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The Slack Lagoon posted:I had an outlet but since it was outside I had it swapped to hardwired. Harder for it to walk away that way, too. I meant the type where the EVSE is hard wired and attached to the wall, but instead of having a tethered cable it has a Type 2 socket. The same setup you'd see at a public AC charger in Europe. 
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The Slack Lagoon posted:I had an outlet but since it was outside I had it swapped to hardwired. Harder for it to walk away that way, too. Isn’t any to code outdoor 240 outlet going to have a locking door?
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dissss posted:I meant the type where the EVSE is hard wired and attached to the wall, but instead of having a tethered cable it has a Type 2 socket. The same setup you'd see at a public AC charger in Europe. Is an electric shower like a bunch of lightning spraying all over you? 
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Dec 30, 2023 04:17
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These kinda horrifying things which are quite popular in the UK
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That’s a shower.
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dissss posted:These kinda horrifying things which are quite popular in the UK
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Three Olives posted:Isn’t any to code outdoor 240 outlet going to have a locking door? Sure but the outlet that was installed by the PO was pretty flimsy plastic.
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Vegetable posted:Half the world uses these things Half the world doesn’t have clean drinking water, the UK is yet to master safe indoor plumbing.
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dissss posted:These kinda horrifying things which are quite popular in the UK that makes sense. it's a country that thinks a bread sandwich is more delicious than any american food
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Lady Radia posted:that makes sense. it's a country that thinks a bread sandwich is more delicious than any american food is that not just a loaf of bread
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QuarkJets posted:is that not just a loaf of bread no, of course not. you see, the bread in the middle of the two other slices, is relatively harder. either by toasting or perhaps by simply exposing to open air. you see, this is Cuisine. not like that curry that's way too hot
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Adventures in electric car ownership. I tried using the L1 charger that the car comes with to charge in the garage just to see what would happen. Am I doing something terribly wrong with my L1 charger? I started at 74%, and I swear that other L1 chargers I've used go at least a little faster. Or are all L1 chargers not the same, and whatever box that BMW gave me with the car doesn't charge as fast as other L1 chargers? The car is set to charge at "unlimited" current limit for AC charging too. In all reality at the rate it was charging, going overnight would be enough for the daily expected trips so I'm not terribly worried quite yet.
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Most OEM units are 12A, though I thought some are 8A. Some aftermarket ones are 16A even though that's not code legal.
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Kia Soul Enthusias posted:Most OEM units are 12A, though I thought some are 8A. Some aftermarket ones are 16A even though that's not code legal. My i3 could adjust current draw, I think down to 4A.
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L1 charging operates at 120 volts, on a 15 amp circuit, the electrical code allows pulling 80% of max for continuous loads, so 12 amps. That’s 1.4kw. I have a 20 amp circuit, and the correct plug on my EVSE allows me to pull 16 amps, or 1.9kw. If you’ve used a non fast charger elsewhere, it was likely a L2 charger operating at 208/240 volts likely delivering something between 4 and 9 kw. ….Wait, you’re at 74% and it’s still saying 40 hours to charge? Is climate control still on or something?
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Oh yeah, I should have said, if you do use the correct plug, 16A is legal. Just that most I've seen aren't Nema 5-20 plugs. Tesla does have a 5-20 adapter at least
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Kia Soul Enthusias posted:Most OEM units are 12A, though I thought some are 8A. Some aftermarket ones are 16A even though that's not code legal. Yeah, a 16A EVSE would be fine with a NEMA 5-20P (the one where the grounded/neutral blade is 90⁰ to the line blade). Lol, that's absolutely not what's happening though, and there's a surprising amount of dodgy devices you can get that will draw more than 15A off a 1/5-15P. It'd be cool to see more small 15 and 20A 240 outlets scattered around, since the install cost should be* the same as a 120V plug for twice the power, not just for EVSEs either, lots of kitchen, bathroom, and outdoor appliances would be better served running off of 240V** and there's no technical reason for them not to except market inertia. *as of now, it's more expensive, because of a stupid code change from about 15 years ago that doesn't allow you to re-identify small (<#6 iirc) ground potential conductors as line conductors (i.e. wrap a bit of black/blue/red electrical tape around the wire), and no one makes, say black/red non metallic cable right now, so you'd have to use more expensive 14/3 12/3 instead of 14/2 or 12/2. **literally everything would be, gently caress you Edison. E/F/B
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My Leaf's EVSE limited current to 5A when it detected a voltage drop from one of my relatives' ancient garage wiring when drawing full power. That may be a cause for very slow charging, but I don't know what your garage wiring looks like.
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kimcicle posted:Adventures in electric car ownership. I tried using the L1 charger that the car comes with to charge in the garage just to see what would happen. The time to go 0-80 is sometimes shorter than to go 81-100 so that's one issue, plus the charger might follow stuff like IRVE rules(which only allow a limited time at full power, then going to the lowest power setting) if it's meant to be sold in europe. L1 is usually an emergency charging level, to give you just enough to find your destination charger or a public fast/hyper fast one. 30% charge is something that takes hours on a public fast running at 11kW, so running it at 2kW would realistically take that amount. iX had a honking big battery if i remember right. GATOS Y VATOS posted:Is an electric shower like a bunch of lightning spraying all over you? It's a itty bitty electric boiler integrated in the shower pump, you provide tap water and the kit will warm it and pump it out on the shower head. Only saw it in caravans really. SlowBloke fucked around with this message at 10:32 on Dec 30, 2023 |
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iX has a 111kW battery, 8A @ 120V is .960 kW, times 90% charger efficiency, 74%->100% is 33 hours, so 40ish would be feasible if there's a hundred watts or so of parasitic drain when charging. Didn't expect that as small battery crew, to be honest.
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SlowBloke posted:Italy just ratified a new set of cash for clunkers incentives, for BEVs we are moving from a flat 5000€ to a 9000-11000€ window plus extra 1250€ if you fit in low income brackets. If I waited four months more i could have got 4k€ extra. Must be nice. Germany was supposed to fade out the incentives over time with them stopping at the end of 2024. Now they announced on the 13th December that all incentives stop on the 17th. Everyone who ordered a car that gets delivered after that is out of luck and pays a couple thousand euros more. At least most manufacturers have announced that they cover the additional costs for cars that are ordered till the end of 2023...
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Shai-Hulud posted:Must be nice. Germany was supposed to fade out the incentives over time with them stopping at the end of 2024. That's a bit of a dick move really. Given how expensive a BEV is, you cannot expect people to buy one with a slow economy as it is now. My Avenger costed me two full years of pay and a lot of families cannot afford that level of savings. Make it as a tax bonus over time if you don't want to do a flat out discount at the dealer but don't remove it. Given how chuds are now getting involved in european media, i bet german fb was full of "thank god" comments to the incentives getting slashed right?
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Germany's lip service to actual track record on decarbonization ratio is pathetic.
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SlowBloke posted:That's a bit of a dick move really. Given how expensive a BEV is, you cannot expect people to buy one with a slow economy as it is now. My Avenger costed me two full years of pay and a lot of families cannot afford that level of savings. Make it as a tax bonus over time if you don't want to do a flat out discount at the dealer but don't remove it. Bit of a dick move is a nice way of putting it. They announced on a wednesday that the coming Monday is the cutoff. And it's not like you could have quickly ordered a car to still get the money. To get the incentives you actually need to have the car and not just the order. I don't have a FB account anymore but seeing as all the chuds here are wanking themselves raw over gods own fuel (Diesel) I imagine they are really happy about the stopped incentives. They also don't seem to realize that Diesel is heavily subsidized...
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That kind of people gives zero fucks about being right, just to beat and make others miserable. Every fuel is incentivized in some way, be it petrol, diesel, methane, gpl or hydrogen. Getting all puffy because a type of vehicle that doesn't cover cities in soot but isn't made for them (they want loud, smoky and above all old) has incentives is their usual M.O.
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My wifes uncle ordered a new Lyriq back in the spring and it's finally due to be delivered next week. That means he wants to sell his 2022 Mach E (fully loaded Premium, AWD, extended range). I wasn't quite ready to buy an EV, but it's basically brand new (9K Kms/5600miles) and it truly show room condition and Mrs might be on board. He is asking too much for it publicly, but I'm pretty sure I could get him down to a fair market price. Other than potentially infotainment stuff, has Ford succumbed to the subscription virus for usable car features? Or is what it was built/bought with going to carry over if we go this route? Anything else I need to know about the Mach E? I presume they're quite reliable?
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Dang none of you got the obvious joke about the electric shower  That kind of stuff is more common in Japan though, but baths in stead of showers. 
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Thanks everybody for the info; we should be able to get along with free EA charging and trickle charging on the 120v for now, but I guess getting a 240v plug in the garage is in the very near future for me.
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I was surprised that Japan had a lot of digital panel control for point of use natural gas heated fixtures. Which sorta kinda makes sense since they have 120v household and Euro has 240
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ID.4 crew: do your windows sometimes … go down when you want them to go up? Unsure if this is a thing to go to the dealership about. Like, it started raining. Windows up! … no no no, not that way. No, UP. WHAT. WHY. UP! Thank you.
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:ID.4 crew: do your windows sometimes … go down when you want them to go up? Unsure if this is a thing to go to the dealership about. That is how they were programmed by VW. It is loving insane, I've almost lost my poo poo trying to roll the window up, and having it roll all the gently caress the way down, blasting me in the face with wind and rain.
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slidebite posted:My wifes uncle ordered a new Lyriq back in the spring and it's finally due to be delivered next week. That means he wants to sell his 2022 Mach E (fully loaded Premium, AWD, extended range). The Mach-E is a great car that suffers from people being really angry about it being called a Mustang and being mad/not understanding that Ford is purposefully trying to reposition the brand because it was their strongest piece of ID/IP to launch a complete different kind of car on. The performance variant was not a great choice though. Only thing major that is subscription is handsfree cruise control. I think Ford made the right decision, they knew they were targeting middle aged people with at least a household income of $100k, found that those people wanted a crossover SUV and asked what Ford brand they had the most affinity for. I joking refer to mine as my "mid-life crisis", I wanted something super practical and whatever you think of it being a "Mustang", the styling is fun. Three Olives fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Dec 31, 2023 |
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:ID.4 crew: do your windows sometimes … go down when you want them to go up? Unsure if this is a thing to go to the dealership about. Yeah.
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I am just happy to have a car again where I can put the windows up or down using the keyfob. Just a really handy feature.
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:ID.4 crew: do your windows sometimes … go down when you want them to go up? Unsure if this is a thing to go to the dealership about. This thread mentions having to re-calibrate the windows, especially after the 12v system has been disconnected? https://www.vwidtalk.com/threads/window-goes-down-instead-of-up.9641/ quote:Thats pinch protection kicking in.
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:ID.4 crew: do your windows sometimes … go down when you want them to go up? Unsure if this is a thing to go to the dealership about. This has never happened to me in our id.4
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Squibbles posted:This thread mentions having to re-calibrate the windows, especially after the 12v system has been disconnected? https://www.vwidtalk.com/threads/window-goes-down-instead-of-up.9641/ Elviscat posted:It is loving insane, I've almost lost my poo poo trying to roll the window up, and having it roll all the gently caress the way down, blasting me in the face with wind and rain.
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slidebite posted:My wifes uncle ordered a new Lyriq back in the spring and it's finally due to be delivered next week. That means he wants to sell his 2022 Mach E (fully loaded Premium, AWD, extended range). We bought a Mustang Mach E Premium 2023 RWD about a month ago. Seems like a great car so far; getting the expected range, power, handling, utility. The quality of the interior is much better than my RAV4 Prime. Infotainment costs seem just related to BlueCruise. Evil Robot fucked around with this message at 11:11 on Dec 31, 2023 |
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Bluecruise is when you go cruising on blue chews
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