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BOOTY-ADE posted:Yup, plus quite a few have different sponsorships so I suspect ads really don't bring much revenue for the creator, more for the platform than anything. YT, like any other large business, is using stupid manipulation tactics ("YoU'rE HuRtInG CrEaToRs") & they're failing because people see through the bullshit. Not to mention that people get demonitized all the time. Some computer game guy mentioned in a video that there's a quota for the word "gently caress" beyond which you don't get ad revenue. Also pretty much anything that does media criticism (film reviews, game reviews, etc) is liable to get copyright claimed even if it's fair use. The tl;dr as I understand it is that for huge swaths of the YT ecosystem the ad revenue is way too unreliable to base an income off of. Hence everyone and their dog selling mouse pads and getting a sponsorship from lovely wallets and ball shaving companies.
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Cyrano4747 posted:Not to mention that people get demonitized all the time. Some computer game guy mentioned in a video that there's a quota for the word "gently caress" beyond which you don't get ad revenue. Also pretty much anything that does media criticism (film reviews, game reviews, etc) is liable to get copyright claimed even if it's fair use. the smartest way to treat YT money is like icing on top of an income from elsewhere (sponsor, merch, side business, day job, Patreon, etc) I legitimately don't know how the people in the 50k-1 million subscriber range who don't have alternate income streams do it, beyond 'my spouse/partner/family member is the primary breadwinner'
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trilobite terror posted:the smartest way to treat YT money is like icing on top of an income from elsewhere (sponsor, merch, side business, day job, Patreon, etc) I suspect there's a lot of people who already have their income taken care of from other sources, yes. One of the really big mega YT guys (mr beast I think?) was basically a rich fail-son who's dad basically just financed is YT hobby until he eventually snowballed enough to be legitimately rich on his own.
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Mr Beast I think was already decently off as a marketing guy, and he's one of a bunch of guys who went to Youtube with a marketing background and played the algorithm like a fiddle.
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Cyrano4747 posted:I suspect there's a lot of people who already have their income taken care of from other sources, yes. One of the really big mega YT guys (mr beast I think?) was basically a rich fail-son who's dad basically just financed is YT hobby until he eventually snowballed enough to be legitimately rich on his own. I'd wager there's a few that got lucky with early days crypto. I sure wish I'd left my PC mining buttcoins during the day back when I was at university and not paying for electricity.
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it's also crazy how north america-centric the (american) internet is, as much as people like to talk about how it's "democratizing" and "connecting" the world this cool thing just rolled out? oh it's only available to north american users - and if you're lucky, uk+ger+spain+france i remember when twitch started and i had my 10/1 upload that wasn't going to stream jack. it's a bummer how much privilege still decides how you make it on the internet, and that's before getting into gender and race
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njsykora posted:Mr Beast I think was already decently off as a marketing guy, and he's one of a bunch of guys who went to Youtube with a marketing background and played the algorithm like a fiddle. nah mr beast just started churning out youtube slop when he was 14 years old and never stopped until he found a formula that blew up if you scroll back through his channel you can see him iterating through different forms of Content for 11 years until something stuck
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gradenko_2000 posted:I do sort of wonder how much of youtube is effectively invisible to us because it's content being made in another language. Is there a French Mr Beast? an Asian GamersNexus? LatinoTechTips? there was that whole feud where pewdiepie fought (and lost) to hold the #1 most subscribed channel position against an indian channel that was basically unknown to english speaking viewers before then
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repiv posted:billion dollar idea: use AI to insert product placement into existing videos I thought of this cursed tech a little while ago but it turns out studios already beat me to it https://www.businessinsider.com/new-ads-products-insert-old-movies-content-mirriad-2021-5
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gradenko_2000 posted:I do sort of wonder how much of youtube is effectively invisible to us because it's content being made in another language. Is there a French Mr Beast? an Asian GamersNexus? LatinoTechTips? kliras fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Dec 22, 2023 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:I do sort of wonder how much of youtube is effectively invisible to us because it's content being made in another language. Is there a French Mr Beast? an Asian GamersNexus? LatinoTechTips? Hbomberguy mentioned before that there was a Brazilian Youtuber who basically remade his videos in Portuguese, which is why he specifically gets his videos subtitled in Portuguese now. Also Russian because the Russian Youtube userbase is huge in itself.
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kliras posted:i remember when twitch started and i had my 10/1 upload that wasn't going to stream jack. it's a bummer how much privilege still decides how you make it on the internet, and that's before getting into gender and race I think that twitch launched when i had just converted my home Telecom Italia VDSL2 landline from 100/10 to 200/20. Streaming to twitch had a massive latency for europe AV ingest, so any interaction felt like doing a live commentary on satellite tv.
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gradenko_2000 posted:I do sort of wonder how much of youtube is effectively invisible to us because it's content being made in another language. Is there a French Mr Beast? an Asian GamersNexus? LatinoTechTips? Yes, and there’s also a huge market for outright content rippers and also script plagiarists to take stuff that’s moderately or very successful in the US internet and market it toward those groups as well. Like there’s guys making tens of thousands of dollars a month by editing two American tiktokers clips’ together and then slapping a bunch of Portuguese text and Brazil-specific SEO tags on the result over and over again
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njsykora posted:Hbomberguy mentioned before that there was a Brazilian Youtuber who basically remade his videos in Portuguese, which is why he specifically gets his videos subtitled in Portuguese now. Also Russian because the Russian Youtube userbase is huge in itself. There was a lady in Brazil a few years back who basically just copy/pasted entire video scripts from MomsBasement Fansubs/dubs are arguably very different, and historically the only good way to get certain English YouTubers’ work in other languages
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kliras posted:it's also crazy how north america-centric the (american) internet is, as much as people like to talk about how it's "democratizing" and "connecting" the world You also see that stuff with some smaller authors whose books are ( or were) exclusive to Kindle Unlimited , which means it's completely unavailable to a large part of the world outside of piracy. At least with normal physical books you can just import them.
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gradenko_2000 posted:I do sort of wonder how much of youtube is effectively invisible to us because it's content being made in another language. Is there a French Mr Beast? an Asian GamersNexus? LatinoTechTips? IDK about YouTube specifically, but some of the biggest twitch streamers are Spanish. Some of them are also seemingly the worst people on twitch, which if you are at all familiar with twitch streamers sounds like an impossible bar to clear, but they arguably do it. The biggest one seems like a pretty cool dude, tho. If you speak English well, you are probably best off producing content for the English speaking market. There are tons of people out there with maybe 10 or 50k subscribers who are making a fantastic living for where they are.
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gradenko_2000 posted:I do sort of wonder how much of youtube is effectively invisible to us because it's content being made in another language. Is there a French Mr Beast? an Asian GamersNexus? LatinoTechTips? I found out the other day that there’s a huge Spanish Doom/boomer shooter YouTube I’ve never heard of. Someone in the Spanish community has spun up their own yearly Doom awards to accommodate Spanish users and because they seem to have an axe to grind with the long-time community Cacowards, and this “pixel2pixel” guy was their winner for top creator (in the social media sense.)
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gradenko_2000 posted:LatinoTechTips? would absolutely watch this
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Google makes more than enough money of scrubbing my data/emails (and everyone elses) and selling them to the highest bidder and using for whatever purpose they see fit. I sleep just fine at night using a blocker on youtube priznat posted:One time I cut a tag off a mattress and then I changed my identity so the law would never catch me.
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I turned off adblock for like 10 minutes and got like 3 IDF ads in a row. No thank you.
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Google should charge more for all of my data when they sell it, if they need more money. Guilting me into watching ads ain’t gonna work.
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I just get ads for a gacha game that I'm pretty sure is a scam (more so than usual)
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I turned adblock off once out of curiosity, got an advert of a tiny man being stamped on by a giant woman, and reaffirmed my belief to never do that again.
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Nettle Soup posted:I turned adblock off once out of curiosity, got an advert of a tiny man being stamped on by a giant woman, and reaffirmed my belief to never do that again. why do you hate queer people steven universe fans
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priznat posted:One time I cut a tag off a mattress and then I changed my identity so the law would never catch me. https://youtu.be/1dWjKkF0Zi4?si=F4VQxx1vCQoHhedV
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Wild EEPROM posted:If you get served an ad you should have to watch it in its entirety otherwise its stealing from the creator’s family’s mouth directly the skip ad button is youtube testing you to make sure you're morally pure and do not skip the ad
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People are really flirting with the line here talking about their favorite ways to pirate their YouTube content.
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im selling VCD camrips of linus videos, any takers
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repiv posted:im selling VCD camrips of linus videos, any takers You fool, that’s how you end up with a video that has a photoshopped thumbnail of Linus looking baffled while holding up a CD with a bright red Jolly Roger clipart on it, and a title of “I watched my pirated videos AND PAID MONEY FOR IT?!”
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Sudden Loud Noise posted:People are really flirting with the line here talking about their favorite ways to pirate their YouTube content. I can’t hear you over this insanely loud unauthorized rebroadcast of a football game that I’m playing without the express written permission of the NFL
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how are internet ads real just close your eyes lmao
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i have already mostly migrated to Bilibili for video consumption since i know chinese better recs, zero in-video ads even without paid subscription, better content i barely even use youtube now lol
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repiv posted:im selling VCD camrips of linus videos, any takers The unedited post hack CCTV clip...
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Sudden Loud Noise posted:People are really flirting with the line here talking about their favorite ways to pirate their YouTube content. The line of what? Are you gonna file reports like “poster uses an adblocker”
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Arivia posted:The line of what? Are you gonna file reports like “poster uses an adblocker” Bans incoming 
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