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Ghost Leviathan posted:This has been so obvious for a while there's all the not-really-jokes about how the Star Wars shows only get to be good as long as Disney's c-suite is busy ruining something else. Hell, it's been a thing for so long that it's the maybe not true story behind the first Pirates of the Caribbean movie being decent and original. Although in that case it was because it was supposed to spearhead a project of ride based movies that they gave up on so no one cared about the weird pirate movie anymore.
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They released The Haunted Mansion the same year and Country Bears the year before, so I can't really see that story being true.
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Simplex posted:They released The Haunted Mansion the same year and Country Bears the year before, so I can't really see that story being true. I had to look that up to see if you were just making poo poo up but goddamn, I absolutely memory-holed that one.
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Yeah both of them bombed, with iirc the Haunted Mansion movie being the hyped one which got their focus, so I see that story being true
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Pirates of the Carribean really was lightning in a bottle. I think the casting is a big part of it, you got a bunch of actors hamming it up on their a-game, and the straight-faced leads actually work pretty well playing off Jack's wackiness.
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Grendels Dad posted:At least Red Sonja only has that one Schwarzenegger adaptation which either is forgotten or has people nostalgic for it (because they have forgotten how mediocre it is). Hasn't helped that the RS movie has been in development hell for like one or two decades at this point. Like I definitely wouldn't mind it actually coming out, a sprinkle of fantasy movies would nice once in a while.
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The first pirates movie is still one of my favorites (Depp aside) but they went downhill pretty fast after that
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https://x.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1743057807119708597?s=20 lmao
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Idk how Peloton works, did she know he was in the "class" or was he just catching strays out of nowhere?
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My understanding is that instructors see some kind of name but she probably wasn't aware that it was actually Christopher Nolan.
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The Travis Scott song from the credits came on so that’s why she talked about how she didn’t like the movie.
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He was watching a recording of an old class, so barring the additional irony that she's a time traveller, she had no way of knowing he'd see it.
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Sir Kodiak posted:He was watching a recording of an old class, so barring the additional irony that she's a time traveller, she had no way of knowing he'd see it. Look she's seen TENET, she obviously knows all the in's and out's of time travel. We can't rule this out.
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Casimir Radon posted:The Travis Scott song from the credits came on so that’s why she talked about how she didn’t like the movie. what a weird choice for a nolan song
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dr_rat posted:Look she's seen TENET, she obviously knows all the in's and out's of time travel. We can't rule this out. From what we learned of her watching Tenet, she very much seems not to.
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One by of the things I liked about Tenet is how time travel costs time. You can live your entire life and only progress 20 years if you want.
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Saw Wonka and I enjoyed it. It helps that it is a very earnest movie and doesn't try to be ironic or winking at the audience. Also would have seen it sooner if someone had told me Rich Fulcher was in it.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:honestly gotta go Team Peloton Instructor on this one, Tenet sucked rear end I went in with a 0% expectation because I hated the last few things Nolan worked on (DKR, Interstellar, and Dunkirk) and really enjoyed it. I think a lot of that is because of Pattison and Washington as well as just embracing it.
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Peloton instructor is half-right, because the time-magic mechanics of Tenet’s plot are so convoluted that they effectively cannot be explained in any detail.
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Tenet is perfectly fine It’s not incredible but i think it’s worth watching
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What, tenet was awful I've brought it up before but a particularly emblematic scene for me is how rpats and JDW have their big conversation at the end of the movie where rpats explains the entire convoluted time travel scheme and lays out the entire emotional basis of their relationship... except Nolan chooses to have them shout at each other while they're 100 feet apart and walking away from each other in a big field of rubble
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One of the first characters in the TENET organisation that the Protagonist meets literally tells the audience that they shouldn't care too much about the science of it.
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Carpet posted:One of the first characters in the TENET organisation that the Protagonist meets literally tells the audience that they shouldn't care too much about the science of it. I listened to her and I didn't care too much, it worked out nicely
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Carpet posted:One of the first characters in the TENET organisation that the Protagonist meets literally tells the audience that they shouldn't care too much about the science of it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0q65EvDMvs
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Gonna make a movie about dragons and then spend several minutes having characters talk about how they shouldn't think about how several tons of crocodile shouldn't be able to fly or breathe fire.
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Carpet posted:One of the first characters in the TENET organisation that the Protagonist meets literally tells the audience that they shouldn't care too much about the science of it. That's the dumb thing. It has this whole huge complex plot, but Christopher Nolan keeps on trying to tell his audience they shouldn't think about it too deeply. He even tries to use it justify his lovely sound mixing.
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Carpet posted:One of the first characters in the TENET organisation that the Protagonist meets literally tells the audience that they shouldn't care too much about the science of it. They should have embraced that attitude while writing the movie. Instead we got something that probably does make internal sense but hosed if I could enjoy the film enough to care if it did. Professor Shark posted:Temporal Pincer Movement was dumb fun No it wasn't. It was a cool dumb, fun idea executed in the most straightforward, uninteresting, 'action that looks like behind the scenes footage of the action' way possible.
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Feldegast42 posted:The first pirates movie is still one of my favorites (Depp aside) but they went downhill pretty fast after that Honestly, the first two sequels are very good upon rewatching them a few months ago. It does help if you approaching them more as the story of Swan becoming a pirate queen. That story is sorta there and started in the first movie but it’s more of the c/d story.
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IShallRiseAgain posted:That's the dumb thing. It has this whole huge complex plot, but Christopher Nolan keeps on trying to tell his audience they shouldn't think about it too deeply. He even tries to use it justify his lovely sound mixing. I watch everything with captions, but it always feels like a victory finger if it's a Nolan movie.
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I hate that everyone watches everything with caption in every tv. Fucks with my adhd and I can’t pay attention. I’m reading useless repeated info Blows
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I love Nolan's movies, and respect his craft even when I think the movie isn't my cup of tea (Dunkirk), so with that said TENET is a goddamn stinker and every one of his worst impulses cranked to 11 and poo poo onto the screen. I am sure that the story makes narrative sense on paper, and yes, the actors are acting their hearts out to try and make that poo poo work, but the actual cinematography decisions made for that movie are baffling and absurd. I felt like he was gaslighting me with that sound mixing until I realized that theaters were having to put up actual signs telling people that it wasn't the theater's fault that no one could understand the dialogue. His "two people sit in a static location to explain the plot" gimmick reached such comical levels that YouTube videos making fun of it are actually less complicated than the film itself (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2FXfFeRtJo). And the climax involves a series of gunfights where Nolan made the specific decision to never show the antagonists or who anyone was actually shooting at. It was such a bizarre movie, and I refuse to be convinced that I was just too dumb to understand it, because I rewound that fucker enough times to follow the plot, but the plot was just shite.
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I remember reading an interview with Nolan after Interstellar came out where he was asked if the wormhole or whatever it was closed at the end and he said yes, which meant that Matt McConaughey’s character basically just jumped into a ship to commit suicide at the end and will never find Anne Hathaway, and some goon responded to a post about it I made saying that it was symbolic of the character’s hope and sense of adventure or something. Nolan definitely forgot the ending to his own movie lol (This was from years ago, very possible I got some details wrong here)
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CelticPredator posted:I hate that everyone watches everything with caption in every tv. Fucks with my adhd and I can’t pay attention. I’m reading useless repeated info Stick to watching your own tv
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Professor Shark posted:I remember reading an interview with Nolan after Interstellar came out where he was asked if the wormhole or whatever it was closed at the end and he said yes, which meant that Matt McConaughey’s character basically just jumped into a ship to commit suicide at the end and will never find Anne Hathaway, and some goon responded to a post about it I made saying that it was symbolic of the character’s hope and sense of adventure or something. tbf forgetting about Anne Hathaway is a thing he does
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Thwomp posted:Honestly, the first two sequels are very good upon rewatching them a few months ago. Where was my pirates vs. East India Company giant naval battle, movie? That's all that I wanted to see.
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I only like the first POTC movie. They get really dumb after that. When On Stranger Tides came out I was overly charitable towards it because at least it wasn’t the same poo poo as the first two sequels. But I rewatched it a few months ago after a reread of the book and it was awful too. With the last one Depp seems really out of it the entire time. His substance abuse issues must have been ramping up at the time. You can only shoot around that so much when it’s the main character. If they insist on doing any more they should really just reboot. Too much story baggage at this point and they’re well out of the Golden Age of Pirates at this point. Of course people might not go to see one with no Jack Sparrow in it. As an aside I rewatched Cutthroat Island al last year. All the way through anyway. I tried to watch it again a long time ago and the terrible dialogue made me turn it off. If you can get past that there’s a pretty fun pirate movie underneath the problems.
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Oh hell yeah https://twitter.com/worldofreel/status/1743796147808797049
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man i hope he really gives it to advertising
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