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In an old job I had a request around 2014 for a Win 98 laptop to run the Honeywell software to control the chillers and boilers for a skyscraper. The environmental systems were from 1975.
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Dick Trauma posted:In an old job I had a request around 2014 for a Win 98 laptop to run the Honeywell software to control the chillers and boilers for a skyscraper. The environmental systems were from 1975. It's even worse in anything related to medical. When the medical device is approved, the list of materials for that machines is noted when built and the company that produced it needs to buy out as much of it as possible. Why? Because only those specific parts are allowed for a replacement part. Down to the brand, model, version, architecture, and I think even batch for some cases. If the hard drive breaks you cannot just replace it with an SDD with the same size. It needs to be replaced specifically with a Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 750 Gigabyte, with firmware 3.AAC.
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Some of the serial stuff I did 20 years ago in the Army are still standard and if I explain more than that, depending on the platorm I'm getting a warthunder wiki entry. I say that as someone that has jury rigged a certain US based company helicopter camerapod with laser and GPS designation, including tracking and FHD/UHD imaging. If you like football in Aus, and watched 12 years ago - it was my drunken master soldering that built the system that housed the aerial platform for airships and helicopters...
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At my work we keep one old XP computer, in the form of a virtual PC (from a backup when the physical one gave up the ghost) because it has some ancient CAM software on it and they don't want to invest in the new version. Of course it'll stop working forever once the physical dongle gives up.
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Our immunofluorescence microscope was, until earlier this year, driven by Zeiss Axiovision - which was deprecated shortly after we bought it in 2010. I just left it alone on its 32-bit Windows Vista installation - there was a 64-bit beta that was way faster at stitching mosaics, but it didn't support half the features. I tentatively replaced it this fall with a 2012 Dell tower that was the newest hardware I could find in our junk pile that still had PCI for the one blessed FireWire card to run the stupidly expensive Zeiss cameras. We're currently running modern Zeiss software (Zen Blue) on Windows 10, and while it doesn't officially support the cameras, there are some truly ugly workarounds for that. One of the exciting things in January will be to see if we get the ~ $10k we have applied for to get a modern USB-C imaging camera and an actual license for Zen, instead of borrowing a test license from a technician like we do today. (I'm usually a bioinformatics/IT guy, but I have somehow also become the Microscope Whisperer. It's kind of neat.)
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Dec 23, 2023 18:07
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Computer viking posted:I just left it alone on its 32-bit Windows Vista installation - there was a 64-bit beta that was way We still got a 16bit system for ONE single program that does especially MAGIC low level things and stuff.
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Humphreys posted:We still got a 16bit system for ONE single program that does especially MAGIC low level things and stuff. We have thankfully retired all of those, though who knows what lives embedded in the different instruments. (At least the IonTorrent Sequencers seem to be running a modern RHEL, and the touch screen controls are a fullscreen app on top of LXDE, which is perfectly reasonable.)
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Dec 23, 2023 18:18
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This is fun. It's a new video, but impressively staged to be period accurate. And filmed on a Beta cam. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF3dhXF1yCY
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Dec 24, 2023 09:45
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^ right down to the incessant hiss-buzz in the background!  Zoroger! Xangelix! Wendos!
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synth people still look like that
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LifeSunDeath posted:synth people still look like that   Confirmed.
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Trabant posted:
Man, Kratwerk looked weird in the early days.
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Trabant posted:^ right down to the incessant hiss-buzz in the background! Mikko 3:16 says I just nokia'd your rear end?
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Rappaport posted:Mikko 3:16 says I just nokia'd your rear end?  
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EVIL Gibson posted:
Sam revels in looking like that and he is a legit awesome dude.
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The creepiest thing in that generally creepy image is how squashed the floppy drive is. 
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CaptainSarcastic posted:The creepiest thing in that generally creepy image is how squashed the floppy drive is. Is there a floppy drive in that picture? If it's a model 1 it just has a tape drive; the thing on the side of the monitor is just a badge. (He says, having never knowingly been in the same building as a TRS-80)
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Computer viking posted:Is there a floppy drive in that picture? If it's a model 1 it just has a tape drive; the thing on the side of the monitor is just a badge. how has a computer viking never been in the same building as a trs-80 what are you, a weak c++ drinker
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The story I've heard is that the Model I monitor (the computer's in the keyboard, C64 style) was just a hastily-modified black-and-white TV and that area to the right of the screen is where the tuner would have gone on the original product. The whole thing is incredibly janky, with a ribbon cable for the video signal. To get a floppy drive on the thing I think you had to buy an expansion chassis and take the CPU bus over to it with a ribbon cable, spewing EMI everywhere. It's no wonder that the Apple II was the only first-gen home computer to (barely) survive the 80s.
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Arivia posted:how has a computer viking never been in the same building as a trs-80 I'm Norwegian, they didn't exactly dominate the market over here. My first computer was a decade-old ABC-80, which incidentally was exactly the same "computer in keyboard, b/w TV with the controls removed" layout. Seems to have been the better hardware design, though: The TV was connected with a solid plug, and the extension bus was a decent design inherited from their industrial automation systems. Computer viking has a new favorite as of 22:11 on Dec 27, 2023 |
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Computer viking posted:I'm Norwegian, they didn't exactly dominate the market over here. My first computer was a decade-old ABC-80, which incidentally was exactly the same "computer in keyboard, b/w TV with the controls removed" layout. Our school had a room filled with Tiki-100s, which eventually were spread among the classrooms when the school bought 386s 
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evobatman posted:Our school had a room filled with Tiki-100s, which eventually were spread among the classrooms when the school bought 386s Oh man! I think I remember seeing one of these in like 2002 sitting in a distant relative's house, always wondered what it actually was.
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That looks like simultaneously the best and worst keyboard ever
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evobatman posted:Our school had a room filled with Tiki-100s, which eventually were spread among the classrooms when the school bought 386s We had a few of those sitting around, but they were all in the small meeting rooms - I think the only kids that actually used them were the special needs kids who had some of their lessons in those rooms. I'm probably slightly too young, I started school in 1990.
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One of the few things I remember from elementary in the 80s was playing edutainment on the Tiki 100 and that one kid in class who brought a roll of toilet paper to school with his whole name handwritten in binary on it. I bet he went on to make megabucks in the computer industry.
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r u ready to WALK posted:One of the few things I remember from elementary in the 80s was playing edutainment on the Tiki 100 and that one kid in class who brought a roll of toilet paper to school with his whole name handwritten in binary on it. I may or may not have hand-converted phone numbers to binary and turned them into square bitmaps on graph paper when bored in secondary school - but I'm not making that much money. (My fault for working for OUS, I guess.)
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I kinda wanna try this
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Lady Radia posted:what. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewmXizBqjl0
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Humphreys posted:I kinda wanna try this Attempts have been made: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PW0RFSIW5Y
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Wait... they actually went to all this effort, and got all these creative types involved, in order to produce an image that's indistinguishable from a Bryce render done by an amateur in 1997. Lady Radia posted:what.
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Digital photography is a tech relic
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Humphreys posted:I kinda wanna try this I have a Vietnamese record made during the Vietnam war. There was a burgeoning cottage industry at the time where little record shops would spring up to serve the GI’s. They sold reproduced American music. Given how hard it was to get American albums in Vietnam during the war, the albums are often in the form of “<popular American artist> Live From Tokyo” or something similar. Those being the easiest records to obtain during the war. My understanding is they would make wax or resin pressings of the album as molds and then cast new records from them. The one I have is delightfully janky. You can still see the imprints of the engraved lettering from the original album in the center of my copy but it’s just a bit too faint to read, in true copy-of-a-copy form. Also the inner jacket is literally just the local Vietnam newspaper cut to an appropriate size. Kind of a cool little piece of history and example of super early media piracy.
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How about pirating music on old pictures of people's skeletons?Gizmodo posted:Exposed, developed, and then discarded, X-ray film sheets were consistent with the target. The celluloid plates coated with light-sensitive emulsion on one or both sides were thick and durable enough to scratch grooves of dance music, popular songs, speeches by politicians, and pretty much everything that came from radio speakers. Then the thick radiographs were cut into discs of 23-25 centimeters in diameter, sometimes with uneven brims, and given labels and holes in the middle. These 78 rpm, normal furrow (i.e. non-LP) discs contain about two to three minutes of voice or music recordings, says Hajdú.  Of course x-ray film as an imaging technique is also a tech relic these days  , but I'm sure there's fights over image fidelity among radiographers of all generations.
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Rappaport posted:How about pirating music on old pictures of people's skeletons? Those are something I would really love to own at few examples of to frame and hang in my media room.
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I have some perfectly good x-rays but no way to turn them into records and most hospitals or whatever will only give you a digital copy these days. I'm not even sure how the hell I got the ones I have.
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Rappaport posted:How about pirating music on old pictures of people's skeletons? long live samizdat
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Desert Bus posted:I have some perfectly good x-rays but no way to turn them into records and most hospitals or whatever will only give you a digital copy these days. I'm not even sure how the hell I got the ones I have. I was last year top bidder on an xray 'printer' of sorts and my idea was to then do goofy fake xrays with bootlegs records.... I've thought about it THAT much.
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