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Oh god. I’m sorry lol. I guess it speaks to how bad the franchise is that I was fooled by that (or I’m just an idiot). Edit: in my defense it was linked in an article on The Ringer Edit2: maybe that isn’t really a defense
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Whatever you think of the franchise, its trailers have always been stellar. Like legendary trailers for almost every mainline entry.
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Jewmanji posted:https://youtu.be/JY12NsfJOLw?si=L-gIbAKpxVmCC85_ didnt click but love the thumbnail
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Jewmanji posted:https://youtu.be/JY12NsfJOLw?si=L-gIbAKpxVmCC85_ The thumbnail looks like bad AI for an alien sex novel. Edit: Oh, it’s fake.
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Jewmanji posted:Oh god. I’m sorry lol. I guess it speaks to how bad the franchise is that I was fooled by that (or I’m just an idiot).
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Bugblatter posted:Whatever you think of the franchise, its trailers have always been stellar. Like legendary trailers for almost every mainline entry. I do remember the Prometheus trailer being insanely good but the covenant one didn’t do much for me. And I liked Prometheus fwiw. But the best Alien thing since Aliens is actually the game Alien: Isolation.
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I really need to figure out how to block that channel specifically
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:I really need to figure out how to block that channel specifically  Replace with the right channel if/when it shows up.
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AceOfFlames posted:
That keeps them off the front page but unfortunately it’ll still show them in search results and related content. (And the weird instagram feed)
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Stomping out clickbait and fake trailers is the real war on terror.
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Hulu Exec: We need a Knives Out! Get me Mandy Patinkin! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIn-D8FVvwA
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lol at that font. Let's test fonts what makes people think "Glass Onion"
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Just make one called "The Coziest Lil' Murder" and be done with it!
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Give me money and I will adapt the Hilary Tamar books so people will actually know what a great murder mystery looks like.
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Also lmao that title is so lame. Its what a random episode of a murder mystery series that went on for 7 seasons would be called, not something you would use for the whole thing.
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Missed opportunity to call it “Mandy Patinkin’s Deductive Thinkin”
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clown shoes posted:Hulu Exec: We need a Knives Out! Get me Mandy Patinkin! Sadly for everyone involved they overshot past Knives Out! and landed on the much worse Glass Onion instead.
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Imagine a world where they didn't include every story beat in the trailer.
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Svensken posted:Imagine a world where they didn't include every story beat in the trailer. I watched some British Drama recently that literally had no new information in the film. This has to stop!!!
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clown shoes posted:Hulu Exec: We need a Knives Out! Get me Mandy Patinkin! Mum: We have Agatha Christie at home hun.
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Svensken posted:Imagine a world where they didn't include every story beat in the trailer. it's usually a last resort or the director is too involved
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Movie studios, sadly, are in the business of selling tickets, not making good movie watching experiences. Not ruining it matters much less than getting you to buy it.
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I mean, sadly? I guess I don't view it that way. If you want to watch a movie that is designed to be purely a good watching experience take the effort to seek out indie films or watch them in fine arts theaters. Even then the creators have ulterior motives to enhance their careers and graduate to bigger budgets. But if you expect a group of people or studio or corporation to invest millions of dollars into something, they expect to see a return on that investment. It's kind of silly to expect them to spend millions of dollars of their money in order to entertain you without any motivation like they are your grandpa and your entertainment is the only thing that matters. Not that that's what you're saying but I do encounter this philosophy a lot and the longer I'm in this business the less sense that mentality makes edit: it turns out I have more to say on this even though I'm not having this conversation with you, but rather my brother who writes screenplays and sells movies somewhat successfully. We got drunk on New Year's and had a drawn out argument about this subject. He tends to say things like he knows how to "fix Hollywood" by simply creating better stories. It's incredibly condescending, myopic and fairly naive. As if they haven't been trying to do that all along. He's under some kind of delusion that the best stories are the goal and the financial side will simply take care of itself and if it doesn't oh well it's not his money. This made me yell a lot. It's loving hard to balance transitioning a great script to a great film and then convincing everyone that great film is worth seeing and spending your money on. It's like a sports fan that thinks he can fix the offense if only the idiot coach would try to score more points than the other team. Ugh. /vent kiimo fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Jan 5, 2024 |
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kiimo posted:He tends to say things like he knows how to "fix Hollywood" by simply creating better stories. It's incredibly condescending, myopic and fairly naive. As if they haven't been trying to do that all along. have they?
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Svensken posted:Imagine a world where they didn't include every story beat in the trailer. Pretty sure I've mentioned this before, but this is not a new trend. This Godfather trailer is basically stills of the entire movie, showing major character deaths. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x0GpEZnwa8 Granted, this was an adaptation of a recent famous book, but they did not give a poo poo about giving away basically the entire movie.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:have they? When looking at a script the story being gripping is 100% part of the decision-making process. The thing is, scripts that are outstanding don't often translate to great movies. The script for The Campaign with Will Ferrell and Zach Galifianakis was one of the funniest things I've ever read. There are several factors that go into whether to purchase / option a script. Sellability is another. Will it have the event factor to get people into theaters? THE BANSHEES OF INISHERIN made $10m in the US and was a nominee for best screenplay. If Searchlight / Fox / Disney wants to make that film they have to throw some bullshit Marvel properties up. That movie opened to $184k domestically. Like, you have to balance those things. Martin McDonagh also had to have the pedigree in order for that film to get made. Without In Bruges (2008), Seven Psychopaths (2012) and Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri (2017) it doesn't matter how incredible the script is it's going to take a lot for a studio to take that risk. Please don't poke holes in my argument because well Banshees had this nuance going on or that situation. It's just the first example I grabbed
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Jewmanji posted:Oh god. I’m sorry lol. I guess it speaks to how bad the franchise is that I was fooled by that (or I’m just an idiot). Ahahaha The "Im Stupid therefore something else must be at fault " defense. Incredible to see this in person and not just in satire.
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kiimo posted:I mean, sadly? I guess I don't view it that way. If you want to watch a movie that is designed to be purely a good watching experience take the effort to seek out indie films or watch them in fine arts theaters. Even then the creators have ulterior motives to enhance their careers and graduate to bigger budgets. But if you expect a group of people or studio or corporation to invest millions of dollars into something, they expect to see a return on that investment. It's kind of silly to expect them to spend millions of dollars of their money in order to entertain you without any motivation like they are your grandpa and your entertainment is the only thing that matters. the problem is less with the profit motive and more with the desire for the profit margin to be as fat as possible…..frankly the movie industry was a lot healthier when studios were routinely spending $30 million to make $80 million, not gambling $500 million on a quarterly basis in hopes theyll score a billion dollar megahit
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bows1 posted:Ahahaha Me: good-naturedly calling myself an idiot You: Ahahaha you loving idiot, you dipshit.
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I think the sticking point is that you trash talked a series a lot of people love. That’ll draw some poo poo talk.
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He probably just meant "it speaks to how bad the franchise has become" which isn't an unfair point. I love Alien, Aliens and even 3. But it dropped off real fast after that. Alien and Aliens are pretty indisputably great. The rest? Eh.
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To be honest I'm not even attached to my original take. Alien and Aliens are classics, needless to say. I like Alien 3 enough, Alien 4 was bad, Prometheus was fun, and I didn't see Covenant but heard it was "ok". However I do feel very strongly that anyone who likes the franchise should play Alien: Isolation.
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Jewmanji posted:To be honest I'm not even attached to my original take. Alien and Aliens are classics, needless to say. I like Alien 3 enough, Alien 4 was bad, Prometheus was fun, and I didn't see Covenant but heard it was "ok". Yeah I didn't take your original take as really serious either tbh. Just taking the piss while laughing at yourself. But this is CineD after all so people are going to take everything way too seriously!
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scary ghost dog posted:the problem is less with the profit motive and more with the desire for the profit margin to be as fat as possible…..frankly the movie industry was a lot healthier when studios were routinely spending $30 million to make $80 million, not gambling $500 million on a quarterly basis in hopes theyll score a billion dollar megahit I guess. It feels like people see the billion dollar movies, skip the really good $184k movies and then say "Hollywood doesn't make good movies anymore".
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In my experience, when people say "Hollywood doesn't make good movies anymore" they mean "Hollywood doesn't make good sci-fi/action blockbusters aimed at me anymore."
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kiimo posted:I guess. It feels like people see the billion dollar movies, skip the really good $184k movies and then say "Hollywood doesn't make good movies anymore". thats correct. the general moviegoing audience would probably see more of the cheaper movies if there wasnt an informal distinction between them and the billion dollar blockbusters. people probably dont think of most released movies as “real movies” unless they have at least a hundred million dollars spent on super bowl ads, billboards, brand deals, and toys. only horror movie studios are satisfied with a modest profit; every other movie has to either make box office records or win an academy award, or else they arent worth funding
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There truly is a lack of mid budget movies like they used to make in the 80s and 90s. Granted those were pretty poo poo a lot of the time too but it provided another space for adults to go see stuff that wasn’t a huge effects driven spectacle or low budget indie. I guess all that kind of stuff is going directly to streaming and/or becoming a miniseries these days.
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Yeah, that stuff has largely moved to TV, which sucks because it's not really suited to the medium and also when am I ever gonna make 10 hours to watch some dry adult drama
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I was going to use August Osage County as an example for some point and then saw it made $74m globally. Then I saw that it was Weinstein Company. Seems like the Weinsteins made a lot of those mid level dry adult dramas people are talking about. I don't really have a point, just something I noticed
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