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Papercut posted:Congrats to CMC on the MVP
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Papercut posted:Congrats to CMC on the MVP
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Dec 26, 2023 03:37
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Purdy the first QB to go from MVP frontrunner to cut from team in one game.
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get benched loser lmao
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Honestly, after watching him against my own team, I'm still not sold on Brock Purdy as MVP.
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Dec 26, 2023 05:43
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4 picks lol. hey dumbass how about throwing zero picks next time, idiot
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Purdy feels like a young version of the Lions Goff. He looks totally dominant for long stretches when things are going well but then he'll just hit a brick wall and single handedly lose games
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Dec 26, 2023 06:51
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lets kick the logic of this stupid award up another notch Purdy is even more clearly the MVP now, just look how bad they lost when he didn't play well, and CMC/Shanahan couldn't bail the team out haters with their system QB claims totally owned
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The337th posted:Purdy is even more clearly the MVP now, just look how bad they lost when he didn't play well, and CMC/Shanahan couldn't bail the team out this is more compelling than it should be
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Dec 26, 2023 07:03
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The337th posted:lets kick the logic of this stupid award up another notch counterpoint: the one touchdown the 9ers scored before garbage time and involved an actual drive down the field was entirely based on CMC running the ball or catching the ball in the backfield, and then Kyle decided he didn't want to do that anymore and Brock threw another 2 picks
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Dec 26, 2023 07:12
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The Ravens werent even in this game until Purdy threw 4 absolute dimes after that bum Lamar got sacked for a safety. His MVP campaign continues imo
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Dec 26, 2023 07:18
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The337th posted:lets kick the logic of this stupid award up another notch 4 bad games, 0-4 record. The case is clear: the fate of this franchise rides on this young man's shoulders.
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Alaois posted:counterpoint: the one touchdown the 9ers scored before garbage time and involved an actual drive down the field was entirely based on CMC running the ball or catching the ball in the backfield, and then Kyle decided he didn't want to do that anymore and Brock threw another 2 picks awful offense that can only score one TD in non-garbage time unless their MVP is carrying them, correct fraud coach/RB being carried by Mr. Irrelevant
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Purdy feels like a young version of the Lions Goff. He looks totally dominant for long stretches when things are going well but then he'll just hit a brick wall and single handedly lose games he's young kirk
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Dec 26, 2023 07:19
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these are all insanely fantastic outcomes for a Mr. Irrelevant
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AndrewP posted:these are all insanely fantastic outcomes for a Mr. Irrelevant yea its really no hate and the fact he's at that point now means maybe he'll get past that after another year or two shanahan with a kirk or a goff is absolutely a super bowl contender
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Dutchy posted:4 bad games, 0-4 record. The case is clear: the fate of this franchise rides on this young man's shoulders. Trent Williams?
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AndrewP posted:this is more compelling than it should be Hell, I'm convinced
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Jordan Love is going to have a better season as a first year starter than Aaron Rodgers by nearly every metric and I think that's pretty cool because Jordan Love is good.
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MrLogan posted:Trent Williams? I love Trent Williams and I want the world to know it
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The337th posted:lets kick the logic of this stupid award up another notch Zach Wilson has been terrible all year on a team destined for the Super Bowl. if he played good, they'd be the #1 seed now. crown him
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Hot Diggity! posted:Jordan Love is going to have a better season as a first year starter than Aaron Rodgers by nearly every metric and I think that's pretty cool because Jordan Love is good. https://twitter.com/TylerDBrooke/status/1739664564415868974
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13 TDs and only one INT in the past six weeks with the youngest group of skill position players in the league. Pretty pretty good.
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Earlier this season everyone was saying how lovely Love was, the NFL is weird.
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Love had a starting grade of “unknown” and then public opinion has rollercoastered between good and bad. Where will consensus be at the end of the season? Who can say? One thing we all agree on; Love is better than Bryce Youngz
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Black Sunshine posted:Earlier this season everyone was saying how lovely Love was, the NFL is weird. He had a rough streak of games, but the entire offense was also out of sync and banged up as hell. The youth of the team led to lots of mistakes like receivers running wrong routes, blown blocking assignments, tons of pre-snap penalties, etc.
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Black Sunshine posted:Earlier this season everyone was saying how lovely Love was, the NFL is weird. He had a midseason turnaround where most of his receivers began clicking properly within the offense and his accuracy improved massively. Jordan Love, weeks 1 through 10 (Chicago, Atlanta, New Orleans, Detroit, Vegas, Denver, Minnesota, LA Rams, Pittsburgh): 176/300, 58.67% accuracy, 2009 yards, 14 TDs 10 ints, 19 sacks, 182 rushing yards 2 TDs Jordan Love, weeks 11 through 16 (LA Chargers, Detroit, Kansas City, NY Giants, Tampa Bay, Carolina): 145/214, 67.76% accuracy, 1578 yards, 13 TDs 1 int, 10 sacks, 64 rushing yards 1 TD What's really exciting for me is that even with that huge statistical jump in accuracy there's still so much room for improvement since a lot of his recent missed throws are only just slightly off.
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Love has seven games with multiple passing TDs and no picks, which is the most in the league. He's good.
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The337th posted:awful offense that can only score one TD in non-garbage time unless their MVP is carrying them, correct Finally y'all get it 
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Also there's stuff like this where you can tangibly see him improve on similar throws week-by-week: https://twitter.com/AndyHermanNFL/status/1736592294751482141
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 Dork stats for weeks 9 - 16 for people who take stock in the dork stats
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Black Sunshine posted:Earlier this season everyone was saying how lovely Love was, the NFL is weird. People love to jump to conclusions. As fans are by their nature reactionary. Like if Bryce does use him stunting on the Packers D as a turning point no one will remember how much people poo poo on him this year
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epic bacon posted:Zach Wilson has been terrible all year on a team destined for the Super Bowl. if he played good, they'd be the #1 seed now. crown him Now we're cooking
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Hot Diggity! posted:
If I'm reading this right, this shows that Justin Fields grades out as almost a perfectly average QB at the end of the day?
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Mike N Eich posted:If I'm reading this right, this shows that Justin Fields grades out as almost a perfectly average QB at the end of the day? For weeks 9 -16 in EPA he's not really adding or taking away anything from the offense and he's completing the passes you'd expect a starting QB to make and not much more. So less "average QB" and more he's just kinda...there. EPA has a tendency to overvalue splash plays which is why the additional comparison with CPOE is beneficial. Hot Diggity! fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Dec 26, 2023 |
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EPA is a team offense stat. CPOE is more tied to QB skill but it’s still subjective.
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I think my biggest problem with advanced stats is they're just all weighted formulas that are no poo poo things. Like of course if you get a lot of yards on a play you're going to have a higher EPA, which could easily just be measured by looking at the yards. It still says nothing about how those yards were gained.
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What I like is that they basically sum up all the stats, which are already fairly context-free anyway, into one number to look at. I can look at yards, TDs, attempts, picks, and sacks, or I can just look at ANY/A. Helps for comparing multiple players at once, or creating rough "tiers". Anything more detailed requires looking at actual film and if you're doing that then the box scores don't matter anyway.
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Jordan Love opened well and then struggled a little bit like 3 weeks in, I'm going to chalk this up to, defenses finding their feet and more film, but he's come out the other side and looked fantastic. Gotta give credit where it's due, especially after the rumours of him not having much between the ears were cropping up in the offseason.
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