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It used to be 2000 seals and they expected you to grind them out yourself. Sprouts these days have it easy.
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I remember doing one of the hunting logs for the 200 seals when I first played a few years ago.
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Kwyndig posted:It used to be 2000 seals and they expected you to grind them out yourself. Sprouts these days have it easy. Oh I definitely just had to pick a grand company too when I last played five years ago Life is good!
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Dec 25, 2023 18:52
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It looks like the Heavensturn guys finally ran out of equipment to hand out. https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/special/2024/Heavensturn/t03u4zqkln It's a pretty cute minion, at least.
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Thundarr posted:It looks like the Heavensturn guys finally ran out of equipment to hand out. Honestly, I prefer a chicken wearing a costume to an ugly headpiece.
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Dec 25, 2023 19:39
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they didnt want to get dragged by viera and hroth players again
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Dec 25, 2023 19:55
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Sell me the dragon hoodie, Yoshi-p
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Ah, the Official Announcement. I've known about the minion since 6.5, and it's one of the larger ones. It looks really good in game.
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a cartoon duck posted:try to start a pre-pull timer as a non-tank and see what happens *Earthly Star has entered the chat*
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do you think they'll announce the new limited job at fanfest, or keep it in their pocket for a hype boost during the post-expansion lull around 7.2 or so?
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Blue Mage got announced at a Fan Fest, so if we go off that, then probably. But then we're working off a sample size of 1.
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Countblanc posted:do you think they'll announce the new limited job at fanfest, or keep it in their pocket for a hype boost during the post-expansion lull around 7.2 or so? you can just say beastmaster
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Dec 25, 2023 21:12
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the next limited job is scheduled for the later half of 7.x,so I doubt we'll see it now blue mage was announced at one of the shb fanfest but it was also gonna come out during stb
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Vitamean posted:the next limited job is scheduled for the later half of 7.x,so I doubt we'll see it now A quick Googling says it was announced at the Vegas FanFest for Shadowbringers, and was released as part of Patch 4.5 for Stormblood.
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Unintentionally syncing up the Pawah Mujuuk fight to be during a thunderstorm was badass as hell
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I can do the quest to become a Bard now. When I went from Pugilist to Monk I'm p sure i did it asap but that was so long ago. Should I finish out Archer then go Bard or does it not matter since I can swap back
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Dec 26, 2023 03:32
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verbal enema posted:I can do the quest to become a Bard now. You can swap back to Archer any time by unequipping the Bard job stone but you will never ever have to or want to. There is no "finishing" the base class, beyond turning them into their Job
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Dec 26, 2023 03:33
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They're the same thing, Bard is just Better Archer
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kewl ty
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The only class that has any kind of reason to remain past collecting the job stone is Conjurer, and that's only because the unicorn mount quest can't be done on White Mage.
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It's a relic of an old system that they were trying to do and realized it was a lot more of a headache than it was worth. Jobs used to be unlocked by leveling multiple classes, for example Bard required 30 Archer and 15 Pugilist. Summoner and Scholar still being linked through Arcanist is another part of that. The sort of thing that's kinda neat when you're building an MMO around a grind mindset (FF11 kinda had a similar system with subjobs for example), but once you're streamlining the play experience it just gets in the way.
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Bruceski posted:It's a relic of an old system that they were trying to do and realized it was a lot more of a headache than it was worth. Jobs used to be unlocked by leveling multiple classes, for example Bard required 30 Archer and 15 Pugilist. Summoner and Scholar still being linked through Arcanist is another part of that. And that itself is a relic of the 1.0 mentality. Jobs did not exist until Yoshi-P took over. They were added in patch 1.21. In the original vision you would just level everyone class and build up custom roles using cross class abilities. This was impossible to balance and resulted in consolidated sets of abilities anyways.
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Oh: once you unlock Bard, if you're using gearsets remember to save with the job stone equipped. Otherwise it can be an easy thing to miss if you're switching around between classes.
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They'd sort of been playing around in that space with the idea that more jobs could be tied to a shared base, but developing Arcanist (which was supposed to be released in 1.0 but was delayed even before the job system was made, and finally made its debut in 2.0) convinced them that no, no actually they wouldn't try that again.
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I'm still surprised that they haven't gone and made Scholar an entirely separate job that just requires you to get ARC to 30.
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blastron posted:I'm still surprised that they haven't gone and made Scholar an entirely separate job that just requires you to get ARC to 30. When in doubt blame it on the spaghetti code
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Yeah. It's working fine now, there's no point in trying to fix it and risking making things break.
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why would anyone want that in the first place? if anything, they should add more classes where i level 1 and get another for free
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Truga posted:why would anyone want that in the first place? Making a single class split into two jobs was such a pain they couldn’t make it happen in 1.21 when they introduced jobs in the first place, and balancing/managing the class system was such a pain that it is effectively gone from the game entirely. When we were waiting for HW we sure thought that the new tank job was gonna split off of an extant class. The devs just decided that everything is a job now and classes are defunct. It still took a few expacs to switch to the current streamlined experience.
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that sounds like a bunch of bad excuses as early as ARR they started splitting ruin potency between sch and smn, effectively making them different skills per job, clearly illustrating both jobs using ruin was just an aesthetic choice rather than something to do with spaghetti code and now, they don't share any skills at all. so clearly "balancing/managing the class system" isn't the reason
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It was a poo poo system and I'm glad it's dead.
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why is "get one class extra when leveling" poo poo though?
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It really badly hamstringed the job team, especially when it came time to cull actions. They're on record about regretting doing it, pretty sure.
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Truga posted:why is "get one class extra when leveling" poo poo though? Because you won't know how to play the extra class.
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Andrew Verse posted:Because you won't know how to play the extra class. judging by some posts in this thread, leveling a class isn't a fix for this either
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Arist posted:It really badly hamstringed the job team, especially when it came time to cull actions. They're on record about regretting doing it, pretty sure. It was this yeah. It hosed up how they could design the base kit for SMN/SCH and was a huge headache. There's no benefit to them doing it again and they know it.
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Andrew Verse posted:Because you won't know how to play the extra class. I have all 90s and I can play maybe three jobs proficiently
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Yeah if I can start Sage at 70 I don't think getting another job for free would be a skill issue.
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If you don't want to level a job, buy a level skip. They've got those, right? What you're saying is you want a free level skip. I get that, but I don't think it's going to happen.
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