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Which season of Doctor Who should get a Blu-ray set next? This poll is closed. |
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| One of the black-and-white seasons |
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16 | 29.63% |
| Season 7 |
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7 | 12.96% |
| Season 11 |
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1 | 1.85% |
| Season 13 |
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0 | 0% |
| Season 15 |
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2 | 3.70% |
| The Key to Time |
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21 | 38.89% |
| Season 21 |
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0 | 0% |
| Season 25 |
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7 | 12.96% |
| Total: | 54 votes | ||
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LividLiquid posted:That's one hell of a bird. An absolutely amazing line in an absolutely amazing sequence in an absolutely amazing episode. LividLiquid posted:Did people really not like 12 here? I remember those years being quite well-liked, if nitpicked a bit for funsies. 12 was extremely well liked, and most of his run was considered very good albeit of course with issues and bad episodes here and there. Remember though, the first rule of Doctor Who fans is that we we can't agree on anything (including that first rule), and it used to be a very common thing during the Tennant and Smith years at least for an episode to air and 95% of the posts to be wildly positive and optimistic, then one single person would say,"I didn't like it all that much" and somebody else would (unironically) post,"I can't stand the relentless negativity anymore, I don't care what you all say, I liked that episode, I guess I just don't "get" Doctor Who!  "
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Jan 6, 2024 03:00
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LividLiquid posted:Did people really not like 12 here? I remember those years being quite well-liked, if nitpicked a bit for funsies. I found the initial character actively repellent in a way his character arc didn't fully address, so I've never gotten fully on board with the guy.
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Jan 6, 2024 03:04
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LividLiquid posted:Did people really not like 12 here? I remember those years being quite well-liked, if nitpicked a bit for funsies. If I had to describe the consensus (coincidentally my own view) I'd say that seasons 8 and 9 are hit and miss (some great episodes, some stinkers, arcs that don't really land) and that season 10 is one of the best of the revival.
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Jan 6, 2024 03:08
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Open Source Idiom posted:I found the initial character actively repellent in a way his character arc didn't fully address, so I've never gotten fully on board with the guy.
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Jan 6, 2024 03:16
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I don't think it was the character himself, I was just getting fed up with the show. Cyber-brigadier was my breaking point, I found it offensive and I haven't even seen any episodes with him lol.
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Jan 6, 2024 03:30
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Open Source Idiom posted:I found the initial character actively repellent in a way his character arc didn't fully address, so I've never gotten fully on board with the guy. This is why I did click off. Smith was my first Doctor. I had went backwards to Eccleston at the time. When he became Capaldia, it felt like a place to step off. When Jodie became Tenant again, that got me back into Doctor Who again and led to the roleplaying game and me catching up and getting into Big Finish and Classic W-- God drat, Rusty's loving publicity stuck got me hook, line, and sinker. I am proof of that "you are not immune to propaganda" meme.
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Jan 6, 2024 03:35
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Lmao that Rusty has saved this show twice over
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Jan 6, 2024 04:32
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Series 8 is my fav one. First half of Deep Breath is a slog, but the minute Clara and the Doctor sit down in that restaurant it's like a switch has flipped and the Doctor is here. Such a tonal departure from Matt Smith, marking a clear delineation between eras without a change in lead writer, an underrated trick. Ditches complicated myth arcs for thematic and emotional ones; I'm a sucker for a series where the stories all rhyme with each other in some way- robots, soldiers, power relations. It has an episode where the villain is a mummy, an episode where the villain is the protagonist's fear of the dark, and an episode where one of the heroes is Santa Claus. The Doctor is really interesting, ruthlessly pragmatic and socially uninterested to the point of "deleting" people from his memory moments after meeting them. Nobody's inviting this guy to Christmas dinner after he helps them defeat a monster. Even he's unsure who he is and what he should be after so many regenerations, going so far as to compare himself to the Ship of Theseus. (one year later in Heaven Sent: "how long can I keep doing this? Burning the old me to make a new one?") Plus he's got that snazzy jacket with the red lining. It's a great time
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Jan 6, 2024 04:35
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I’m generally split between seasons 4 and 5 being my favorites, but I’ve only watched a couple eps of 12’s run (fell off the show for years for various reasons and only recently got back into it) 4 just had the loving incredible chemistry between Donna and 10 plus several genuinely extremely good eps, and 5 feels like the series of the 11 era where Moffat was most successful in keeping all the plates spinning without poo poo hitting the ground and raising questions.
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Jan 6, 2024 05:20
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Gaz-L posted:It's kind of funny, because Ncuti's outright said in interviews that he feels his Scottish accent makes him sound posh (there is a slight whiff of middle class about it, for sure) That's because he's from edinburgh and they all sound like toffee nosed pricks over there.
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Jan 6, 2024 11:58
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Doctor Spaceman posted:If I had to describe the consensus (coincidentally my own view) I'd say that seasons 8 and 9 are hit and miss (some great episodes, some stinkers, arcs that don't really land) and that season 10 is one of the best of the revival. This is pretty much where I'm at as well. Even if Series 10 has the Monks thing.
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Jan 6, 2024 12:05
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keep punching joe posted:That's because he's from edinburgh and they all sound like toffee nosed pricks over there. Only Morningside REALLY.
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Jan 6, 2024 12:08
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Jan 6, 2024 12:10
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To be fair they have a point. I'm from England and even I think Edinburgh people sound a bit posh.
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Jan 6, 2024 12:14
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Anyway the only eps of Capaldi's run that I can never seem to get into is the double parter Under the Lake & Before the Flood - Just think the villains a bit naff, with its romper stomper boots, and there's too much faffing about. Otherwise I think 12 had a really solid run that was such a tonal difference to what people were used to that it probably threw them off a lot.
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Jan 6, 2024 12:16
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Infinitum posted:Anyway the only eps of Capaldi's run that I can never seem to get into is the double parter Under the Lake & Before the Flood - Just think the villains a bit naff, with its romper stomper boots, and there's too much faffing about. See I love that one because of the lecture to camera about the bootstrap paradox and because the romper stomper booted villain has Peter Serafinowicz's voice. Plus the silent blank eyed ghosts stomping around are genuinely creepy.
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Jan 6, 2024 12:26
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Capaldi had some disastrously bad episodes like Kill the Moon, Forest of the Night, and the Zygon two parter. Real contenders for the worst stories in Doctor Who history. And then there'd be some amazing episodes. It was an era of whiplash.
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Jan 6, 2024 13:37
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I'd argue the worst whiplash was between Extremis and the rest of the monk episodes, largely because setting up the story with some amazing bits of horror and then paying it off with a bunch of people doing really stupid things is a terrible combination.
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Jan 6, 2024 13:39
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The lows of the Capaldi run just weren't as horrible or consistent as the lows of the Smith run to me, maybe just because I like Peter so much as an actor. The highs are my favorite Who. I like all three of his seasons, warts and all. Please bring back Jamie Mathieson, RTD!
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Jan 6, 2024 14:28
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Yeah a large part of it for me is that I rate Capaldi as an actor whereas I... very much do not think Matt Smith has the same depth of skill. And I liked a lot of his Who!
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Jan 6, 2024 14:32
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I know there are some parents in the thread: how early did you start show them Doctor Who? My oldest is five, which still feels young to me, but he wants to watch it because he got a few Doctor Who books from relatives.
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Jan 6, 2024 15:23
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Bicyclops posted:I know there are some parents in the thread: how early did you start show them Doctor Who? My oldest is five, which still feels young to me, but he wants to watch it because he got a few Doctor Who books from relatives. Space Cadet is 7 at the moment. She'd seen some classic stuff when she was a bit younger but we started modern Who earlier this year. It's going to depend a lot on the kid and how well they deal with scary stuff. Some episodes you can pick in advance are going to be an issue but some are a bit harder. She found the alt-universe Cyberman two-parter pretty scary because of the cyber conversion scene (I think it was the first person perspective for the blades and saws) which was a really brief bit and one I'd forgotten about.
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Jan 6, 2024 15:25
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Bicyclops posted:I know there are some parents in the thread: how early did you start show them Doctor Who? My oldest is five, which still feels young to me, but he wants to watch it because he got a few Doctor Who books from relatives. I tried my eldest at about 7 with series 5 and he got scared when we hit the Angels episode. Tried a few years later when he was 13 and his brother was 9 and they both decided Capaldi was their favourite doctor but they lost interest before Whittaker started.
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Jan 6, 2024 15:29
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Yeah, that's what I'm worried about. It's hard to remember what the "behind the sofa" moments are, or sometimes even to know what's scary for him specifically. He's fine, for example, with the big scary Ursula in The little Mermaid, but he gets really upset at the scene where King Triton blows up all of the mermaid's stuff. I think I'll just wait for now, there's plenty of Number Blocks.
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Jan 6, 2024 15:29
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Bicyclops posted:I know there are some parents in the thread: how early did you start show them Doctor Who? My oldest is five, which still feels young to me, but he wants to watch it because he got a few Doctor Who books from relatives. My little sister (who is now nearly 18) watched David Tennant's werewolf episode when it came out, and she was 1 year old at the time. She's been watching it since.
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Jan 6, 2024 15:38
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Also my first memory of Who is the glass Dalek from Revelation when I would have been five? And I'm still watching thirty nine years later so yeah it defo depends.
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Jan 6, 2024 15:43
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5 is a tad younger but my parent's system was to put on The Empty Child and The Doctor Dances to keep their children quiet while hosting an adult dinner, and then just let it haunt me for year and years to the point I still get the shits from gas masks into their late 20s and counting. I'm still watching so seems foolproof.
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Jan 6, 2024 15:50
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If the message of the Weeping Angels episode were "You have to eat your vegetables," then I'd consider it...
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Jan 6, 2024 16:10
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What's the point of even having kids if you aren't exposing them to nightmare fuel at a young age?
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Jan 6, 2024 16:31
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I kinda want to say start the kid with Classic Who? There's a whole lot of it, and the effects are naff enough that it might be fun AND scary to them. Pertwee was my first Doctor when we had a really good antenna in NYC and the New Jersey PBS ran episodes in the early '90s when I was growing up. It was colorful and fun, and he's still one of my favorite Doctors.
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Jan 6, 2024 16:32
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2house2fly posted:I'll say this for Chibs, the last Jodie Whitaker episode is a fun blowout continuityfest in a completely different way to what you'd get from RTD or Moffat. I don't know if I like it (it falls into the same Silence-esque place as the rest of Chibnall's era where I can't remember a drat thing about it when I'm not actively watching it) but I like that it made some of the choices it made The former companion support group (and getting William Russell on-screen) is so brilliant you wonder why it hadn’t already happened.
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Jan 6, 2024 16:32
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Not really Capaldi's fault but I had fallen off 12 because I wasn't feeling the Moffat vibe much anymore and thought the show just needed a new direction. I'm going back to rewatch some of it now and enjoying it more than I did at the time.
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Jan 6, 2024 22:10
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Covok posted:Oh fun fact about that TRPG campaign, I came up with this idea where the Doctor's companion was a girl from Victorian England who actually died and was a living paradox because someone changed the past. Last Christmas, my sister in law bought me the Charlie Pollard arc for the 8th Doctor. Imagine my loving surprise. That's ridiculous. Charley is from EDWARDIAN times. Totally different.
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Jan 6, 2024 23:52
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Gaz-L posted:That's ridiculous. No spoilers BUT I see one audio is called "Neverland." In my game, the character was "Alice Little" and, when the Paradox got to be too much, the universe imploded and became Alice in Wonderland. I based that on the "Wedding of River Song," but now I wonder if this is literally what they are building to in the audio dramas. ONCE AGAIN, NO SPOILERS.
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Jan 7, 2024 03:59
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Going with the show ideas from a few pages back. Take the TARDIS idea (please!) as a start: Different creative team does three-episode arcs, entirely different Time Lord(s) each arc. Like, good Time Lords lost to history, evil Time Lords who destroyed themselves spectacularly, dumb Time Lords. Full creative license, as long as the Time Lord dies at the end. Each Time Lord is a big time celebrity and everyone gets to interact with a Doctor at least once in the series in very very VERY minor ways. Edit: Time Lords SpeakSlow fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Jan 7, 2024 |
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Jan 7, 2024 04:22
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Moffat's run is my favorite and it's not close. I speedrun 9 and 10 to get to 11 and 12. It blows me away that people think he sucks. Like, at best, he's kind of poo poo. But he doesn't suck. At Doctor Who. Hoooooo boy does he suck elsewhere.
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Jan 7, 2024 06:25
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LividLiquid posted:Moffat's run is my favorite and it's not close. I speedrun 9 and 10 to get to 11 and 12. It blows me away that people think he sucks. I still really love Press Gang.
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Jan 7, 2024 06:39
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LividLiquid posted:Moffat's run is my favorite and it's not close. I speedrun 9 and 10 to get to 11 and 12. It blows me away that people think he sucks. He doesn't suck, he just didn't have like six seasons of story to tell, but carried on anyway. There's great stuff throughout those six seasons but there's also a lot of chaff and "keep watching and maybe we'll resolve these hanging plot threads!". Moffat will always exist in my head as both the guy that gave us the 50th anniversary that the show deserved, but he's still the guy that gave us two Doctor's final episodes that were kinda poo poo. Like, why would you have your final episode as show runner be that bloody dreadful Christmas special when you'd written The Doctor Falls?
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Jan 7, 2024 09:23
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I think Moffat kinda sucks, but less than I used to. His characterization is frequently quite weak, and I think a lot of arcs are hodgepodges of ideas that he's not super disciplined about handling. He's got fewer big ideas than he needed to in his role, and you can sense them running out as early as his second season in charge, but his stories tend to be vivid even when the hang a lot of weight on deliberately unsatisfying gotchas, or descend into disappointing neoliberal political manifestos. I also used to feel more strongly about the ways he thought about sex and gender, but those feelings have mellowed with time too. They're still bad, but I feel less intensely than I used to I guess. (Probably a good thing.) Fil5000 posted:Moffat will always exist in my head as both the guy that gave us the 50th anniversary that the show deserved, but he's still the guy that gave us two Doctor's final episodes that were kinda poo poo. Like, why would you have your final episode as show runner be that bloody dreadful Christmas special when you'd written The Doctor Falls? To be fair, there were extenuating circumstances there.
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Jan 7, 2024 10:09
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Open Source Idiom posted:To be fair, there were extenuating circumstances there. Just make The Doctor Falls a christmas special. CGI a bunch of christmas trees into the background, we even know those are a thing on Mondas.
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