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CelticPredator posted:Which one did they get? this guy https://www.amazon.com/Bandai-Movie...124&sr=8-1&th=1
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Gotcha. That’s cool. Yeah if they found the minus one by some chance they would be flabbergasted lol
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 01:07 |
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Went to see it again at Alamo, much better audience behavior and I got to pick a good seat and chow down on a nice healthy Cobb salad with a comfy seat too (There was one old geezer who started snoring but Alamo staff woke him up, he elected to finish nap in lobby) Also got to take notice of stuff I missed in first watch, like black mark on Noriko's neck, details on the Local Fighter Shinden, map fight (some ships weren't sunk!), toy that Akiko was holding made out of felt as many toys were at the time, others.. Interesting that in both Minus One and Monarch, the US chose to nuke Godzilla at Bikini Atoll. Different stuff goes on after the blast, though.. in MLOM it sounds like Godzilla just.. shook it off and went about his business? But in -1 it's responsible for making him notably bigger and meaner, and he decides to go after Japan as a result.. Or was Bikini an accident in the -1 universe? It's not made clear unless that's something else I missed..
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 02:13 |
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I think it was an accident.
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 02:20 |
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The bombing was on purpose but presumably the Americans didn’t know there was a Godzilla there, since it was only known about by the locals.
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 02:22 |
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Yeah between Godzilla being way more aquatic and his relatively small size pre-nuke he was probably just swimming nearby when he got hit and not noticed
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 02:23 |
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oppenheimer: remember when I came to you with those calculations? we thought if we nuked a lizard it would become big. big and really cool. einstein: I remember well oppenheimer: I think we did einstein: yea no poo poo.
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 02:46 |
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Gripweed posted:The bombing was on purpose but presumably the Americans didn’t know there was a Godzilla there, since it was only known about by the locals. I mean yeah Operation Crossroads was absolutely on purpose but that purpose was nuclear testing not "oh poo poo there's a dinosaur on this tiny island drop an Atom Bomb on it."
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 02:48 |
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this was my first japanese godzilla movie since god, i think godzilla 2000 and godzilla 84 before that. i enjoyed this a lot. probably my favorite movie this year. i pogged irl when they succeeded in tricking godzilla into swallowing the sea mine only to regenerate immediately after. also the Takao was a really fun easter egg. i also loved the minesweeper crew that koichi worked with, i thought they were all fleshed out really well instead of being typical one dimensional character fodder. i thought dr. noda and captain hota especially shone too. it sounds like i should check out shin godzilla next?
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 03:11 |
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The core Godzilla kind of needs to be an accident, so for Minus One, whoops, there was at least one of an an angry giant amphibious species that survived that meteor gimmick 65 million years ago and it got caught in the test of the big kill device we made, but the device did the opposite of killing it
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STONE COLD 64 posted:this was my first japanese godzilla movie since god, i think godzilla 2000 and godzilla 84 before that. i enjoyed this a lot. probably my favorite movie this year. i pogged irl when they succeeded in tricking godzilla into swallowing the sea mine only to regenerate immediately after. also the Takao was a really fun easter egg. i also loved the minesweeper crew that koichi worked with, i thought they were all fleshed out really well instead of being typical one dimensional character fodder. i thought dr. noda and captain hota especially shone too. it sounds like i should check out shin godzilla next? yes, definitely
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 03:46 |
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Did a consecutive watch of my three favourite Heisei era ones this week, Return..., Biollante and Destoroyah, it's amusing to me I inadvertently wound up with a fairly decent "Super X" trilogy. Took 'em three goes to get it right, but they got there in the end I guess. A Super X that doesn't look like poo poo, isn't entirely useless and doesn't get exploded. I'm incredibly happy Biollante and Destoroyah sit in their own little special place, never revisited, not even in Final Wars. They're all hosed up and weird and I love 'em.
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 04:28 |
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It's kinda fun that it seems like Godzilla fans pretty much universally think the three best Godzilla movies are original, Shin, and Minus One, but it's incredibly unlikely you'd get two people to agree on what the fourth and fifth best Godzilla movies are.
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 05:02 |
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Gripweed posted:It's kinda fun that it seems like Godzilla fans pretty much universally think the three best Godzilla movies are original, Shin, and Minus One, but it's incredibly unlikely you'd get two people to agree on what the fourth and fifth best Godzilla movies are. Destoroyah ...maybe VS Mothra?
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Desumaytah posted:The core Godzilla kind of needs to be an accident, so for Minus One, whoops, there was at least one of an an angry giant amphibious species that survived that meteor gimmick 65 million years ago and it got caught in the test of the big kill device we made, but the device did the opposite of killing it There was an old Japanese magazine about Godzilla that theorized that there were multiple Godzillas (think Godzillasaurus before that existed) that was amphibious and living their lives when the Bikini Atoll bombs happened and created Godzilla Proper)- it claimed that G's horrific skin was actually scar tissue and the atomic breath was also a result. Remember that Bikini Atoll was populated in real life and that America, in its hubris and colonial might, moved everyone that lived there to other places to destroy it. Just remember that America is a horrific colonizer empire and are the bad guys. And Japan was also an imperialist horror show and were ALSO bad guys.
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 05:30 |
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Watched Kong: Skull Island in my quest to catch up on the monsterverse. Totally kick rear end, no notes. It rules.
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Detective No. 27 posted:A few years back when I worked in an office full of court reporters, I had my desk decked out full of Godzillas and one of the court reporters who was well into her 70s asked me what they were. She just plum never heard of Godzilla. I just couldn't fathom. I put a Creature From The Black Lagoon figure on my desk and my boss (in her 50s) had no idea what it was. It completely blew my mind.
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Vinylshadow posted:Destoroyah Destoroyah's connection to the original is pretty palpable, I'd personally chuck in Return of... for the same reason, but that's just me. I know it's very flawed in terms of shaky visual design that feels WORSE than 54 (absolutely useless looking Godzilla, both the suit and the wobbly animatronics) and funky pacing that regularly drags upon stuff like the non-tension soviet missile. At the same time, it's very comfy and I really love the world building of everybody IMMEDIATELY taking the threat seriously and them having prepared countermeasures. Even if said countermeasure is... A bit poo poo, let's be honest.
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Henker posted:I put a Creature From The Black Lagoon figure on my desk and my boss (in her 50s) had no idea what it was. It completely blew my mind. it's the fish guy from the shape of water
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holefoods posted:Watched Kong: Skull Island in my quest to catch up on the monsterverse. Totally kick rear end, no notes. It rules. it fuckin rocks
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Gripweed posted:It's kinda fun that it seems like Godzilla fans pretty much universally think the three best Godzilla movies are original, Shin, and Minus One, but it's incredibly unlikely you'd get two people to agree on what the fourth and fifth best Godzilla movies are. G'14 is probably the best modern Hollywood treatment we could have hoped for and is a really drat good film in its own right, despite some built-in studio mandated flaws. (I enjoy KOTM more because of big budget Ghidorah, Mothra, and Rodan and it having the single best score of any giant monster movie ever. I can't pretend it's a better film, though.)
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Binary Badger posted:Interesting that in both Minus One and Monarch, the US chose to nuke Godzilla at Bikini Atoll. I'm not entirely sure if it's deliberate or a quirk of the CGI being flexible for what fits the scene but Legendary Godzilla is twice as big post-Bikini Atoll blast as pre.
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Gripweed posted:It's kinda fun that it seems like Godzilla fans pretty much universally think the three best Godzilla movies are original, Shin, and Minus One, but it's incredibly unlikely you'd get two people to agree on what the fourth and fifth best Godzilla movies are. Terror of Mechagodzilla and Godzilla vs Hedorah.
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Arc Hammer posted:Terror of Mechagodzilla and Godzilla vs Hedorah. Close! It's actually Godzilla vs Hedorah and Final Wars
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 16:38 |
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I liked Minus One quite a bit but I don’t think it cracks my top 5 tbh. Shin might though.
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Desumaytah posted:G'14 is probably the best modern Hollywood treatment we could have hoped for and is a really drat good film in its own right, despite some built-in studio mandated flaws. I didn't much like KOTM, but holy poo poo, was it worth it for hearing Bear McCreary doing such a hardcore, massive version of Ifukube's main theme. His new Rodan theme absolutely SLAYS too.
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 18:15 |
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Desumaytah posted:I initially wasn't keen on the Minus One design because of the short snout and large eyes. I thought it made him look too cute. I thought he looked like Godzilla as a Disney princess' animal sidekick. I was wrong. Those large eyes are explicitly only angry eyes. That short snout is still the size of a house. This is the hubris of man. the eyes as its chasing the boats are great. What I think its good about it is that its very angry on this big monster, but it has that light of intelligence on it.
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 18:17 |
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Godzilla Show still isn’t good, but it finally gets to its Surf Dracula moment in Episode 7 of 10. I don’t know whether it’s worth preserving an actually-well-executed Shyamalan twist, or if ‘spoiling’ it outright might make the rest of the show slightly less boring, so use your discretion: all the flashbacks to the lighthearted 1950s love triangle are actually the villain’s backstory, and action hero Kurt Russell is some kinda anti-kaiju fascist plotting to Destroy All Monsters. So that’s what the story is actually about! Yay! Of course the problem here is, as someone mentioned earlier, that the Monarch organization are made into just a bunch of well-meaning shitlibs by comparison (while they further scrub their CIA origins from the franchise canon).
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 19:32 |
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Desumaytah posted:My friend, there is a Columbia Pictures movie from 1957 called "The Giant Claw." It's 72 minutes long. If you haven't heard of it, please go into it blind. Finally got to this, top notch stupid poo poo
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FuzzySlippers posted:Yeah, that's part of what I really dig about Shin Godzilla. Everyone is thrown into this absurd situation that they all take absolutely seriously. There's a younger go-getter bureaucrat who is the main character, but it's still the entire system that works together. Kinda feels the opposite of the US Godzilla movies I've watched where it's so intensly focused on the hero and their journey to do whatever heroic thing. Yeah this is what I responded to with Shin and what I responded to with Minus One. This general theme of community collaborating despite great losses to win. It's a mature way to tell a story that rings truer. These two, and the 2014 amd 90s US Godzilla movies which I both didn't like are the only Godzilla movies I've seen completely. I'm gonna see the original Godzilla next but are there any others that have that kinda maturity going on? Not really interested in anything campy.
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# ? Dec 24, 2023 06:29 |
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Godzilla vs Biollante
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# ? Dec 24, 2023 06:50 |
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I watched Godzilla Minus One finally and found it excellent. Thinking about how it relates Godzilla to the naval mines by having the plan to
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Shageletic posted:Yeah this is what I responded to with Shin and what I responded to with Minus One. This general theme of community collaborating despite great losses to win. It's a mature way to tell a story that rings truer. Godzilla Vs. Destoroyah is a good one. It does have the silly thing so many movies do of snatching from better sources, in this case, Aliens, but at the same time, lot of weight to it. Edit; maybe do as I did and go Return of Godzilla/Biollante/Destoroyah. They all have campy touches, but for the most part, decent stories, largely taken seriously. Except for the loving comic relief tramp in Return... whose response to coming face to face with a giant city stomping lizard is to heckle it like a prick. And all three versions of the Super X. MuddyFunster fucked around with this message at 08:04 on Dec 24, 2023 |
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https://twitter.com/pyrameadhead/status/1738642648200614046?t=SlXpvC9BIV_1AW1yy-9q2w&s=19
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Going back thru the thread and quoting this to find later.site posted:the thing you need to know going in is that besides these 3, all of them are various levels of silly, and i don't just mean the effects. the plots get absolutely bonkers pretty quick. that said MuddyFunster posted:Godzilla Vs. Destoroyah is a good one. It does have the silly thing so many movies do of snatching from better sources, in this case, Aliens, but at the same time, lot of weight to it. Cheers! Thanks for this. Anyone happen to know the best streaming service for these flicks?
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Shageletic posted:Going back thru the thread and quoting this to find later. imo for biollante and the other heisei films archive dot org is gonna be your best bet tubi has all the classic showa godzillas, free with ads and some dub/sub options hbo max has some showa films, not sure the subbed/dubbed status pluto tv plays godzilla films "live" and with commercials, so you might just happen to catch one you want.
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Plex also is good for a free option that doesn’t have ads.
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# ? Dec 24, 2023 21:17 |
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I'm so glad I got the Biolante blu-ray for $8 over a decade ago.
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Detective No. 27 posted:I'm so glad I got the Biolante blu-ray for $8 over a decade ago. such a weird time when echo bridge was selling biollante in a dvd pack with like, dinocroc and some other crap
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Just went for a Christmas Eve morning matinee for Minus One. Third time it still hits hard.
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