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Strongbox feels like a waste until you get a cracked piece that you need. My Itto was entirely geared that way and one of my best CRate hats came from that - one that would have sucked up a TON or resin had I grinded for it. Resin is a lot more valuable than artifact xp imo. Hitting up the new domains like March/Troupe will have you end up with a lot of purps to feed into artifacts anyway. And there will always be something I can improve on whether it’s looking for the illusive cracked VV EM pieces, or upgrade TF pieces for Keqing to use etc. just looking at stuff like my Glad pieces, which I got passively over three+ years my stats on those are way better generally than the pieces I grind for because I’ve just gotten so many more of them. The strongbox gives something similar where you get to keep rolling the dice for god rolls instead of spending resin on old domains.
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I do the artifact run every day, so my experience is also out of the norm. I always have way more artifact exp to invest in new artifacts than good artifacts I want to raise. Any by "want to raise" I mean, artifacts that are going on characters I am actively building. They Crit Rate/ Crit DMG/ ATK% Wanderer's troupe flower may be too good to just throw into the recycler, but as long as you keep getting new characters, it'll probably never make it into your priorities on stuff you want to raise. At least not as much as the next character you want to outfit with Emblem of Severed Fate, Noblesse Oblige, Tenacity of the Millileth, or the VV set.
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I must not run artifact domains that much because I'm constantly in need of more artifact xp. I'm usually completely out of trash artifacts to burn and often need to run domains just to get more xp. I have never strongboxed and never felt the need for it.
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i mean it's basically proportional to your standards. actually-good artifacts are insanely rare. if you're grinding domains hard enough to get good pieces, then the proportion of keepers : runs is very low, and you'll have plenty of XP. conversely, if you settle for crap (but still want to develop a lot of characters) you're going to have tons of candidates but not much XP.
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Endorph posted:my favorite thing about sara is that there's a generic npc kujou clan member who is in raiden, kazuha, *and* ayato's story quests, and sara is mentioned in none of them lol poo poo you're right
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:i mean it's basically proportional to your standards. actually-good artifacts are insanely rare. if you're grinding domains hard enough to get good pieces, then the proportion of keepers : runs is very low, and you'll have plenty of XP. conversely, if you settle for crap (but still want to develop a lot of characters) you're going to have tons of candidates but not much XP. The other issue over time is you get really good wanderer’s and glad pieces, and farming a new domain like Navia’s it can be hard to beat your old pieces even if they aren’t optimal. The kinds of pieces you can get passively collecting artifacts over three years, given how rare they can be, are hard to match in a shorter time from a new domain. So it’s ends up with a lot of trash/recycling unless it’s a set that has a really strong bonus, can be run 2pc or is niche for a certain character where glad or wanderers aren’t even that usable (like Neuvi, Furina etc).
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Endorph posted:my favorite thing about sara is that there's a generic npc kujou clan member who is in raiden, kazuha, *and* ayato's story quests, and sara is mentioned in none of them Sara was off doing the important work of not quite negotiating a peace treaty with Watatsumi Island.
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I should get a free Lyney for doing the one thousand hours of this stupid trial in Fontaine
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Chernobyl Peace Prize posted:I should get a free Lyney for doing the one thousand hours of this stupid trial in Fontaine If you think it's bad now, wait until you get to the Bastille
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RareAcumen posted:I have to swap Golden Troupe pieces around because I don't have enough yet since I'm still using Furina but I don't think I'll ever get a better feather than this. You just have to get lucky. This is the set I got within 2 weeks of 4.0 launch. It’s a huge upgrade over my old 2pc2pc.  I wasn’t interested in Lyney, so I sunk all my resin into improving Fischl and Neuv/Furina prep. Peanut3141 fucked around with this message at 04:06 on Jan 1, 2024 |
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I stopped mulching 5* artifacts when recycling came out because I was getting really good VV and thundering fury artifacts. Then Fontaine released and they added emblem of severed fate to the recycle list so I've been recycling everything into that. My slightly cursed Raiden has been using an ATK circlet for 2+ years but the curse remains. Raiden and her eternal quest for
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Peanut3141 posted:You just have to get lucky. This is the set I got within 2 weeks of 4.0 launch. It’s a huge upgrade over my old 2pc2pc. My bad, I didn't explain myself well enough. I have Golden Troupe stuff but because I'm currently using Furina I don't have enough for Fischl right now. I just posted that because I don't think I'm ever getting a better feather than that. I think that's the best artifact I've got.
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RareAcumen posted:My bad, I didn't explain myself well enough. I have Golden Troupe stuff but because I'm currently using Furina I don't have enough for Fischl right now. I just posted that because I don't think I'm ever getting a better feather than that. I think that's the best artifact I've got. I didn’t find that Fischl and Furina competed very hard for GT pieces, as one is an ATK scaler and the other is pure HP scaling. Add in the fact that Furina needs far more ER than Fischl and the pieces they both value are pretty rare. Unless you’re drowning in CV only pieces, the other two rolls customize them to one or the other pretty cleanly. If you’re feeling saucy, you can set aside the crit + DEF drops for Albedo.
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Wait, there's a giant whale in Fontaine? I was joking about this being Re:Zero.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Wait, there's a giant whale in Fontaine? I was joking about this being Re:Zero. Genshin is actually every anime, it's just not always immediately apparent in each instance of this phenomenon.
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Peanut3141 posted:If you’re feeling saucy, you can set aside the crit + DEF drops for Albedo. I've been on the lookout for these because I'm using Al with Navia and even DEF pieces with good CV have been rare.
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I expected this Abyss rotation to really suck, but it wasn't terrible. It's worth taking more time on the Perpetual Mechanical Array to build a team for the Hydro Tulpa later, as it's not too difficult to do the back half of each chamber quickly. The Tulpa is a big beefy boy who is a Dark Souls boss with Abyss stats, either come in shielded or learn his tells or you will get pasted by his attacks. I found Aggravate worked fine as it's okay against the PMA and turns into Hyperbloom against the Tulpa and shreds him pretty fast. That said if you use a shielder using Zhongli on the other side might be better because there are some Geo Slimes and he saves a ton of time deleting their shields. I suspect that side is designed for Chevreuse (like the front half is for Navia) and the intent was that you would Overload them, but whatever.
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Since I'd have looked like a genius if I'd written my prediction for Cloud Retainer's kit down, here's the kind of thing I'm hoping to see out of Chiori: an EM-scaling support who uses Crystallize to "clothe" (buff) your team in different ways depending on which "colours" (elements) you use. Her skill could be something like a 100% uptime buff that doesn't do anything on its own, but collecting a Crystallize shard refreshes its duration and adds a party-wide buff based on the shard's element: presumably something like damage for Pyro, ER for Electro, crit damage for Cryo, and a HoT for Hydro. (That would mean it keeps refreshing itself and providing every buff you've collected so far as long as you keep picking up shards of any element. Outside of Navia teams, I think getting a Crystallize of each of your elements is a big enough ask that it's okay if you only have to do it once per fight.) The base buff could also have other helpful effects like automatically sucking in Crystallize shards, giving Chiori an infusion, or basing your other units' Crystallize on her EM so her sustain doesn't nonbo horribly with other Geo units. These are all good candidates for ascension passives. I have a very specific hope for her burst, which is that it's just an EM-scaling version of Bennett's, without the 70% HP cap or making you play Circle Impact. Maybe it could also buff DEF to combo better with the other Geo units who care about that. Now you might think that an EM-scaler in Geo sounds a lot like a shielder, which risks muscling in on Zhongli's turf. But don't worry: even with 1,000 EM, Crystallize shields do bugger all unless they're against the same element. So really this is just a buffing and healing kit with some shielding on the side.
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EM Geo is something I think they will do just to drive people who threw out great Geo EM artifacts for the past three years insane.
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Speaking of seemingly useless artifacts, in farming for Navia's set I've built up a pretty good set of ER/crit pieces on the accompanying healing/support set. Is there any character who actually wants this, especially as an invested support?
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Speaking of seemingly useless artifacts, in farming for Navia's set I've built up a pretty good set of ER/crit pieces on the accompanying healing/support set. Is there any character who actually wants this, especially as an invested support? Ironically, Pneuma Furina. She's perfect for it, other than the part about needing to run Furina in Pneuma instead of the mode that actually does damage and generates energy. EDIT EDIT: There's probably some two or three Dendro scenario where someone other than Baizhu/Yaoyao are already handling Deepwood Memories, which would free them up to use Song of Days Past. It competes with Instructor though. I guess it offers much better stats than Instructor since it's a 5* set, but that's still not great if we're putting it in contention with Instructor. Nakar fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Jan 1, 2024 |
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Interesting; thank you.
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Nakar posted:I expected this Abyss rotation to really suck, but it wasn't terrible. It's worth taking more time on the Perpetual Mechanical Array to build a team for the Hydro Tulpa later, as it's not too difficult to do the back half of each chamber quickly. The Tulpa is a big beefy boy who is a Dark Souls boss with Abyss stats, either come in shielded or learn his tells or you will get pasted by his attacks. I found Aggravate worked fine as it's okay against the PMA and turns into Hyperbloom against the Tulpa and shreds him pretty fast. Rational killed the Tulpa pretty quickly. Was happy to have a chance to get out my Hu Tao for the single-target second halves. Easy abyss overall I think, since it's tuned for Navia's geo teams.
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Okay, I've made some effort to progress through the Archon quest (wrapped up the trial, learned some more about Navia's dad), but I got sidetracked and couldn't get in the mood to do more. How much is the current event going to spoil for me? Are we talking like the end of the Archon quest?
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Yep, sorry. There are some pretty significant events in the last section of the Archon quest and the event references them.
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Shinji2015 posted:Okay, I've made some effort to progress through the Archon quest (wrapped up the trial, learned some more about Navia's dad), but I got sidetracked and couldn't get in the mood to do more. How much is the current event going to spoil for me? Are we talking like the end of the Archon quest? I am through the next part of the archon quest after where you are. I think it was really enjoyable, and if the end of it is as good as what I played for the first couple arcs then it sucks to have had the spoilers I read in the event because I actively tried to avoid spoilers up until then only for the game itself to put it in a loving character bio lol That said, if you start the event and DO NOT read the Furina’s bio/summary that appears on the screen (I forget if other characters have spoilers) and blow past all the introductory dialogue - then you can finish the first part to open up the mini games. I don’t know about later parts of the quests (I stopped at part 3 iirc) but there were no real spoilers once the filming started that I remember. In fact once you see the Inazuma visitors arrive I don’t remember any spoiler after there on so you could read it after they sail on in. Though if someone else could confirm that is safe, I would appreciate it because I might be forgetting something. That way you can finish the mini games to get the currency/rewards and clear out the event shop and get the event weapon while still taking your time on the archon quests. The spoilers tell you significant stuff about the end of the archon quest so the only other alternative is blitzing the quests before you do the event, which would be pretty brutal (for me at least). You would only be missing out on the primos from the subsequent parts of the event story (though there might not be any more spoilers after the first part; idk because I didn’t finish them yet).
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:if you're grinding domains hard enough to get good pieces, then the proportion of keepers : runs is very low, and you'll have plenty of XP. conversely, if you settle for crap (but still want to develop a lot of characters) you're going to have tons of candidates but not much XP. Type B is eventually going to turn into Type A anyway, since the gulf between usable and good is massive. Just going through your resin every day generates a mountain of trash and good enough stops being good enough. I guess if you don't play frequently then the resin rots and you really don't have enough to upgrade, but in that case I suspect your standards aren't particularly high. Also it seems I'm the weirdo for stopping when it hits a bad upgrade instead of open palm slamming everything to 20 then complaining about rolling DEF five times.
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Mailer posted:Also it seems I'm the weirdo for stopping when it hits a bad upgrade instead of open palm slamming everything to 20 then complaining about rolling DEF five times. Nah, at this point I’ll roll til +4 or +8 depending on the piece and then it becomes food for other artifact gambling.
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I guess my standards are way lower than I thought and I settle for crap lol. If I get the right mainstat and 2-3 good substats, I'll take it to +16 no matter how they roll, or +20 if at least a couple substat rolls go in the right places. I only take pieces to +4 or +8 to check substat rolls if I have multiple decent options at that moment and I'm trying to decide which to use. Once I have +16s/+20s all filled in, I'll decide if I care enough to try to replace the +16 pieces with better ones or just take them to +20 and not bother with more artifact grinding. I often won't bother, because even getting to that point is usually pushing the limit of my desire to grind artifacts. But I don't particularly care about the abyss. I sometimes do one run through to see how far I get, and that's that. My character building goals in genshin usually revolve around playing around with new characters or different team comps, so I'm always more interested in getting new characters leveled than getting old ones a little more optimized. Most of my resin goes into things other than artifacts. Only in lull times when I have no new characters to level do I sometimes try to get better pieces. But those are also often times I take breaks from genshin to play other games.
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Navia feels like a loving God in this abyss lol
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The floor 12 hydro tulpa is supposed to have 3 million HP but it did not feel that sturdy. Is there a mechanic I'm not understanding? Or is abusing nahida vs a hydro infused enemy just that strong? (I used Cyno Beidou Nahida Baizhu)
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No Wave posted:The floor 12 hydro tulpa is supposed to have 3 million HP but it did not feel that sturdy. Is there a mechanic I'm not understanding? Or is abusing nahida vs a hydro infused enemy just that strong? (I used Cyno Beidou Nahida Baizhu) So he's got a ton of HP and hits really hard but he's got paper-thin defenses and is permanently infused with the best element in the entire game for enabling high damage reactions. I'd say he melts easily, but that's the one high damage reaction you can't inflict on him. 
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rio posted:Navia feels like a loving God in this abyss lol Navias great but I hate every member of her team except her lol Throwing in my lot with that Chiori crystal support healer someone posted a bit ago. Where "my lot" would be, like, that "manifesting" thing people do (very powerful). That would free up the slots taken by Zhong and Benny, leaving room for...? None of off-field pyros do anything here and Xiangling needs even more energy now  Ah, I see. Arlechinno will be the Yelan of pyro! Then Pyro archon will be, the Furina of pyro! Everyone will be sad, except me
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"Things are about to get dicey!" -Arlecchino (it's not unoriginal because the pun is different)
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MoonCrab posted:Ah, I see. Arlechinno will be the Yelan of pyro! Then Pyro archon will be, the Furina of pyro! Everyone will be sad, except me Not just you, I said basically this weeks ago. Then the whole thread got mad and called me homophobic.
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It strikes me as comedic exaggeration.
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MoonCrab posted:Navias great but I hate every member of her team except her lol I went into this abyss with Navia/Geo MC/Kokomi/Yae as my Navia team using ok-ish artifacts, free/standard banner weapons, no cons on anyone except GMC, and a rotation that boiled down to "just press stuff whenever, I guess". First time ever even seeing hydro tulpa. Easily 36-starred first try. Felt like it did pretty well. You don't have to run Benny/Xiangling. I refuse to use either of them for any team at this point.
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