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Ashcans posted:You have lost access to some good gear/traders, but you should still be able to get to the ones in Moonrise and get stuff there. If you did not go through the Mountain Pass you can go back to it from the Shadowlands, as there is a good trader in the creche and also gear there if you murder everyone. Happily by chance I got both upgrades for Karlach, letting her chow down in Drow Town.
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BizarroAzrael posted:Happily by chance I got both upgrades for Karlach, letting her chow down in Drow Town. Kind of a weird way to refer to the Karlach/Minthara romance but you do you
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Alrighty, another weird one: Doing a new Honor Mode run, just because I wasn't happy with the way my first run went (everyone dead or gone!) I was in the Zhentarim hideout and was clearing out the place, and fighting the second group near the locked treasure rooms at the back of the cave. One of the Zhents turned around and blew up an oil barrel that they were standing next to, killing not only themselves but also two of the wolves. The game can be very amusing at times.
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why would you attack the zhents? just xp?
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grack posted:Alrighty, another weird one:
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pmchem posted:why would you attack the zhents? just xp? They’re dicks. No one tells me I can’t open a box.
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bird with big dick posted:They’re dicks. No one tells me I can’t open a box. You're not the boss of me! <Opens flask inside box> OUCH
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my PC is a Sovereign Citizen, laws do not apply to me.
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pmchem posted:why would you attack the zhents? just xp? I already bought all the stuff from the trader and they have some interesting loot Also I like to kill things.
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bird with big dick posted:They’re dicks. No one tells me I can’t open a box. I had the goofiest outcome to the whole thing. I saved the two guys in the cave from the gnolls, but then stupidly used Detect Thoughts when talking to them and they freaked out and attacked me. So I had to murder them, but it was after they had given me the pass phrase for the hideout. So I opened the box, took the stuff with me, and when the Zhent asked about their pals I said 'Oh yea sorry they didn't make it, but I did save your package!' Only then they freaked out about not keeping it sealed up and attacked me! No one told me buddy, I am trying to be helpful here! So anyway then I had to kill them all, which was a mess. Oh well.
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Is there anything later about why they were transporting thst cargo, or who it was for, or anything? I think I missed all that.
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Co-op’ing with a friend of mine and he attacked and killed the zhents too because they’re “evil thieves” and “gently caress these assholes.” He does this every time he comes across an npc he doesn’t like. We’re constantly fighting people who are either just minding their own business or they offer a quest that sounds like a crime and he’s like “nope, I don’t do quests for evil people.” He pouted for an hour because the hag got away after the fight and he didn’t get to kill her outright. He yelled at me for doing the boots quest in the underdark and accused me of “siding with slavers” even though doing the quest and then killing them are not mutually exclusive. Neither of us have finished act 1 and have no idea what’s going to happen later on. I keep trying to tell him that removing npcs from the game is probably cutting us off from good items or story bits but he doesn’t care. I know there’s no “wrong” way to play this game but it’s all very unsatisfying. Maybe we should have done solo games first?
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lost old man posted:Co-op’ing with a friend of mine and he attacked and killed the zhents too because they’re “evil thieves” and “gently caress these assholes.” He does this every time he comes across an npc he doesn’t like. We’re constantly fighting people who are either just minding their own business or they offer a quest that sounds like a crime and he’s like “nope, I don’t do quests for evil people.” He pouted for an hour because the hag got away after the fight and he didn’t get to kill her outright. He yelled at me for doing the boots quest in the underdark and accused me of “siding with slavers” even though doing the quest and then killing them are not mutually exclusive. your friend's a weird dick and you should cut and do a solo run so you can actually enjoy one of the greatest CRPGs ever
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OzFactor posted:Is there anything later about why they were transporting thst cargo, or who it was for, or anything? I think I missed all that. If you give them the unopened chest you can find the item inside on a Zhentarim enemy in Act 3. Alternatively, you can give the Zhentarim leader the chest and get all the rewards, and then kill them all and take it back.
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Ashcans posted:I had the goofiest outcome to the whole thing. I saved the two guys in the cave from the gnolls, but then stupidly used Detect Thoughts when talking to them and they freaked out and attacked me. So I had to murder them, but it was after they had given me the pass phrase for the hideout. So I opened the box, took the stuff with me, and when the Zhent asked about their pals I said 'Oh yea sorry they didn't make it, but I did save your package!' Only then they freaked out about not keeping it sealed up and attacked me! No one told me buddy, I am trying to be helpful here! So anyway then I had to kill them all, which was a mess. Oh well.
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Only one npc truly deserves murderhoboing and it's the one that wants to beat your dog
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After another disappointing level-up, I kinda want to spec shadowheart out of her trickery domain. Could someone who is good at d&d lore tell me, which other domain makes the most “sense” for her Shar-ness? Thx
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Jay Rust posted:After another disappointing level-up, I kinda want to spec shadowheart out of her trickery domain. Could someone who is good at d&d lore tell me, which other domain makes the most “sense” for her Shar-ness? Thx The only one I can think is knowledge cleric focusing on her holding on to secret knowledge of the gods. Of course, she has some (early game spoilers about Shadowheart) significant amnesia, so that's up to you. I can't really see any other lore friendly choice. Light is very good mechanically!
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Jay Rust posted:After another disappointing level-up, I kinda want to spec shadowheart out of her trickery domain. Could someone who is good at d&d lore tell me, which other domain makes the most “sense” for her Shar-ness? Thx In the various editions of the forgotten realms: Darkness, evil, knowledge, trickery, death
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socialsecurity posted:Only one npc truly deserves murderhoboing and it's the one that wants to beat your dog
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Selune's the D&D god of the moon and stars yet doesn't get light as a domain. ?
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lost old man posted:Co-op’ing Tell them this isn’t the playthrough you were hoping for and find a faster paced less consequential game to play with that person. Playing this game worrying about which quest giver is about to die for absolutely nothing is surprisingly stressful.
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Shumagorath posted:I have tried Bethesda Evil and nothing quite made me feel like a monster like surrendering Scratch. Fastest quickload of my life followed by “you touch ANY of these dogs and there won’t be enough left to sell to Raphael”. I think evil in this game ultimately feels less satisfying because you potentially just wipeout a shitton of characters and get basically nothing in return except for lolth drow mommy and miss out on later content involving NPCs that no longer exist.
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What kind of loot do the zhents have anyways? I never did murder all of them.
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Professor Beetus posted:I think evil in this game ultimately feels less satisfying because you potentially just wipeout a shitton of characters and get basically nothing in return except for lolth drow mommy and miss out on later content involving NPCs that no longer exist.
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Can anybody think of something that would cause a warlock's Mage Armor (from Armor of Shadows) to spontaneously fall off? A friend is getting pissed that theirs keeps falling off and they don't notice until a fight has started, and they insist they cast it first thing after every long rest and they're not wearing armor. I'm at a loss to explain what might be happening.
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Thundarr posted:Can anybody think of something that would cause a warlock's Mage Armor (from Armor of Shadows) to spontaneously fall off? A friend is getting pissed that theirs keeps falling off and they don't notice until a fight has started, and they insist they cast it first thing after every long rest and they're not wearing armor. I'm at a loss to explain what might be happening. Are they sure they aren't wearing armor? Remember that armor isn't just the chest piece. If they're wearing medium armor boots etc that would also cause the armor to drop.
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Thundarr posted:Can anybody think of something that would cause a warlock's Mage Armor (from Armor of Shadows) to spontaneously fall off?
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Typo posted:yeah never use friends unless you are ready to fight the person you are charming lol I know this is an older post, but this only happens if you stick around and the spell wears off. it's a super op spell and should be in every group tbh
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Ginette Reno posted:Are they sure they aren't wearing armor? Remember that armor isn't just the chest piece. If they're wearing medium armor boots etc that would also cause the armor to drop. I had them send me a screenshot of the gear to verify, and it looks like Bracers of Defense / Bonespike Boots / Circlet of Psionic Revenge / Potent Robe. So nothing that should block Mage Armor.
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Obligatum VII posted:What kind of loot do the zhents have anyways? I never did murder all of them. if you give them the chest without opening it (you can still obtain the chest in act 3 so there is no loss here) you get access to some special loot, which includes a pair of gloves that gives you advantage on sleight of hands, a bow that scales off str instead of dex, and early access to generic rare +1 gear. it's very much worth doing, even if you're just gonna kill them after.
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Tonetta posted:if you give them the chest without opening it (you can still obtain the chest in act 3 so there is no loss here) you get access to some special loot, which includes a pair of gloves that gives you advantage on sleight of hands, a bow that scales off str instead of dex, and early access to generic rare +1 gear. it's very much worth doing, even if you're just gonna kill them after. I meant what happens if you DO kill them loot-wise. I always just delivered the thing. They have anything actually interesting in those heavily defended back rooms?
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Obligatum VII posted:I meant what happens if you DO kill them loot-wise. I always just delivered the thing. there's an entrance to the underdark back there, that's about it. I'm pretty sure you get access to it if you deliver the box unopened. it comes out in the area southeast where there's some bombs next to a net which someone always seems to trigger, preventing most players from exploring it from the other end.
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Tonetta posted:if you give them the chest without opening it (you can still obtain the chest in act 3 so there is no loss here) you get access to some special loot, which includes a pair of gloves that gives you advantage on sleight of hands, a bow that scales off str instead of dex, and early access to generic rare +1 gear. it's very much worth doing, even if you're just gonna kill them after. The bow doesn’t scale of str instead of dex; it adds your str bonus to damage in addition to your dex. It’s Tavern Brawler: Bow edition.
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If you don't babysit Ketheric's ego by not smacking him down turn two while someone has fear they are feared forever lmao
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pmchem posted:why would you attack the zhents? just xp? They attacked me even though I thoughtfully handed over the flask they wanted me to get when I already had it in my possession. "You've killed us all! We're taking you with us!" I still don't have any context for it but what bloody drama queens. They were half right though. E: they're also literally slavers? Perry Mason Jar fucked around with this message at 08:18 on Jan 6, 2024 |
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Obligatum VII posted:I meant what happens if you DO kill them loot-wise. I always just delivered the thing. You can loot those rooms without killing anyone. There's good money, infernal iron and some "very rare" grade summoner gloves.
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JBP posted:If you don't babysit Ketheric's ego by not smacking him down turn two while someone has fear they are feared forever lmao Calm emotions should fix it
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I killed the Zhent Graceful Cloth does the job for me. Convert undesirables into xp.
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Tonetta posted:there's an entrance to the underdark back there, that's about it. I'm pretty sure you get access to it if you deliver the box unopened. it comes out in the area southeast where there's some bombs next to a net which someone always seems to trigger, preventing most players from exploring it from the other end. There’s some shrooms you can jump up
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