thehandtruck posted:

We promise never to JewBarrass you because we’ve been there

Dokapon Findom posted:

I think it would go a little something like this- *everyone can see what I'm about to do and starts frantically waving me off*

Smug Mug posted:

Dan Carlin’s politics would probably make a good thread. my theory is that when he inadvertently brainwashes himself while reading sources to prepare each episode, being so agog with the scale of the historic event that he forgets to make any moral judgment.

hadji murad posted:

thank you for the Dan Carlin stuff

wow, I’m at the in-laws in Japan, doing a puzzle, then I heard the word Gaza on TV and they read out Refaat’s If I Must Die poem

Al-Saqr posted:

thats crazy i wonder how it would sound like in japanese

Mandoric posted:

what channel was it? i can prob transcribe from dvr.

Al-Saqr posted:

a palestinian commentator translated a shockingly defeatest article that came out of israeli newspaper, ill go look for the original to confirm

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Amazing frankness from an Israeli journalist: Enough...no victory.

This was Biden's advice to Netanyahu!

Orly Azoulay wrote in Yedioth:

“The October 7 war will not bring victory. Even a country with a luxurious army will not defeat a saboteur with an easy movement of two feet, and he has nothing to lose. He will jump from one tunnel mouth to another tunnel mouth, and pursue the organized army that was sent by a terror-stricken state to impose order in a place that is a trap.” Death. It is not a coincidence that Biden said to Netanyahu at the beginning of the fighting: Learn from our mistakes. He meant Afghanistan. The United States spent 20 years of fighting there until it withdrew in disgrace and returned the keys to the Taliban. This is how it also did in Vietnam. Fighters return in coffins, or wounded. In the body and in the soul, as happened to many American fighters in Afghanistan and Iraq.”

https://x.com/yzaatreh/status/1740657902103208207?s=46

Al-Saqr posted:

lol western media are all satan worshipping devil nazis

https://x.com/Seamus_Malek/status/1741017992794865982?s=20

Rigged Death Trap posted:

A bloodthirsty call to war against the downtrodden
By C. Iaplanti
From a euphemistically named think tank

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/AryJeay/status/1740677687968936405?t=AeeqpNaJ3zthX7xTkWd-ww&s=19

Okay what is going on here because there's no way the IDF has over 500 brigades and/or 7,008 battalions

Ghost Leviathan posted:

It's a bit of a thing with a lot of people where when you get immersed in something it tends to at least temporarily affect your thinking about it, but I think likely especially bad with people who don't have a lot of solid material or ideological grounding and end up basically believing the last thing they've been told. Hence the reason cable news is basically mind control for boomers.

my dad posted:

I hate wars. I hate the deaths, the maimings, the cruelty, the tragedies, the misery, the destruction, the ruination of lives...

But when all these things are happening in times of "peace", how can I not stand by those who are rising up against the injustice?

gently caress Israel. May God give the Palestinians victory.

Ytlaya posted:

The lack of any ideological grounding basically means that most people will believe anything they hear "a smart/trustworthy-sounding person" say, with what constitutes "smart/trustworthy" depending on their cultural preferences. And why wouldn't they? They don't have any clearly articulated beliefs guiding them, so of course they'll believe anything that "sounds like it makes sense."

This is actually why, even though it might sometimes seem like you're making progress talking to some "normie" in your life, in reality you probably aren't. They think what you're saying makes sense, and maybe they even believe you! But they'll also think what the TV/newspaper/etc makes sense next time they're exposed to it, even if it directly contradicts whatever you said. They don't have any consistent set of beliefs, so they'll just believe whatever they heard most recently, and the TV is likely going to "talk" to them far more than you can.

my dad posted:

the above remains valid, victory draws closer

The Oldest Man posted:

the country with all the slaves keeps growing in population - why? King Slavetaker the Grotesque sat down with me over brunch and explained his fifteen point plan for national development

iCe-CuBe. posted:

How do I get paid to run interference for Israel? I would be pretty good at it I think. My resume is I read a lot of wikipedia articles and get really freaked out by African mercenaries for not raicst reasons

Punkin Spunkin posted:

Dan Carlin has always pretty much just been History Channel dad/pop military history bullshit (with all the same horrible politics), just sometimes wowing people by not always talking about WW2. Ninja, pirates, vikings, greatest warrior poo poo. Wow this Genghis Khan guy isn't as interesting as Nazi tanks but I'm intrigued!
I do remember enjoying the episode on the Munster anabaptist Rebellion back when I listened to his show 1000 years ago cuz I hadn't heard of that (and it seemed well researched on a topic I didn't have access to many sources about). I shudder to think what he or the Revolutions Podcast guy currently think about, well, basically anything.

Hedenius posted:

I saw a clip on Twitter of drone footage of a Hamas fighter having been shot by the IDF and dying after attempting to run away for a while. I won't link it for obvious reasons but it was apparently posted by the Israelis and it's insane how bad they are at propaganda. The guy is shot and bleeding heavily. He's running away but finally collapses against a wall, raises his finger in defiance and starts praying until he dies posed as if he is still praying towards Mecca.

How can you be in charge of Israeli propaganda and post a video showing your enemy dying in the most brave and dignified way possible? "Look at this guy with his unshakable faith as he's bravely staring death in the face!"

Smug Mug posted:

Dan Carlin’s politics would probably make a good thread. my theory is that when he inadvertently brainwashes himself while reading sources to prepare each episode, being so agog with the scale of the historic event that he forgets to make any moral judgment.

Lostconfused posted:

The whole theme of his series on mongols was that you shouldn't remove morality from historical events.

Al-Saqr posted:

https://x.com/tastefullysaucy/status/1740294911310880827?s=46

Ghost Leviathan posted:

I suddenly had a realisation how much 'war on terror' rhetoric basically ends up being exactly the same poo poo as 'tough on crime', and similarly results in confusion when methods that aren't actually supposed to do anything but brutalise nonwhite people don't do what they were advertised as doing. Like a snake oil salesman trying to cure themselves with their own supply.

Ytlaya posted:

The lack of any ideological grounding basically means that most people will believe anything they hear "a smart/trustworthy-sounding person" say, with what constitutes "smart/trustworthy" depending on their cultural preferences. And why wouldn't they? They don't have any clearly articulated beliefs guiding them, so of course they'll believe anything that "sounds like it makes sense."

This is actually why, even though it might sometimes seem like you're making progress talking to some "normie" in your life, in reality you probably aren't. They think what you're saying makes sense, and maybe they even believe you! But they'll also think what the TV/newspaper/etc makes sense next time they're exposed to it, even if it directly contradicts whatever you said. They don't have any consistent set of beliefs, so they'll just believe whatever they heard most recently, and the TV is likely going to "talk" to them far more than you can.

WoodrowSkillson posted:

Mike Duncan retweeted some article on like oct 10th that said "Isreal is bad but should exist, palestine should be free but hamas is bad" which is pretty loving braindead but is now retweeting this

https://x.com/mikeduncan/status/1738616417560170557?s=20

so he is significantly better relative to Dan Carlin and is better than the average lib but i would not like, look to him for any kind of current events correctness. he at least is not supporting genocide which is a step above many loving libs

DTA DTI Free Palestine

fits my needs posted:

like listening to him sucking off the whites in the russian civil war was pretty lol too.

punishedkissinger posted:

youre a loving morong if you believe he did this tbh

Al-Saqr posted:

lol western media are all satan worshipping devil nazis

https://x.com/Seamus_Malek/status/1741017992794865982?s=20

punishedkissinger posted:

youre a loving morong if you believe he did this tbh

Regarde Aduck posted:

cool, just journalists asking, pleading, for more death. Just casually demanding war upon a people. Like are they aware of what they ask? That the people that die are real people with families and all that poo poo?

Some dumb loving nerd in an office crying that the deaths are not high enough yet, how can we set even more of the region on fire.

punishedkissinger posted:

youre a loving morong if you believe he did this tbh

lobotomy molo posted:

the other part (kornilov) was in episode 10.70. I don’t have a transcript handy, but a brief summary:
-kornilov was a patriot who loved russia, not some right-wing psycho. very favorable portrayal.
-the whole thing was just a big miscommunication with yakety sax playing in the background, not an attempted right-wing coup.
-sure an aide to kornilov said they’d seize power and off kerensky once he wasn’t useful any more, but that doesn’t seem likely and the aide was probably just talking poo poo
-kornilov didn’t really have his heart in it and his forces just kind of stopped. barely any mention of the Bolsheviks’ role in stopping his advance on St. Petersburg, they’re just a footnote

it’s just weird. like a switch flipped at episode ~50 and he went from relatively sympathetic portrayal of the bolsheviks to just ignoring all their victories and successes and ragging on them 24/7. another high point was when said they were basically just as antisemitic as any other side in the russian civil war, that was episode 10.87 iirc

quote:

around 32:00 of episode 10.84 - The End of the World

quote:

Now, I don't wanna underestimate Allied support for the Whites - they absolutely did pump supplies and guns to the White armies, but with the benefit of hindsight we know that the Allied interventions into Russia were never gonna be as wholehearted as any of the Russians expected.

In the winter of 1918 and 1919, the Allies had far bigger issues on their plate. The civil war in Russia was just not a high priority. Now it is the case that there were small groups out there, in France and in Britain and the United States, people like Winston Churchill for example, who really were pushing for an immediate all-out attack on Bolshevism, but they were in the minority.

At least as many British, French and American leaders liked and supported the idea of the Soviet socialist republics as they appeared in 1917 and 1918, certainly they much preferred the socialist reds to the reactionary whites, who no doubt intended to restore barbarous absolutism.

Mostly though, both the general populations and ruling classes of Britain, and France and the United States just did not have Russia very high on their list of interests. Everyone was sick of war, sick of fighting, sick of being trapped in destructive quagmires. The unrestrained jubilation that marked the end of World War 1 meant that it was going to be very tough to say "oh yeah, glad the war with Germany is over, now we're gonna plunge into the middle of the Russian civil war," so as we go forward we are never going to see the Allies make the kind of major commitments both sides of the Russian civil war expected them to make.

The expeditionary forces they landed in 1918 around the periphery tended to just stay put and not grow. There were some naval blockades, definitely major shipments of munitions, but the Allies were not, in fact, hell-bent on destroying Bolshevism. And they were absolutely ready to cut the cord if it looked like destroying Bolshevism was going to require them to get sucked even deeper into the Russian civil war.

gradenko_2000 posted:

gradenko_2000 posted:

i say swears online posted:

if you think about it, gannon was trying to stop a monarchy from enacting the triangular trade