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you could also dissassemble vanguard for heart for a while, as well as satanic.
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 01:15 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 11:17 |
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Super-NintendoUser posted:I play some, I'm pretty new but I"ll play 4 or 5 or what you need. Cool ill send ya a pm
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 01:27 |
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Played three games today and every game someone abandoned at 20min. One game I was shadow shaman and no one went mid despite a viper calling it on the draft. So went mid and did a 2v1 against a duel mid sniper and troll lol. Since they split exp I slammed them and farmed them for a while. ss with a major headstart really slaps. It's hysterical roaming with glimmer cape and getting multiple kills each ult. At 20 their 0/10 pudge dced .
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 01:37 |
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I played a bunch of Dota 2 games tonight and had fun. Khanda feels like an item that works on every hero that has a target ability. I used to main Timbersaw back in 2014 so it’s cool to see him be relevant again.
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 08:42 |
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So in unranked when I play P4/5 I keep running into Clinkz, no matter where I go they pop out of nowhere and kill me, and I end up feeding a bunch of times. What's the counter? Even if I try to stay in ward vision, when I see them coming it's still too late. I suppose the right play is that I should be near my core, and try to disable Clinkz long enough for the core to kill him, but that never seems to happen. A couple times I just built blade mail, and as soon as he appeared I popped it and got a kill that way, but probably there's some anti-Clinkz itemization that I can use. Glimmer is helpful, but just wondering if there's a better idea.
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 13:30 |
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I'd say you're right that the true answer is "the buddy system", but yea sometimes that can be hard. Especially if he gets big enough that he can just merc the both of you You can try to Glimmer Cape and TP out but then he'll just start carrying Dust most likely.
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 15:39 |
Buy a little early armor vs clinks. You want either a fast aeon disk, or ghost scepter and force staff. Try to be near a core. If you are alone, pop your scepter and tp. If you have the aeon disk just start tping when he appears. A good clinkz will buy a nullifier eventually but this should get you through the early game. Late game you need to be as 5
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 15:47 |
At least position 4 Clinkz got effectively murdered by the Solar Crest changes.
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 18:50 |
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I been playing everything but carry for years now, until very recently, and I have been absolutely smashing as carry in my last thirty. I guess I suck so bad at all the other roles but I can last hit like a champion and press my ults on cd to get kills all game? Not sure but I'm hot fire at like 80 percent win rate this train has no brakes
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 20:47 |
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Dota cross training is effective. You know where to play as a carry because you spent so long as a support being furious at your carry for farming in the obvious deathzones, and playing carry will make you a lot better at supporting (e.g. knowing when your carry is Fine and when you should gently caress off and rotate somewhere else).
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 21:36 |
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DNK posted:Dota cross training is effective. You know where to play as a carry because you spent so long as a support being furious at your carry for farming in the obvious deathzones, and playing carry will make you a lot better at supporting (e.g. knowing when your carry is Fine and when you should gently caress off and rotate somewhere else). just had a rage inducing game, I had like one hour lunch to play one game, and we end up with a mid QOP that built two Wands, treads, and a null tali. I slapped them as support Jakiro, but without a real mid (eventually our lvl 5 carry necro went mid to help QoP feed the mid pudge more effectively) but 20 min I was like level 15, but the rest of the team wasn't even 10. It was sad. Unfortunately the QoP DCed, but they finished with in the five minutes so it didn't get disqualified.
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 21:47 |
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Super-NintendoUser posted:just had a rage inducing game, I had like one hour lunch to play one game, and we end up with a mid QOP that built two Wands, treads, and a null tali. I slapped them as support Jakiro, but without a real mid (eventually our lvl 5 carry necro went mid to help QoP feed the mid pudge more effectively) but 20 min I was like level 15, but the rest of the team wasn't even 10. It was sad. Unfortunately the QoP DCed, but they finished with in the five minutes so it didn't get disqualified. I'm still buzzing after our carry CK rage dc'd absolutely convinced we'd lose within 5 minutes. But 20 minutes later we won the 4v5 with his CK rarely leaving the fountain. I'll admit I contributed to him being salty by calling him out. Wasted an ageis I was begging for them to take before high ground. Why take t3/racks mid with 2 of them down when there's t2 bot with no vision?
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# ? Dec 19, 2023 22:28 |
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Also DNK do you still play anymore? I dont see you around. I was (techies only) chopstix but now am Moon-watcher
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# ? Dec 20, 2023 01:03 |
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Yeah I play sometimes. Playtime goes in fits and spurts, usually one or the other.
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# ? Dec 20, 2023 01:28 |
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Sitting at an airport waiting for a flight. Should I queue up a game on the airport wifi?
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# ? Dec 20, 2023 01:43 |
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Yes man dota isn't bad with like 250 ping
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# ? Dec 20, 2023 03:31 |
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I'm 7-1 this patch. Just build solar crest into shivas every game lol.
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# ? Dec 20, 2023 04:45 |
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I also feel like I am whipping rear end and having fun in this patch. Idk if it's good but I did the burn dps talents on abaddon with radiance+shivas and anyone I was able to get on top of would just melt. It's been a really long time since I've been feeling like there's a lot of possibilities for every hero I like playing.
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# ? Dec 20, 2023 07:22 |
Having fun so far
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# ? Dec 20, 2023 07:41 |
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What do you guys think of the new Neutral Items? Tier 1 - Safety Bubble - I like this one. Anything that lets me tank up for free as a support is A-OK in my book. Royal Jelly - haven't actually selected this yet, seems strong though. Tier 2 - Light Collector - Seems terrible? Maybe situationally useful against Monkey King or Treant. I mean 6HP/s isn't bad, but for T2 I want real stats man. Whisper of the Dread - OK, I've grabbed this once or twice in my Necro games just to help get that Scythe execute. But I'm generally not a fan of anything that hinders Vision. Tier 3 - Doubloon - Again, I want stats on my neutral items typically. Not very interesting item and really low on my priority list for a neutral. Nemesis Curse - Haven't picked this yet, seems like a "win more" item where you're already stomping as a ranged hero Craggy Coat - seems pretty good, but again I haven't played much like 2 or 3 where I really want/need armor Tier 4 - Ancient Guardian - Seems fine Aviana's Feather - Evasion and Movespeed are nice. Flying movement under 30% HP seems... not gimmicky, but just hard to use Rattlecage - Seems fine Tier 5 - Unwavering Condition - lol. I don't even know what to say otherwise. Magic Lamp - seems OK for supports I guess? Almost kinda like a free / second Aeon Disk In a lot of my games I feel like there are a lot of T2 / T3's that I just do not even care about. Philo Stone, Grove Bow, Orb of Destruction, Bullwhip, Specialist's Array... so many good T2's and then I see both of the new ones in my list and I just get sad.
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# ? Dec 20, 2023 14:34 |
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Doubloon on Medusa is very funny
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# ? Dec 20, 2023 14:57 |
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Whisper of Dread is insane imo, use your allies or wards for vision, flat +10% spellpower boost is very good
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# ? Dec 20, 2023 15:32 |
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In theory I'd agree but my allies often seem to have dumb positioning
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# ? Dec 20, 2023 15:41 |
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IcePhoenix posted:Doubloon on Medusa is very funny
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# ? Dec 20, 2023 16:07 |
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Master_Odin posted:I feel like Unwavering Condition also only really makes sense on Medusa as you don't really care about HP there. Enchantress too lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bVAygAnGL8
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# ? Dec 20, 2023 16:20 |
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> Storm Spirit, CM, Lich, Nyx, Rubick. lol CM should've grabbed the +200AS talent and a BKB and gently caress that deer up
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# ? Dec 20, 2023 17:01 |
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Ancient Guardian is fun because the extra +50 damage is when you're near any ancient, so it can be a great pick for highground holds or closing out a game.
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# ? Dec 20, 2023 18:26 |
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Sab669 posted:> Storm Spirit, CM, Lich, Nyx, Rubick. Especially in turbo. Some people just don't get it. I feel like they're going to have to do something in a patch to change how Medusa interacts with Eternal Shroud. Just has another game where I just stood my ground against the entire enemy team and they couldn't do anything to me. They even had some phys but any damage they were doing to me was counteracted by just standing in all the magic damage. Jakiro's ult basically becomes a ground healing effect at 25. Maybe this isn't a problem in non-turbo games but it feels like it would be, just a matter of figuring out the timing on when to buy it since it doesn't give you any damage or useful stats (outside the raw magic resist from cloak) during the buildup.
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# ? Dec 20, 2023 18:41 |
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I wouldn't neccesaarily judge anything based on turbos
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# ? Dec 20, 2023 19:01 |
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flashman posted:I wouldn't neccesaarily judge anything based on turbos https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxsIW76tv4Qv3BKTVsUB5zYSavCL7Zx7ue?si=NLULCyIXrQwpy9pa
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# ? Dec 20, 2023 20:51 |
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I understand the interaction but there's not too much evidence in normal dota if that's going to translate to wins or not As you said it had a dog build up, and even when finished just makes you tankier against magic, so you still are not a threat that needs to be dealt with in team fights. Medusa is already pretty slow burning at the 2 position and I can see the game getting away from you with a 3300 spend there. It's obviously strong to have but really just showing the power at 30 or getting it in turbos is meaningless to actual gameplay flashman fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Dec 20, 2023 |
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It's also just pretty early on in the patch overall. There's a bunch of interactions with Khanda that seem a bit wild right now but I've no idea how many of them are going to be remotely achievable in balanced games. I fought a Sniper that tried the Khanda+Divine build but he never bought Aghs or got a second Divine so it was too slow and not lethal enough to stop us from crushing his base.
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# ? Dec 20, 2023 21:11 |
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I saw some comedy clips of the Sniper Khanda Divine stuff, but yea I think it was all Turbo mode. As you said it seems way too slow to do in Real DOTA () unless the rest of your team is winning so hard 4v5 already, in which case it's kind of a moot build
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# ? Dec 20, 2023 21:20 |
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flashman posted:I understand the interaction but there's not too much evidence in normal dota if that's going to translate to wins or not Yeah, it might just be a win harder item. Although the power spike is technically at 25 As far as the usefulness only being against specific lineups goes, in normal games I assume you'd only be picking her against those kinds of lineups. Turbo is pure blind pick and I've had a couple bad losses because whoops the enemy team has an AM or a PL and now my hero is just a creep that takes them a little longer to kill.
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# ? Dec 20, 2023 21:35 |
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Dusa does in fact seem like a problem
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# ? Dec 20, 2023 23:57 |
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Dusa's always a problem, hero's a buzzkill
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# ? Dec 21, 2023 07:00 |
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I am aware Solar Crest is hideously good as an item I'm general this patch but how is Solar Crest Bristleback?
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# ? Dec 21, 2023 07:49 |
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Even down in Archon 1 everyone is building a shitton of Solar Crests now.
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# ? Dec 21, 2023 09:37 |
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Having to put 1 point into Divine Favor in order to bring my creeps with me when I TP loving sucks rear end, goddamn
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# ? Dec 21, 2023 17:45 |
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TOOT BOOT posted:Even down in Archon 1 everyone is building a shitton of Solar Crests now. I had someone complaining in a game about how Solar Crest sucks now and I just let it happen because he was on the other team.
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# ? Dec 21, 2023 18:06 |