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| Dead Space |
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5 | 5.10% |
| Metroid Prime |
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| System Shock |
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VostokProgram posted:but healers fight in it and the previous poster said that in wow games healers do not fight nah i've seen Scholars. They never turn the page they have open, makes me think it really is just for show. I remember going to a relative's house a few years ago, looking over their bookshelf, and seeing a beautifully-bound copy of moby dick. I picked it up to look at, and heard the telltale crack of a book spine that had never been opened before. And that's ff14 scholars
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Dec 27, 2023 17:04
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Force psychological therapy is force suggestion applied with a trowel.
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Dec 27, 2023 17:11
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So was this the worst year for big-name games? I don't mean in a "Call of Duty 2023 was so mediocre it was forgettable" sense, but in a "Multiple large releases graced the bottom of metacritic's ratings" way.
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Dec 27, 2023 19:40
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Please present your working
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Dec 27, 2023 19:45
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the worst year for AAA games was 1823
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Dec 27, 2023 19:46
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Randalor posted:So was this the worst year for big-name games? I don't mean in a "Call of Duty 2023 was so mediocre it was forgettable" sense, but in a "Multiple large releases graced the bottom of metacritic's ratings" way. I think Diablo IV, and Starfield were pretty disappointing, but overall this was a great year for gaming across the board.
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Dec 27, 2023 19:47
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Yeah if nothing else the flops only stand out because of how much seriously great stuff came out this year. Starfield and D4 may have stood more of a chance if they weren’t surrounded by constant greatness. MW3 sounds like a turd from any angle though.
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Dec 27, 2023 19:49
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i'm not convinced either D4 or starfield would've stood out much at all, even if the landscape were utterly barren even if you didn't have the overpowering brightness of BG3's halo, i think everyone can see starfield's awful writing, tedious gameplay, barren world, and glitchy held together by duct tape engine and realize that the rot has set in
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Dec 27, 2023 20:05
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goatface posted:Please present your working In no particular order: Redfall Starfield Gollum Star Trek: Resurgence Skull Island: Rise of Kong Total War Pharaoh Those are just off the top of my head, and I'm not saying there weren't solid titles released this year, just that the games that had big names behind them or giant media pushes that turned out to be hot garbage seemed to be more this year than previous years.
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Dec 27, 2023 20:12
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redfall and starfield are the only really big names that got significant money dumped behind advertising them on that list. gollum got a game awards trailer the previous year that i remember, but i didn't see much of resurgence, kong, or pharaoh beyond, like, a short reveal trailer during one of the many game reveal shows earlier in the year
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Dec 27, 2023 20:16
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Vermain posted:i'm not convinced either D4 or starfield would've stood out much at all, even if the landscape were utterly barren Lol Bethesda employees are going to walk around for the next few years holding a grudge against BG3 for “stealing” all the GOTY awards from Starfield. Todd isn’t going to learn a single thing from this is he.
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Dec 27, 2023 20:17
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Redfail, and starfail. A pattern emerges
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Dec 27, 2023 20:19
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VostokProgram posted:but healers fight in it and the previous poster said that in wow games healers do not fight having regretfully tried wow again twice this year (retail and classic SoD) healers in that game do not fight the enemies in the dungeon but instead fight their teammates trying to desperately keep them alive through their own stupidity while also fighting with their own mana bar as it disappears after every loving pull it wasn't fun in either version
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Dec 27, 2023 20:19
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GreatGreen posted:Lol Bethesda employees are going to walk around for the next few years holding a grudge against BG3 for “stealing” all the GOTY awards from Starfield. inside baseball is that part of the issue with starfield is that their previous development strategy of "just go ask todd about anything if you don't know what the answer to X lore/game design/whatever thing is" started to falter as todd spent less and less time in the office, so he seems to be in the process of distancing himself from the production end anyways if they don't replace emil before TES6 hits alpha then i have next to no hope in it
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Dec 27, 2023 20:20
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Jay Rust posted:Redfail, and starfail. A pattern emerges also Babylon's Fail God is clearly punishing us for the delistment of Transformers: The Fall of Cybertron
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Dec 27, 2023 20:25
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Vermain posted:inside baseball is that part of the issue with starfield is that their previous development strategy of "just go ask todd about anything if you don't know what the answer to X lore/game design/whatever thing is" started to falter as todd spent less and less time in the office, so he seems to be in the process of distancing himself from the production end anyways  if it turns out that Todd Howard was actually what was keeping the games even halfway decent all along
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Dec 27, 2023 20:27
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the people hated him because he said the truth
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Dec 27, 2023 20:28
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I forgot Redfall was a thing that exists.
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Dec 27, 2023 20:35
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Randalor posted:In no particular order:
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Dec 27, 2023 20:44
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It's a Telltale-style game by some former Telltale people. I'd hardly call it a big name game, unless you count Star Trek as being a big name, when the series has had countless games, many bad (there's some good ones though)
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Dec 27, 2023 20:49
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Star Trek Online is about the only relevant Star Trek game right now, but it's an MMORPG and is really overwhelming with a lot of poorly designed systems and mechanics, on top of a pay to win cash shop and too much grinding.
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Dec 27, 2023 20:51
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Vermain posted:redfall and starfield are the only really big names that got significant money dumped behind advertising them on that list. gollum got a game awards trailer the previous year that i remember, but i didn't see much of resurgence, kong, or pharaoh beyond, like, a short reveal trailer during one of the many game reveal shows earlier in the year Spring Break My Heart posted:Starfield wasn't really savaged by Metacritic and Skull Island and Gollum weren't what anyone should consider big name games. Literally never heard of that Star Trek game either. I saw ads for those games all the time leading up to their releases, which is why they stuck out in my mind. As far as Starfield, all I remember hearing when it came out was how bland it was, I hadn't actually checked the metacritic review for it, though their one 10 rating seems to be from a reviewer that gave high ratings out like candy, so... 
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Dec 27, 2023 20:58
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Was the budget stellaris star trek game this year?
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Dec 27, 2023 21:02
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Silent Hill Ascension too
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Dec 27, 2023 21:04
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Randalor posted:In no particular order: Nearly half that list was shovelware from the start, not even AA. And other than Redfall and Starfield none were really expected to fly off the shelves.
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Dec 27, 2023 21:05
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Randalor posted:I saw ads for those games all the time leading up to their releases, which is why they stuck out in my mind. As far as Starfield, all I remember hearing when it came out was how bland it was, I hadn't actually checked the metacritic review for it, though their one 10 rating seems to be from a reviewer that gave high ratings out like candy, so... it was a combination of the game itself being too large for most reviewers on tight schedules to complete a full playthrough (so they didn't work through the thin patina of content right away), and a general industry-wide sentiment that bethesda games are supposed to be colorful turn-your-brain-off sims where you can scoot around a big open world and shoot things for loot, so the fact that it broadly delivered on those ideas in the first few hours matched with prerelease expectations public opinion has soured considerably since launch, probably faster than any game i can remember, since people have seen how dry and empty the NG+ content is and the slew of far better written games that came out around its release has pushed their threadbare writing into the cold light of day
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Dec 27, 2023 21:05
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This is cool https://x.com/itwhiffed/status/1739899500603605243?s=46 https://x.com/itwhiffed/status/1739900853509910547?s=46
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Dec 27, 2023 21:06
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Gollum and King Kong are interesting because those are big name IPs that went to completely unqualified developers.  2023 was definitely an interesting year for video game releases. Both for better and for worse. Bad games were worth talking about (Redfall, Gollum, etc), average games were worth talking about because they were so disappointing (D4, Starfield), and the massive list of good games were varied and discussion-worthy (look at the GOTY thread if you haven't yet).
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Dec 27, 2023 21:15
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Propaganda Hour posted:Gollum and King Kong are interesting because those are big name IPs that went to completely unqualified developers. king kong's copyright is a huge tangled mess, with different incarnations of the character commanding different IP rights. the licensee behind the kong game was joe devito, who owns some kind of "skull island universe" thing that's mostly remained in comic book form, but his company made a recent concerted effort to push the IP out into the wild and try to get some more value added on to it, possibly due to the resurgence in kong interest thanks to universal's monsterverse it's basically the old "send the license to LJN and see what comes out" practice from the NES days but put into modern shovelware form
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Dec 27, 2023 21:23
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Vermain posted:inside baseball is that part of the issue with starfield is that their previous development strategy of "just go ask todd about anything if you don't know what the answer to X lore/game design/whatever thing is" started to falter as todd spent less and less time in the office, so he seems to be in the process of distancing himself from the production end anyways At this point I am convinced that Morrowind somehow managed to become an all-time great game entirely by accident.
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Dec 27, 2023 21:27
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Randalor posted:In no particular order: That Star Trek game is actually super fun for what it is, basically a telltale game. If you want to play a season of pretty good Star Trek, I recommend it.
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Dec 27, 2023 21:36
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Starfield's consensus was fun but forgettable until Bethsheda flipped out and started arguing with people in the Steam reviews, then it became the industry laughingstock
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Dec 27, 2023 21:37
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Starfield absolutely had the misfortune of coming between Baldur's Gate 3 and Cyberpunk: We Actually Finished The Game This Time Edition which exacerbated all its flaws, but it also just was a massive misstep on several fundamental levels.
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Dec 27, 2023 21:38
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you know you've hosed up when your full priced AAA game is 30% off on steam's winter sale less than 4 months post-launch
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Dec 27, 2023 22:02
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Starfield was still one of the 12 highest grossing games on Steam in 2023 even with the caveat that it was on Game Pass day and date. I think a lot of folks just bought it recently and/or have started to actually boot it up rather than reviews ticking over to negative due to Bethesda responding to reviews which has become somewhat of an industry standard practice.
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Dec 27, 2023 22:03
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Kerrzhe posted:since there's so many people playing monster hunter world again i hopped on to do some SOS's and joined someone doing ruiner nergi and shara ishvalda quest, was able to join his lobby along with another person, and we got him down on the 3rd try Shara Ishvalda is still my favorite final story boss for a first playthrough. Such a cool boss encounter with a just uncanny enough design to look threatening as well as feeling threatening.
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Dec 27, 2023 22:18
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AngryBooch posted:Starfield was still one of the 12 highest grossing games on Steam in 2023 even with the caveat that it was on Game Pass day and date. sure, though the more pertinent question for me is how much those sales matched up with internal revenue expectations; it reputedly had a budget in the $200m+ range, and that's a big chunk of change to spend for what's been a lukewarm response
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Dec 27, 2023 22:21
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GreatGreen posted:At this point I am convinced that Morrowind somehow managed to become an all-time great game entirely by accident. Same. They deliberately have been trying to design away from the stuff that made it work and laugh at those things like they were mistakes they would never make again today.
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Dec 27, 2023 22:23
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There's no industry thread so I'll put it here Killmonday games laid of some people and reduced size (probably for the better as they're a boutique adventure game company with one hit to their name): https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/362680/view/3882730411564636503
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Dec 27, 2023 22:32
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AngryBooch posted:Starfield was still one of the 12 highest grossing games on Steam in 2023 even with the caveat that it was on Game Pass day and date. I think a lot of folks just bought it recently and/or have started to actually boot it up rather than reviews ticking over to negative due to Bethesda responding to reviews which has become somewhat of an industry standard practice. Starfield sold well entirely because of the name "Bethesda" being associated with it, and the goodwill the company has built from their previous games, as well as an absolutely massive marketing campaign that was *very* careful about not revealing too much about what the game actually was and wasn't. People point to sales figures as if that has anything to do with a game's quality, especially when it comes from a company with decades of well known, well-appreciated releases behind them. Of course people are just going to buy the game based on the company's record. If Steven Spielberg took a poo poo in a paper bag and just put a rolling camera on that bag for two hours, and there was a giant marketing push for the movie where they framed it as "the boldest release from legendary director Steven Spielberg" blah blah, but didn't actually reveal what it was, then yes it would sell like crazy. Doesn't mean it would be a good movie. The fact that Bethesda developers have been not just "responding," but responding argumentatively and defensively to negative reviews, simply reveals how thin skinned and unprofessional they are, which is an entirely separate but still informative issue.
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