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Salt Fish posted:Any ATX replacement should make it so you mount the GPU to the case and plug power into it, and then the GPU has the CPU socket, DIMM slots, chipset etc that plugs into it. Make the mobo a backplane, with a beefy slot connector for the CPU on its own board with the RAM, and another beefy slot for the GPU that passes through all the power. Additional slots for storage and PCIe devices go on the backplane. Power connects to that, one power cable only.
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FuturePastNow posted:Make the mobo a backplane, with a beefy slot connector for the CPU on its own board with the RAM, and another beefy slot for the GPU that passes through all the power. Additional slots for storage and PCIe devices go on the backplane. Power connects to that, one power cable only. I, too, wish the Intel NUC "Compute Element" standard got adopted  CPU, RAM DIMMs, and M.2 access on something comparable to a modern GPU in form factor - what could have been 
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Salt Fish posted:Any ATX replacement should make it so you mount the GPU to the case and plug power into it, and then the GPU has the CPU socket, DIMM slots, chipset etc that plugs into it. The case should just be live at all times with whatever current and the mobo should just deal. Or run everything on Qi wireless power.
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DoombatINC posted:I, too, wish the Intel NUC "Compute Element" standard got adopted But how do I attach a half-meter tall cooler tower onto that thing?
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DoombatINC posted:I, too, wish the Intel NUC "Compute Element" standard got adopted it failed because they kept putting cringe gamer skulls on them should have gone with waifus
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Arrath posted:But how do I attach a half-meter tall cooler tower onto that thing? You don't, you simply throw the tower into the ocean with your car batteries
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repiv posted:it failed because they kept putting cringe gamer skulls on them It is a pretty poo poo direction to have gone in. My wife would have actually wanted that form factor too. It looks like Intel is continuing the push the standard and some of the components, but they just won't be doing the full assembly any more. Maybe. Who knows. We'll see after everybody comes back from vacation if they turn back on the machine that punches themselves in the face.
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repiv posted:it failed because they kept putting cringe gamer skulls on them
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Shipon posted:it's frankly kind of astounding how the gpu companies haven't caught onto doing marketing collabs with anime studios or vtuber agencies they could jack those prices up a hundred or two hundred ez Yeston does waifu cards, and in the sea of gamer black & red designs they’re a breath of fresh air… until you inhale too much of the perfume they put on the cards and hack up a lung.
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I think Asus also have the Evangelion and Gundam licenses and have done GPUs with that branding. Here's the 4090 EVA-2 for example. I think they generally do entire parts sets with matching branding so you could build an entire EVA-02 PC. This card is currently around £2200, so a solid £600 jump from a normal 4090. Hyte also have a deal with Hololive to do cases with their branding and have done a bunch, like this Amelia Watson version of the Y40. This is $280, $160 more than the regular Y40 and I think every one of these versions they've done has sold out its first production run immediately.  And there was the ASRock SONIC motherboard as well, if companies can slap a brand on something they're already making they absolutely will. njsykora fucked around with this message at 15:24 on Dec 25, 2023 |
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They also had to recall some motherboards because they misspelled Evangelion
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njsykora posted:And there was the ASRock SONIC motherboard as well, if companies can slap a brand on something they're already making they absolutely will. Two Asrock Sonic motherboards (different form factors and chipsets). I got my partner one for her birthday and she loves it. https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z790%20PG%20SONIC/index.html https://pg.asrock.com/mb/Intel/B760M%20PG%20SONIC%20WiFi/Specification.asp
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njsykora posted:I think Asus also have the Evangelion and Gundam licenses and have done GPUs with that branding. Here's the 4090 EVA-2 for example. I think they generally do entire parts sets with matching branding so you could build an entire EVA-02 PC. This card is currently around £2200, so a solid £600 jump from a normal 4090. This would admittedly be more impressive if they didn't just like, reuse the same cooler design across every card. This is just a Strix card with some stuff printed on it, it would be way cheaper to design, print, and apply your own vinyl sticker. At least Yeston goes novel with the designs so you feel like you're getting something different
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change my name posted:This would admittedly be more impressive if they didn't just like, reuse the same cooler design across every card. This is just a Strix card with some stuff printed on it, it would be way cheaper to design, print, and apply your own vinyl sticker. Not to mention ASUS then charges like a $600 premium for the stuff they printed on it.
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Nothing like discussing anime graphic cards with my bros on Christmas.
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Kibner posted:Two Asrock Sonic motherboards (different form factors and chipsets). I got my partner one for her birthday and she loves it. I’d probably be all over this if I wasn’t so dedicated to my Steampunk build featuring an AsRock Z690 Taichi that has an actual rotating gear: https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z690%20Taichi/ But also: Lockback posted:Nothing like discussing anime graphic cards with my bros on Christmas.
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Canned Sunshine posted:I’d probably be all over this if I wasn’t so dedicated to my Steampunk build featuring an AsRock Z690 Taichi that has an actual rotating gear: https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z690%20Taichi/ How does that page not have a video of the gear in motion?
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Subjunctive posted:How does that page not have a video of the gear in motion? It does, a little down from the top, below the "Tailor made motherboards" tagline. It's pretty discrete though and not nearly as well advertised as it should be.
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Canned Sunshine posted:I’d probably be all over this if I wasn’t so dedicated to my Steampunk build featuring an AsRock Z690 Taichi that has an actual rotating gear: https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z690%20Taichi/ Holy poo poo I need this. Also the ddr5 6400 is pretty cool. Do they have a 790 version with the gear?
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Canned Sunshine posted:It does, a little down from the top, below the "Tailor made motherboards" tagline. It's pretty discrete though and not nearly as well advertised as it should be. Oh yeah, there it is. I was hoping for a smooth constant rotation, or maybe varying in speed with CPU frequency, but I’m sure ASRock has their reasons.
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hark posted:Holy poo poo I need this. The Z90 has fixed decorative gears I think; it was only the Z590 and Z690 that had the rotating gear, but you can use 12th, 13th, and 14th Gen with the Z690 FWIW, and there's been decent sales on it in the recent past. Subjunctive posted:Oh yeah, there it is. I was hoping for a smooth constant rotation, or maybe varying in speed with CPU frequency, but I’m sure ASRock has their reasons. Yeah, I think it can be set so it rotates constantly, or every so many minutes, etc., but I do wish it had a smooth option. The varying with CPU speed would be neat! I currently have it set so it doesn't rotate too frequently just so that I don't burn out whatever motor is driving it too soon.
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Do the newer GPU power cables come with the cards in box or is it something you have to buy separately? Or is it case by case dependant? The 12VHPWR ones. Because my PSU did not come with one, I don't know if any do.
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take me you ANIMAL posted:Do the newer GPU power cables come with the cards in box or is it something you have to buy separately? Or is it case by case dependant? The 12VHPWR ones. Because my PSU did not come with one, I don't know if any do. The 12VHPWR cards come with adapters to use with regular 8-pin power cables. Some PSUs come with the 12VHPWR cable but for most you'll have to order separately ala https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Premium-600W-12VHPWR-Cable/dp/B0BLY1B362
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take me you ANIMAL posted:Do the newer GPU power cables come with the cards in box or is it something you have to buy separately? Or is it case by case dependant? The 12VHPWR ones. Because my PSU did not come with one, I don't know if any do. My PNY came with an adapter from four 8-pin PCIE to a 12VHPWR. I was thinking of picking up one of those CableMods cables for my PSU, since having a bunch of cables going into an adapter is quite a bit of clutter. I gave up when I couldn't get a set that would work for me.
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Check with your PSU manufacturer, and double check which model you have. Many of them offer custom cables for that board that make routing a lot easier than the stock adapter. I did that with my Corsair 1200W and it's 2 8 pin PCI-E (the spec only specifies a max 150W per cable at the GPU side, PSU companies are free to do more at the PSU side if they have the right wire gauge and quality) at the PSU side to the 12pin adapter.
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Shipon posted:Check with your PSU manufacturer, and double check which model you have. Many of them offer custom cables for that board that make routing a lot easier than the stock adapter. I did that with my Corsair 1200W and it's 2 8 pin PCI-E (the spec only specifies a max 150W per cable at the GPU side, PSU companies are free to do more at the PSU side if they have the right wire gauge and quality) at the PSU side to the 12pin adapter. EVGA 
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https://www.thermaltake.com/sleeved-pcie-gen-5-splitter-cable.html So something like this for my gf1 gold.
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https://twitter.com/VideoCardz/status/1739613380367843711 I've always been fascinated by the concept of a fully passive cooling (gaming) build although current coolers are quiet enough that they're not practical
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shrike82 posted:https://twitter.com/VideoCardz/status/1739613380367843711 It's only going to get harder to go fully passive now that even SSDs need airflow, let alone RAM, the PSU, anything else that might get warm. Aren't AMD chipsets pretty drat warm now too? I'm more interested in a form factor that lets air blow in a single straight line over CPU, GPU, and the rest, ideally with big ol fans moving slowly.
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Twerk from Home posted:It's only going to get harder to go fully passive now that even SSDs need airflow, let alone RAM, the PSU, anything else that might get warm. Aren't AMD chipsets pretty drat warm now too? Ahh, the Xbox Series X design.
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Kibner posted:Ahh, the Xbox Series X design. Yes, exactly that. It's compact, has incredible thermals, great power efficiency, why can't I do that with a 7950X and 4070 and fan spinning moderately faster?
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shrike82 posted:https://twitter.com/VideoCardz/status/1739613380367843711 Just slap on some really big fans and it can take off like a camera drone.
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Twerk from Home posted:Yes, exactly that. It's compact, has incredible thermals, great power efficiency, why can't I do that with a 7950X and 4070 and fan spinning moderately faster? Because then GPUs can’t be the size of a semi-truck.
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Branch Nvidian posted:Because then GPUs can’t be the size of a semi-truck. Hey, I look forward to parking my future RTX 9090 next to my future RV on the side of the house, dwarfing the Generac being used to power the card.
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Twerk from Home posted:Aren't AMD chipsets pretty drat warm now too? Some were required by AMD to have a fan but the 570S and 670 (and lower end models) don't and don't get to hot either. They tend to run around 55-65C but have a pretty high max temp so just having a small cheap aluminum HSF with passive airflow is fine.
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PC LOAD LETTER posted:Some were required by AMD to have a fan but the 570S and 670 (and lower end models) don't and don't get to hot either. That's the question with these fully passive builds: does "passive airflow" mean case fans or PSU fan at least, or just convection?
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for the one i shared, PSU and MB are fanless
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