Frosted Flake posted:

For something to have 24 hour coverage it would have to be in an orbit that is very far away. That would make it harder to see things, for a bunch of science reasons that I don't really understand but never had to concern myself with because satellite intel is not part of brigade level artillery operations. There appear to be fewer satellites that far away, they have to be specially positioned over the location in mind, and they can only do certain things, I guess.

gradenko_2000 posted:

avoiding satellite recon, past a certain point, is a game of misdirection rather than evading direct observation - you can't stop the enemy from knowing where you are, but you can keep them guessing as to what you're planning to do with the things that they can see

Frosted Flake posted:

lol I feel like I'm going to get a nosebleed every time this comes up but the belief was that Russia could not ever get their hands on things that were produced:

- In factories in Russia owned by Western companies

and

- Produced in Russia's closest ally on behalf of Western companies

because? Why?

When you read about colonial attempts to prevent unlicensed traders from giving steel weapons, tools and guns to the Iroquois and Maori, there was a realization that this was basically unworkable pretty early on. In this instance the Maori make the guns and the idk Tuscarora are home to the entire Sheffield cutlery industry (which had been outsourced to cut costs), but the colonial authorities really think they're able to keep those under lock and key?

Frosted Flake posted:

For something to have 24 hour coverage it would have to be in an orbit that is very far away. That would make it harder to see things, for a bunch of science reasons that I don't really understand but never had to concern myself with because satellite intel is not part of brigade level artillery operations. There appear to be fewer satellites that far away, they have to be specially positioned over the location in mind, and they can only do certain things, I guess.

Danann posted:

https://twitter.com/philippilk/status/1742135590798209094

"Russia is importing X from China" might as well be free space on the bingo card at this point.

dead gay comedy forums posted:

lmao.

just ocurred to me that this was Lenin's best case scenario - a friendly socialist power to link with and provide capital development to the USSR. lmao that putin is the one that got this chance

Frosted Flake posted:

So would it be fair to think they believe that the difference between their present circumstances and the Qing dynasty being devastated by the advent of Meissen porcelain is that they own the factories in Dresden?

So it’s not that a geopolitical rival discovered the secret of their most valuable industries and so will control production of them, actually they sent the factories and plans over there, but by owning the profits from those factories they own the thing itself? Or something?

Like, if this came up in their MBAs, they thought it was silly of the Qing to not open up porcelain factories in Europe themselves?

mawarannahr posted:

have they always used "comrade" since the fall?

gradenko_2000 posted:

dead gay comedy forums posted:

no idea, but I don't think this is something that is "good" just because

what seems to me as the hopeful scenario is that this provides a break of opportunity in historical terms -- trying to subvert communist ideology into chauvinism means that it looks right back at Putin in the eye. It doesn't seem that the Russian party has shook all the bureaucratic/careerist/Gorbachevite old fucks out of it, looking from far away, but one can hope that the young bolsheviks can seize whatever chances come out of it.

It's just a hunch from the little I can glean out of that dynamic, but Putin seems more cautious to deal with the Communist opposition rather than just going lol gently caress you like at Navalny or other liberal elements - that's why I said the ideology stares back. If he wants to use the USSR as "actually we could consider it a Great-Russian feat", to employ it's symbolic representation to chauvinist means, it becomes a contradiction in reaction - a "nostalgia for revolution" that subverts the original intention. The reason for it being is that the USSR was greater than the Empire in the absolute sense, which leaves the Russian reactionary in this poor position. It's a very, very interesting historical situation I think

Soapy_Bumslap posted:

Dialectics means communism is the crab of socio-economic systems

euphronius posted:

oh I don’t occur to me the spy satellites don’t have 24/7 coverage

dead gay comedy forums posted:

lmao.

just ocurred to me that this was Lenin's best case scenario - a friendly socialist power to link with and provide capital development to the USSR. lmao that putin is the one that got this chance

gradenko_2000 posted:

gradenko_2000 posted:

political bits you're workshopping:

https://twitter.com/aussiecossack/status/1742382330801791414

dead gay comedy forums posted:

from the little I have learned it seems that for an actual socialist new phase Lukashenko would be a far more truer believer and thus better choice as a leader lmao

crepeface posted:

https://twitter.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1742199109996392852?s=20

fkn goofball swastika lmao

dead gay comedy forums posted:

no idea, but I don't think this is something that is "good" just because

what seems to me as the hopeful scenario is that this provides a break of opportunity in historical terms -- trying to subvert communist ideology into chauvinism means that it looks right back at Putin in the eye. It doesn't seem that the Russian party has shook all the bureaucratic/careerist/Gorbachevite old fucks out of it, looking from far away, but one can hope that the young bolsheviks can seize whatever chances come out of it.

It's just a hunch from the little I can glean out of that dynamic, but Putin seems more cautious to deal with the Communist opposition rather than just going lol gently caress you like at Navalny or other liberal elements - that's why I said the ideology stares back. If he wants to use the USSR as "actually we could consider it a Great-Russian feat", to employ it's symbolic representation to chauvinist means, it becomes a contradiction in reaction - a "nostalgia for revolution" that subverts the original intention. The reason for it being is that the USSR was greater than the Empire in the absolute sense, which leaves the Russian reactionary in this poor position. It's a very, very interesting historical situation I think

iCe-CuBe. posted:

Nice try, Russian bot. You really think we will accept RT as a source? Why dont you use a credible source like RFA or the BBC? Putler doesnt pay you for those?

Frosted Flake posted:

lol I feel like I'm going to get a nosebleed every time this comes up but the belief was that Russia could not ever get their hands on things that were produced:

- In factories in Russia owned by Western companies

and

- Produced in Russia's closest ally on behalf of Western companies

because? Why?

When you read about colonial attempts to prevent unlicensed traders from giving steel weapons, tools and guns to the Iroquois and Maori, there was a realization that this was basically unworkable pretty early on. In this instance the Maori make the guns and the idk Tuscarora are home to the entire Sheffield cutlery industry (which had been outsourced to cut costs), but the colonial authorities really think they're able to keep those under lock and key?

Frosted Flake posted:

So would it be fair to think they believe that the difference between their present circumstances and the Qing dynasty being devastated by the advent of Meissen porcelain is that they own the factories in Dresden?

So it’s not that a geopolitical rival discovered the secret of their most valuable industries and so will control production of them, actually they sent the factories and plans over there, but by owning the profits from those factories they own the thing itself? Or something?

Like, if this came up in their MBAs, they thought it was silly of the Qing to not open up porcelain factories in Europe themselves?

supersnowman posted:

In the rule based world order, nobody would dare building poo poo if it isn't to the absolute benefit of the western shareholder.

That's probably what they were thinking.

Starsfan posted:

oh they were absolutely cognizant of the fact that the Russian workers could keep showing up and using the factory / restaurant / office building to do the same thing they were doing before. They just thought that the damage of brands like Pepsico, McDonalds or British Petroleum ostracizing Russia would somehow outweigh that and bring the country down.

Leandros posted:

It basically costs a whole lot of propellant more to get poo poo to geosync, so you are more constrained how much mass you can get up there, limiting the size of the satellite and thus the optical system, which limits the resolution you can achieve (this limit also is why stars twinkle and planets do not, and why certain telescopes consist of multiple small dishes).

I think military satellites in geosynch are generally IR early warning so they don't need to take pictures of objects, just detect heat signatures. When looking for launches you are just looking for a certain profile of emissions on the EM spectrum rather than shapes in an image of the surface of the earth. You take the light from the observed target, run it through something like a prism and then get the amount of light at each colour, and compare the shape to that of burning ICBM fuel.

There are some satellites which have the capability to move but I have no idea if they are also in geosync, moving means using propellant which means more mass (which means more propellant which means more mass...the rocket equation is a cruel beast). I was at a lecture of an amateur astronomer that started tracking orbits of classified satellite launches and they are hilariously easy to find, it's mostly simple orbital mechanics which is incredibly deterministic.

e:

Yeah the same lecturer explained that NK would basically rehearse combining their rocket parts into a working vehicle in the time window the US satellites had no visibility. And then they launched them.

FirstnameLastname posted:

a sat in geosynchronous orbit is very far away and locked on one spot in a circular orbit at 0 inclination, you can't really reposition it, at least not quicly, atmospheric occlusion creates more of a problem like you might be able to resolve large buildings and for about 12h a day it'll be mostly/entirely useless

surveillance sats are in polar orbits so they pass over every part of the earth as it rotates under them, they deal with coverage gaps by adding more satellites
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Polar_orbit.ogv




geosync is mostly for comms stuff, satellite tv/Internet is from geosync, that's why the latency is so bad

Starsfan posted:

some good news for Ukraine to brighten all of your days:

https://twitter.com/CinC_AFU/status/1742154373977768319

After some concerns were raised about the Ukrainians not shooting down all of the incoming Russian missiles, the intercept rate has climbed back to 100%! The missiles and drones are NOT getting through.

crepeface posted:

https://twitter.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1742199109996392852?s=20

fkn goofball swastika lmao

crepeface posted:

https://twitter.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1742199109996392852?s=20

fkn goofball swastika lmao

DancingShade posted:

Actually the death's head eagle under a black sun are the new symbol of peace, furthermore

edit - I decided to idly Google various products and found a whole rabbit warren.
https://klamra.com.ua/en/leather-belts-with-german-silver-buckles/

I have never used this site. I make no comment if you wish to order a "LEATHER BELTS WITH GERMAN SILVER BUCKLES" product.

Frosted Flake posted:

Nearly all of my policy books are like this lol.

Whatever happens,
we have got,
(Technology),
and they have not

Frosted Flake posted:

We've come a long way from “The history of Russia is a history of violence,” and “It is all borrowed sounds. That’s what Russian culture was, a lot of borrowing,” because this year only Victoria (the fortress of Canadian liberal sentimentality) and Edmonton () decided to stage the new Ukrainian Nationalist Nutcracker as opposed to Tchaikovsky's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp897Kfnjfo

Frosted Flake posted:

Also, if you want some pure ideology, reflecting the origins of Canadian official multiculturalism in the myth of Ukrainians as a founding people, that ballet company received a giant federal cultural grant to produce Ancestors & Elders, a ballet about "the first Ukrainian settlers in Alberta and their relationship with the Indigenous people of Treaty 6 territory they encountered."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiOuCh3_X1M