking squares it's mostly just measuring how erratic your mouse movements are. You don't need to click every square or even only click correct squares!!
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Dec 19, 2023 23:26
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You just need to lay off the robot porn.
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Dec 19, 2023 23:27
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Computer viking posted:On one hand yes, but OTOH it does feel like getting it completely wrong leads to more rounds than getting it mostly right? Maybe?  The problem with the image captchas is that robots have been able to solve them for a long time now, so the actual answers given to the images aren't very useful. But you do probably need to have at least a minimal attempt made at getting them right.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UuvwY6CdLo
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Dec 19, 2023 23:28
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Getting it too right will make you fail too. I find I get the least repeats if I put in the minimum possible effort and try to answer like a computer.
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Dec 19, 2023 23:33
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My holiday assistant has the enthusiasm of a puppy and the social awareness of a fish. Last week we were five minutes into a drive and he bust out "You don't like this job do you?" I decided to be nice and explained, no it's not the job, it's arriving in the office to be sent out on an unscheduled day at a blustery site full of rattleguns and concrete saws and that tomorrow is another, unrelated 'emergency' job. [e: In addition to my previous two days of blustery, rattlegun filled sites]
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Dec 19, 2023 23:36
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McGavin posted:You just need to lay off the robot porn. 
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Dec 20, 2023 01:12
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Forgot that my uncle and I used to work for my cousin at a PC sales and repair shop and my uncle had to threaten legal action because my cousin would demand that no one was allowed to take lunch because the shop was still open during that time and also demanded mandatory late-night overtime consistently but refused to pay overtime pay. Never, ever work for family. They will take advantage of that connection and trust at every possible turn if they're greedy bastards like the rear end in a top hat cousin I had to deal with. Dude would come in and BRAG about how much money he was making while giving us less than minimum wage and throwing us a middle finger. gently caress that guy.
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Catastrophe posted:Forgot that my uncle and I used to work for my cousin at a PC sales and repair shop and my uncle had to threaten legal action because my cousin would demand that no one was allowed to take lunch because the shop was still open during that time and also demanded mandatory late-night overtime consistently but refused to pay overtime pay. Never, ever work for family. They will take advantage of that connection and trust at every possible turn if they're greedy bastards like the rear end in a top hat cousin I had to deal with. Dude would come in and BRAG about how much money he was making while giving us less than minimum wage and throwing us a middle finger. gently caress that guy. I've never worked for family, but does it not go the other way that you can rag on this person that you know well to "Hey, what the gently caress? Pay me more!" when they brag about stuff like that? Or is it a personal dynamic thing where you know Cousin Marv is a brow-beating rear end in a top hat and it's better not to antagonize him?
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Dec 20, 2023 04:11
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I don't think Cousin Marv would be alive in my family.
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Jaguars! posted:My holiday assistant has the enthusiasm of a puppy and the social awareness of a fish. Last week we were five minutes into a drive and he bust out "You don't like this job do you?" I decided to be nice and explained, no it's not the job, it's arriving in the office to be sent out on an unscheduled day at a blustery site full of rattleguns and concrete saws and that tomorrow is another, unrelated 'emergency' job. [e: In addition to my previous two days of blustery, rattlegun filled sites] Yeah, I don't like my job either
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We've been told that our current PDF editing software, eCopy, is EOL and we are NOT to deploy it. We also license Adobe Acrobat to some users, but we've also been told we are out of licenses in our portal and we will NOT be purchasing any more of those under any circumstances. The new PDF editing software we are going to start using, Kofax, isn't ready yet and there is absolutely no ETA at all. So this means anyone who is hired or transferred to a role where they need to edit PDFs is basically poo poo out of luck and won't be able to do that part of their job function for some nebulous amount of time. And this company has about 1200 employees, and is massively expanding and hiring close to a dozen more every month (and losing maybe 5 people a month on average) and I'd say HALF the employees now have and use either eCopy or Adobe Pro. So if the hiring trends match the current state of things, there's going to be a LOT of angry new hires, hiring managers, and corporate trainers. The solution is simple. If security says we can't use the old one, and engineering says the new one isn't ready...just temporarily buy more Adobe licenses! But engineering (who also handles licenses) is also refusing to do that. This company already wastes untold amounts of money in IT, what's another few thousand for some Adobe licenses*? The biggest waste, IMO, is that we don't charge departments for their equipment, which I know plenty of places do. It CAN work fine, if people don't abuse it...but people abuse it. If someone wants a new laptop because their current one is "old" (i.e., maybe two years, still a year left on the extended warranty)? Well, if they or their manager is even remotely important, it gets approved and it's all out of our budget. Or even if they're not important but throw a big enough of a fuss, or maybe get denied their first request but then "accidentally" drop their laptop or spill coffee on it. So we go throw most laptops before they're really done, because we also aren't' going to give out a two year old one to a new employee if we can help it. *We could probably scrape buy on 25 licenses, and at $15/user/month, that's under $5000 for a year, and we don't need a full year (though maybe Adobe requires a years purchase?) But still, that's like two less laptops and docking stations to buy for the year, we can manage around that. Especially if we stop acquiescing to people who piss and moan for a new laptop every year. DrBouvenstein fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Dec 20, 2023 |
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Dec 20, 2023 18:21
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I'm trying to get my company to upgrade to Kofax PowerPDF 5.0. We are still on the same PDF editor from when I joined 8 years ago, Nuance PowerPDF 1.0
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Dec 20, 2023 18:29
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I would simply send a tiff instead of spend $5000.
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Point out to someone that if you're actively hiring this is a pittance compared to what the new hires cost. Personnel costs almost always dwarf equipment/software costs unless you're talking some really crazy poo poo like research supercolliders. Once someone gets blocked from doing their job because of this, do the math on what percentage of their job responsibilities they're unable to perform and what percentage of their annual compensation that equals out to. Make sure to use the actual cost of employment, not their raw pay, because there's a lot of taxes etc. that the company shells out. If your bosses have even an iota of sense it will be very clear that this $15/month in savings is costing them tens of thousands of dollars a year.
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Love to attend an on-site day in a rented venue an hour away on public transportation starting at 8:30am Leaving my house at 730 am when I've been wfh starting my day at 930am forever
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ben shapino posted:Love to attend an on-site day in a rented venue an hour away on public transportation starting at 8:30am mad?
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thathonkey posted:mad? yeah
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DrBouvenstein posted:*We could probably scrape buy on 25 licenses, and at $15/user/month, that's under $5000 for a year, and we don't need a full year (though maybe Adobe requires a years purchase?) But still, that's like two less laptops and docking stations to buy for the year, we can manage around that. Especially if we stop acquiescing to people who piss and moan for a new laptop every year. Strat printing PDFs out, drawing on them in pen, then taking a photo of them with your phone, just as good and even better, totally free!
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Cyrano4747 posted:Point out to someone that if you're actively hiring this is a pittance compared to what the new hires cost. Personnel costs almost always dwarf equipment/software costs unless you're talking some really crazy poo poo like research supercolliders. Once someone gets blocked from doing their job because of this, do the math on what percentage of their job responsibilities they're unable to perform and what percentage of their annual compensation that equals out to. Make sure to use the actual cost of employment, not their raw pay, because there's a lot of taxes etc. that the company shells out. If you prevent employees from doing part of their job, then they miss KPIs and you can deny their merit increases and bonuses.
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Cyrano4747 posted:Point out to someone that if you're actively hiring this is a pittance compared to what the new hires cost. Personnel costs almost always dwarf equipment/software costs unless you're talking some really crazy poo poo like research supercolliders. Once someone gets blocked from doing their job because of this, do the math on what percentage of their job responsibilities they're unable to perform and what percentage of their annual compensation that equals out to. Make sure to use the actual cost of employment, not their raw pay, because there's a lot of taxes etc. that the company shells out. Doesn't matter whether it makes sense if it's not their budget.
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Cyrano4747 posted:If your bosses have even an iota of sense Found the problem
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who needs sense when you have dollars
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lol I got ranked in the top 1% of performers at my 4000+ employee company which in previous years has meant a big fat high 4 digit bonus but since this year has been so lovely it means absolutely nothing Very cool
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There is a mouse living in the store room, in the pile of "spare" overalls, which I know because it fell out of the pile when I moved the pile because we had the new owner come to inspect the place. My boss does not want to do anything about the mouse because it is asleep for the winter. It has eaten a fair amount of the overalls and he remains confident that it will not attempt to eat any of the large amount of important electrical cables next to the pile of spare overalls. The plan for dealing with the mouse is to not move the pile. Also the process for tidying the store room was to take the archives and build a containment wall around part of the store room and then put all of the crap from the floor inside the archive fortress where you can't see it.
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I supposed spending 30c on a mousetrap to save thousands of Dollars of overalls isn't in the budget.
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I think he actually just doesn't want to kill it. Which I understand but it demonstrably is eating things it shouldn't. Also it's more like maybe a couple hundred quid of overalls. Dunno how much the electrical stuff costs but he really hates actively spending money on equipment so if we lose some of it it's going to be annoying. He's very weird about spending money, absolutely utterly hates spending money in specific ways or on specific things, appears utterly undeterred about paying a passable wage or having people not doing much work. Happy to spend however much ordering in uniforms and such but won't buy any extra chargers for the equipment. Extremely strange brain on the man. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 03:42 on Dec 21, 2023 |
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Dec 21, 2023 03:38
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Kill it and never tell him. Less trouble overall 
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Dec 21, 2023 03:40
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Technically a glue trap isn't lethal because the mouse doesn't die until it is starved or drowned.
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peanut posted:Technically a glue trap isn't lethal because the mouse doesn't die until it is starved or drowned. A regular trap isn't lethal because the nouse doesn't die until it runs out of brain signals.
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That's like saying it's technically not murder if someone starved to death in a ditch. The fact that you broke their arms and hands before throwing them in there is unrelated.
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I have never directly killed anymouse
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Lure it into a cage with some peanut butter and put it in his office as a pet
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save him a step and just unplug half the equipemtn and throw away the cables
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