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The explosion looked bigger than what I imagine a load of shaheeds would produce so yeah makes sense. Unless they're like really packed in there.
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Dec 27, 2023 02:56
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Oscar Wilde Bunch posted:Read some report that it wasn’t drones or just drones, (wouldn’t those come in via the Caspian anyway) but a couple thousand artillery shells and grad missiles. I absolutely do not believe only one person died from that attack unless they all fled while the fire was ongoing.
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Dec 27, 2023 03:15
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CommieGIR posted:I absolutely do not believe only one person died from that attack unless they all fled while the fire was ongoing. Well, they only found one body, sooo..
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Dec 27, 2023 03:50
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OAquinas posted:Well, they only found one body, sooo.. Maybe they put all the body parts they found in a bucket and it weighed around 75kg so they called it good enough... redshirt posted:I am eagerly waiting for the day, soon to come, when Russia truly realizes they are losing, and will continue to lose. The Russian people. who says they're losing? Trump is clear that if he wins the next election, he'll end the war in 24 hours by giving Russia everything they want for peace. Go look at https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/ and tell me Russia has lost - at this rate if they hold out for 11 more months, they could win it all (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) Captain Postal fucked around with this message at 04:52 on Dec 27, 2023 |
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Dec 27, 2023 04:39
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I am eagerly waiting for the day, soon to come, when Russia truly realizes they are losing, and will continue to lose. The Russian people. What happens then?
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Dec 27, 2023 04:40
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redshirt posted:I am eagerly waiting for the day, soon to come, when Russia truly realizes they are losing, and will continue to lose. The Russian people. This will not happen for quite some time, if ever. 2024 is going to be a very rough year for Ukraine; how the war is perceived hinges on how well they survive it. Russia is still gaining ground and isn't getting displaced from its seized holdings. They're hemorrhaging men and materiel but they have both in relative abundance. Meanwhile we're one catastrophic vote away from a putin friendly US president and the drying up of all aid from the US (the latter possibly occurring even well prior to that vote). Putin's comfortable in his position; he has an absolute grip on Russia and its people. Life is cheap to him. It's not all doom and gloom, but Russia is far from cracking.
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Dec 27, 2023 04:56
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OAquinas posted:This will not happen for quite some time, if ever. They also are not exactly 'winning' either. Yeah, they may be trying to play for the clock but its unlikely even with a reversal of US support that they suddenly start making good ground gains, they are still conducting body wave operations.
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Dec 27, 2023 05:06
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Here's some F16's, gently caress up their navy first
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Dec 27, 2023 05:19
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The US is the largest contributor of aid to Ukraine but hardly the only supporter. If Trump wins and revokes all support for Ukraine I would imagine that many European countries would step up their military/civilian aid even further. If Russia did get its peace it will have to deal with an insurgency from a country that has done this before to the Soviet Union post-WW2 and unlike the shitshow that was Iraq the insurgents will be receiving much more international support. This assumes Trump wins and withdraws support for Ukraine, even though he was pro-Russia during his administration the US started sending out lethal weapons to Ukraine
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Dec 27, 2023 05:28
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Budzilla posted:The US is the largest contributor of aid to Ukraine but hardly the only supporter. If Trump wins and revokes all support for Ukraine I would imagine that many European countries would step up their military/civilian aid even further. If Russia did get its peace it will have to deal with an insurgency from a country that has done this before to the Soviet Union post-WW2 and unlike the shitshow that was Iraq the insurgents will be receiving much more international support. This assumes Trump wins and withdraws support for Ukraine, even though he was pro-Russia during his administration the US started sending out lethal weapons to Ukraine I have bad news about folks who various European nations will elect in next year or two. Poland being only recent positive example, but Netherlands and Slovakia went HARD right. And we have Austria, Portugal and Croatia in 2024, none of those are too significant donors to Ukraine, and also UK at the end of the year. And then comes the big one in 2025 which has the big one, Germany, and also Czech republic.
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Dec 27, 2023 06:12
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♪ I saw the UA sink a ship ♫ ♪ On Christmas Day, on Christmas Day ♫ ♪ I saw the UA sink a ship ♫ ♪ On Christmas Day in the morning ♫
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Dec 27, 2023 07:18
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Mistle posted:♪ I saw the UA sink a ship ♫ No (unilateral) Christmas Truce, truly Ukraine are the real nazis. 
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Dec 27, 2023 07:49
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Budzilla posted:The US is the largest contributor of aid to Ukraine but hardly the only supporter. If Trump wins and revokes all support for Ukraine I would imagine that many European countries would step up their military/civilian aid even further. Most of what military equipment Europe can spare has already been sent and the civilian aid is being held hostage by the Putin minded EU countries. Of course money can be sent from the countries and not through the EU but this would go against decades of almost religious belief these kind things should go always through the EU.
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Dec 27, 2023 07:50
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVFWYjqUq-k Seems to be the case Ukraine didnt just get that landing craft, they got two other Russian vessels as well at the same time
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Dec 27, 2023 10:19
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVFWYjqUq-k So what you're saying is Russia gets the triple economic boost of making three new ships? Checkmate westailures, Putin stays winning.
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Dec 27, 2023 11:01
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truly a christmas miracle
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Dec 27, 2023 11:02
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CeeJee posted:Most of what military equipment Europe can spare has already been sent and the civilian aid is being held hostage by the Putin minded EU countries. CeeJee posted:Of course money can be sent from the countries and not through the EU but this would go against decades of almost religious belief these kind things should go always through the EU.
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Dec 27, 2023 11:23
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Budzilla posted:The Netherlands are sending 18 F16s to Ukraine, according to wikipedia (grain of salt) they are supposed to have over 200 F16s with more than half of those receiving a MLU (mid life update). They can send more stuff it is the political will of how much draw down of stocks to explain to the electorate they are willing to argue. Perun did a video about this a few months ago about this exact subject. If only. We had 200 F16s at the peak in the early 90s. That number has steadily dwindled as airframes were taken out of service and not replaced, and that's only accelerated as they are being replaced by F35s. I think we had about 50 or so F16s before we transferred the 18 to Ukraine. It's a bit depressing, looking back at the state of the military at the end of the cold war, and seeing just how much has been economized away. The Netherlands by itself had over 900 Leopard tanks in 1990. We could have supplied all tanks sent to Ukraine by ourselves, without breaking too much of a sweat. Currently we have 0.
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Dec 27, 2023 11:36
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Philonius posted:If only. We had 200 F16s at the peak in the early 90s. That number has steadily dwindled as airframes were taken out of service and not replaced, and that's only accelerated as they are being replaced by F35s. I think we had about 50 or so F16s before we transferred the 18 to Ukraine. Turns out the real peace dividend is getting to watch helplessly as Russia warcrimes its way across your friendly neighbors.
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Dec 27, 2023 11:40
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Philonius posted:It's a bit depressing, looking back at the state of the military at the end of the cold war, and seeing just how much has been economized away. The Netherlands by itself had over 900 Leopard tanks in 1990. We could have supplied all tanks sent to Ukraine by ourselves, without breaking too much of a sweat. Currently we have 0. Finland bought 100 of those Leo 2A6 for really cheap. At least they werent scrapped.
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Dec 27, 2023 11:46
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Budzilla posted:The Netherlands are sending 18 F16s to Ukraine, according to wikipedia (grain of salt) they are supposed to have over 200 F16s with more than half of those receiving a MLU (mid life update). They can send more stuff it is the political will of how much draw down of stocks to explain to the electorate they are willing to argue. Perun did a video about this a few months ago about this exact subject. The leader of the current largest party in the Netherlands specifically mentioned on the campaign trail that he didn't even want to send those 18 F16s because "We should be using those ourselves" against god knows what. The continued aid seems mostly contingent on other liberal partners in his future coalition demanding it, but they could just as easily concede in order to secure some other compromises. Ukraine will probably at least get to keep what they've received so far but it's not looking great in terms of aid from western Europe. Public support is spotty and populist anger is latching on to the military aid question as another liberal excess that could be better used domestically.
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Dec 27, 2023 12:03
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Clerical Terrors posted:The leader of the current largest party in the Netherlands specifically mentioned on the campaign trail that he didn't even want to send those 18 F16s because "We should be using those ourselves" against god knows what. The continued aid seems mostly contingent on other liberal partners in his future coalition demanding it, but they could just as easily concede in order to secure some other compromises. I guess he wants to start bombing refugees or something.
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Dec 27, 2023 12:04
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I'm begging people who seem to know nothing about Europe to please stop doomposting about what Europeans think. The attitudes of the public towards Ukraine have seen very little drop in support, the win for Geert Wilders in the NL has much more to do with Dutch farming policies than it does with Ukraine, has not put him into power yet, and he may well not be able to form a coalition. Even if he does it is unlikely he will be able to stop aid to Ukraine as every other party supports it. While Hungary was able to block the €50b package of aid, the EU is currently lining up a €20b package he can't block and is looking at using the sanctioned reserves taken from Russia as additional funding. I would love for European countries to be doing more, some of the reasons for lower deliveries of munitions are embarrassing and shouldn't have occurred, but doomposting is also not helpful in understanding what is actually happening and is doing Russia's work for them by making a collapse of support seem inevitable.
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Dec 27, 2023 12:43
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DJ Burette posted:I'm begging people who seem to know nothing about Europe to please stop doomposting about what Europeans think. The attitudes of the public towards Ukraine have seen very little drop in support, the win for Geert Wilders in the NL has much more to do with Dutch farming policies than it does with Ukraine, has not put him into power yet, and he may well not be able to form a coalition. Even if he does it is unlikely he will be able to stop aid to Ukraine as every other party supports it. While Hungary was able to block the €50b package of aid, the EU is currently lining up a €20b package he can't block and is looking at using the sanctioned reserves taken from Russia as additional funding. I didn't get that, can you explain everything solely through the lens of American politics? tia
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Dec 27, 2023 13:05
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Philonius posted:If only. We had 200 F16s at the peak in the early 90s. That number has steadily dwindled as airframes were taken out of service and not replaced, and that's only accelerated as they are being replaced by F35s. I think we had about 50 or so F16s before we transferred the 18 to Ukraine. DJ Burette posted:I'm begging people who seem to know nothing about Europe to please stop doomposting about what Europeans think.
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Dec 27, 2023 13:11
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Arzachel posted:I didn't get that, can you explain everything solely through the lens of American politics? tia
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Dec 27, 2023 13:17
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https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1739965596828365175#m Like we never heard that one before.
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Dec 27, 2023 13:27
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Oh no they found the Swedish MREs 
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Dec 27, 2023 13:57
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https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/12/26/7434696/quote:Lieutenant General Mykola Oleshchuk, Ukraine's Air Force Commander, has commented that his figure being put on the wanted list of the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs is a proof of the effectiveness of his work.
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Dec 27, 2023 13:59
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God willing the new draft of guys with no jaws, legs or balls will allow Ukraine to sweep the field. Slava!
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Dec 27, 2023 15:04
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ContinuityNewTimes posted:God willing the new draft of guys with no jaws, legs or balls will allow Ukraine to sweep the field. Slava! 
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Dec 27, 2023 15:19
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indeed I don't think they will help russia very much
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Dec 27, 2023 15:22
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Russians filming themselves priming grenades and wedging them under dead UA soldiers is a nice new low of the war so far. Something something NATO is to blame
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Dec 27, 2023 17:04
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https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/status/1740025805105762674#mquote:⚡️The russians sent a large group of agents to Feodosiia [temporarily occupied Crimea] to find those responsible for the destruction of the landing ship "Novocherkask», reports the partisan movement «ATESH».
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Dec 27, 2023 17:30
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ATESH posted:Putin is angry about the destruction of the russian landing ship "Novocherkask" He's so angry he soiled himself
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Dec 27, 2023 17:53
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why would they need to punish the air defense forces when they shot down all the attackers
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Dec 27, 2023 17:56
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"All war is deception" -Sun Tzu they won't be expecting the air defense forces on foot. Genius
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Dec 27, 2023 17:58
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what air defense doing? assaulting prepared defensive positions on foot, of course.
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Dec 27, 2023 18:01
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zone posted:https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/status/1740025805105762674#m Nice to see them following in the footsteps of the Wehrmacht where failure is punished by being sent to the miserable Russian front.
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Dec 27, 2023 18:04
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImHli2Q_g_Q just send the Afrika Korps to the North Pole
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