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jesus was way cool everybody liked jesus everybody wanted to hang out with him anything he wanted to do, he did he turned water into wine, and if he wanted to, he could have turned wheat into marijuana, sugar into cocaine, or vitamin pills into amphetamines he walked on the water and swam on the land he would tell these stories and people would listen he was really cool if you were blind or lame, you just went up to jesus and he would put his hands on you and you would be healed that's so cool he could have played guitar better than hendrix he could have told the future he could have baked the most delicious cake in the world he could have scored more goals than wayne gretsky he could have danced better than barishnikof jesus could have been funnier than any comedian you can think of jesus told people to eat his body and drink his blood that's so cool jesus was so cool but then some people got jealous of how cool he was, so they killed him but then he rose from the dead! he rose from the dead, danced around and went up to heaven i mean, that's so cool jesus was so cool no wonder there are so many christians
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AnimeIsTrash posted:men do alchemy which is real also astrology, the cool manly kind where you tell the king he's definitely going to win the battle he's about to fight and then make yourself scarce when he loses it very badly although until very recently the uncool womanly kind of astrology about falling in love was also mostly done by men, even if they put it out under pseudonyms in the newspapers
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i guess jesus did basically turn himself into an all-powerful lich through his magic ritual
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e: joke was a little off-color for my tastes
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some people call it magic, i call it magic tricks
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AnimeIsTrash posted:men do alchemy which is real
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i have discovered the secret to transmute a university degree into increasingly aggressive debt collector phone calls
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blatman posted:i have discovered the secret to transmute a university degree into increasingly aggressive debt collector phone calls We briefly discovered the counterspell but we were overwhelmed by the forces of evil
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Astrology: Yup. Looks like dudes to me! And, sure one of them has a sextant but that doesn't mean they can't have sextant later too? Grimnarsson has issued a correction as of 21:15 on Dec 29, 2023 |
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MY LIEGE, our finest augers have divined that a passing comet hath declared: yo mama so fat her belt size is "equator"
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Second Hand Meat Mouth posted:he was a necromancer not a witch the witch of endor was both, you fool, you absolute jamoke
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Buck Wildman posted:MY LIEGE, our finest augers have divined that a passing comet hath declared: yo mama so fat her belt size is "equator" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uJTn9Zbdq0&t=878s
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LITERALLY A BIRD posted:The paper is a trip, I think you'd find it interesting even if you conceptually disagree with the practice. Ancient theo-magical belief is loving fascinating imo. The real magic is getting goons to read a source
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Squizzle posted:the witch of endor was both, you fool, you absolute jamoke get this star wars poo poo out of here
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redneck nazgul posted:get this star wars poo poo out of here thank you binch
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FirstnameLastname posted:some people call it magic, i call it magic tricks
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LITERALLY A BIRD posted:Classical age ... antiquity what is the distinction here?
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Sextro posted:I don't know anything, but I do know that this movie is my favorite witch content atm. the love witch rules another good one is simon, king of the witches from 1971 starring andrew prine as a hedge witch/grifter who bluffs his way into LA high society full movies on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVHA5yl4jcg
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Weka posted:what is the distinction here? The fulcrum being discussed in that particular paper is the Papyri Graecae Magica, which as the name implies comes from ideas collected during Greco-Roman Egypt, so the last century or two BCE and then being developed up through the first three or four centuries CE. The papyrus appears to collect a lot of ideas influenced by Greek understanding of Egyptian religion (or magic), and make synthesis with them in combination with the Roman, and even the developing Abrahamic (the author uses the term Judeo-Christian) religions. Moving from Greco-Egyptian to Greco-Roman texts appear to be where we see the most marked changes in the ways people think of using "magic" within "religion," so the distinction there appears to be, roughly, pre- and post-Christianity -- to put it bluntly. My own area of particular interest and focus is the history and development of Egyptian religion, so I am willing to confidently agree with the author that in "antiquity," meaning here ancient Egypt, religion and magic were indeed pretty synonymous, and that where I start seeing the terms developing distinct identity is after Christianity really starts taking hold in the population (the study of Greek, Roman, and Christian religious history seeming to be what he is referring to as Classicalism). The paper (and papyri) mentions for example the way "magicians" are capable of ritually identifying with a God or other supernatural being, and then in the form of that identification bringing threats against other Gods or supernatural beings in order to bend or intimidate that other Being to the magician's will. This, as I understand it, is pretty distinctly Egyptian; and certainly not something we see permitted in religious understanding today. e: come to think of it, from the perspective of a rival God and the cultures developing around him, that any sufficiently powerful and well-connected magician is capable of going toe to toe with a Deity is drat good reason to snuff out that particular line of thinking in religion/magical practice, I suppose. Can't get held accountable if there's nobody left that believes you're capable of being held accountable 
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There was a little hike where I used to live that had a bunch of little dolls in trees and eventually a local christian freaked out and busted them all to pieces and put up signs decrying witchcraft so putting sigils and little idols all over the place definitely has a psychological impact on conservative perverts.
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alchemy gave us the discovery of phosphorous in which a guy was boiling vats of piss until it glowed in the dark in short, dudes rock
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captainbananas posted:jesus was way cool many people are saying this
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what is magery on the sorcerer - illusionist spectrum. actually can someone define the spellcaster spectrum. thnx
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Smythe posted:what is magery on the sorcerer - illusionist spectrum. actually can someone define the spellcaster spectrum. thnx ok so heres what u got witch - praxis wizard - book nerd, shits where he stands and a magic broom cleans it up sorcerer - the gigachad meme with magic missile and tensers floating disc mage - trade school wizard necromancer - the weird kid in highschool that was too weird to pick on cleric - ned flanders
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FirstnameLastname posted:some people call it magic, i call it magic tricks
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blatman posted:ok so heres what u got thnx
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yellowcar posted:what about illusionists phantasmal killer is a badass spell so I'll allow it
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yellowcar posted:what about illusionists charlatans, all of them
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yellowcar posted:alchemy gave us the discovery of phosphorous in which a guy was boiling vats of piss until it glowed in the dark you hafta age the piss first iirc so he collected a bunch for later use and then hey presto
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blatman posted:cleric - ned flanders incorrect, the cleric is reverend lovejoy ol neddily ned is a paladin
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FirstnameLastname posted:some people call it magic, i call it magic tricks
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yellowcar posted:what about illusionists I preferred "The Prestige", OP
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What a good thread this was, sorry I missed it in real timesome plague rats posted:drat sorry for my lack of understanding of this completely fake thing, maybe you can recommend me some imaginary reading material on the subject lol this was a two week probe Also I lol every time I see Larry Parrish's tiny permaban. Why is it so small??
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snoo posted:imagine hating women this much
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Dokapon Findom posted:What a good thread this was, sorry I missed it in real time good probe. probe magic.
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necromancy is also real and a dudes rock kind of magic
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the oldest textually attested forms of magic ive ever seen documented were mesopotamian necromancy and it was the particular domain of women, who worked thru lamentation and song
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No it was augers but rather than "finest" it was the "biggest". They're the same thing really.
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