Subjunctive posted:

(interesting that Cline didn’t have to do any licensing for the book, afaik, but IP law is fuckery)

Carthag Tuek posted:

general fair use i assume, its ok to summarize a a scene from a movie in a school essay, and a book can apparently be 500 school essays intwined

probably the movie had a bunch of deals to get over (unless they just used generic standins, in which case i probably should have watched it)

Carthag Tuek posted:

probably the movie had a bunch of deals to get over (unless they just used generic standins, in which case i probably should have watched it)

Bro Dad posted:

they needed the chinese gamer to have a brand obsession and since the creator knows jack poo poo about china he's a lil kungfu kid that loves mortal kombat

www.bbc.com posted:

Police are investigating a virtual sexual assault of a girl's avatar, the chair of the Association of Police and Crime Commissioners has said.

Donna Jones said she had learned that a complaint was made in 2023, triggering a police inquiry.

The virtual incident did not result in physical harm but caused "psychological trauma", the Daily Mail has reported a source as saying.

Police chiefs have called on platforms to do more to protect their users.

Ian Critchley of the National Police Chiefs' Council (NPCC) wrote that the metaverse - a collective name given to a range of virtual 3D spaces and technologies - had created a "gateway for predators to commit horrific crimes against children, crimes we know have lifelong impacts both emotionally and mentally".

"We must see much more action from tech companies to do more to make their platforms safe places", he added.

The NPCC was unable to tell the BBC which force had launched the investigation into the attack.

The incident occurred in a virtual reality (VR) game, the Daily Mail reported.

The impact of the attack on the girl's avatar was said to be heightened because of the immersive nature of the VR experience.

According to an unnamed senior officer familiar with the matter who spoke to the paper the victim, under 16 at the time, suffered psychological trauma "similar to that of someone who has been physically raped".

But in criminal law, rape and sexual assault require there to have been physical contact.

Some argue that legal changes may be necessary to ensure that those responsible for sexually motivated attacks on avatars in virtual worlds can be prosecuted and punished effectively.

But others suggest there may be existing laws, for example against the creation of synthetic child abuse images, which could be used as the basis of prosecutions in virtual world cases.

Ms Jones told BBC Radio 4's World at One programme on Tuesday: "The police are having to work quickly. They're having to work in conjunction with the government, particularly with the Ministry of Justice, to highlight where there need to be changes in legislation."

It is not the first time that concerns about sexually motivated attacks in the metaverse have been raised.

In 2022, researcher Nina Jane Patel revealed she was abused in a virtual world operated by Meta called Horizon Venues (now part of Horizon Worlds), likening it to sexual assault.

Recalling the experience, Ms Patel told the same programme that she was "surrounded by three to four male-sounding and male-representing avatars, who started sexually harassing me in a verbal sense and then sexually assaulting my avatar".

She said they had used misogynistic language and "continued to touch my avatar in a way that can only be described as a sexual assault of my avatar".

Ms Patel added she was worried that, in the future, technology might allow someone to physically feel such virtual assaults.

The National Crime Agency has previously warned that police will need to be ready to deal with virtual sexual assaults in the future.

The BBC has not yet confirmed on which platform the attack on the young girl's avatar took place but Meta has said in a statement: "The kind of behaviour described has no place on our platform, which is why for all users we have an automatic protection called personal boundary, which keeps people you don't know a few feet away from you.

"Though we weren't given any details about what happened ahead of this story publishing, we will look into it as details become available to us."

Meta also employs a number of technologies specifically designed to limit teenage users' exposure to offensive content and interactions with people they do not know.

Kit Walker posted:

I grew up at a time where teabagging someone after killing them was just a thing people regularly did (online, not that that should need clarification) so it's really hard for me to feel strongly about it, but I suppose context changes things. Creeps should be banned from all online spaces anyway with no tolerance

Second Hand Meat Mouth posted:

tokin opposition posted:

Also the phrase "surrounded by three to four male-sounding and male-representing avatars" squicks me out for some reason and I'm unsure why

tokin opposition posted:

What's weird is that cops almost never actually investigate IRL sex crimes, which makes me wonder why they're doing it for videogame sexual harassment.

Which is obviously still bad, but uh, the log off button was there the entire time.

Biplane posted:

Investigating real crimes is hard, investigating imaginary computer crimes is easy.

tokin opposition posted:

Also the phrase "surrounded by three to four male-sounding and male-representing avatars" squicks me out for some reason and I'm unsure why

DACK FAYDEN posted:

like how Foodfight! had a bunch of deals to use actual brand icons but also inexplicably decided that everyone was really slavering for Dex Dogtective and some kind of racist squirrel pilot played by Wayne Brady(?!)

Platystemon posted:

It’s because “inclusive language” is being used to imply that the perps may have been trans.

starkebn posted:

nah, it's because they're digital avatars and the kid only had the voices to go by

silentsnack posted:

computers make it really easy to leave incriminating evidence out in the open where even the dumbest laziest detective can't convincingly look and not find it, yeah

Bar Ran Dun posted:

detectives work a relatively small number of cases that varies a bit by location. they might only have 5-25 cases open at a given time.

the short explanation is that basically most things get a basic report and then really nothing at all especially in larger cities. there’s literally no one working most of their files unless they’re serious things.

Biplane posted:

Seems bad.

Platystemon posted:

It’s not a totally novel thing where the authorities just have to throw up their hands and say “no laws were written for this situation”.

tokin opposition posted:

the problem with the law system are as follows:

1. cops
2. prosecutors
3. judges
4. non-public defenders
5. lawmakers
6. public defenders who don't care anymore (ie has been a public defender for over a week)
7. everyone else
8. you, the girl reading this

tokin opposition posted:

the problem with the law system are as follows:

1. cops
2. prosecutors
3. judges
4. non-public defenders
5. lawmakers
6. public defenders who don't care anymore (ie has been a public defender for over a week)
7. everyone else
8. you, the girl reading this

Biplane posted:

But I'm not a gi- oh...

tokin opposition posted:

the problem with the law system are as follows:

1. cops
2. prosecutors
3. judges
4. non-public defenders
5. lawmakers
6. public defenders who don't care anymore (ie has been a public defender for over a week)
7. everyone else
8. you, the girl reading this

tokin opposition posted:

What's weird is that cops almost never actually investigate IRL sex crimes, which makes me wonder why they're doing it for videogame sexual harassment.

Which is obviously still bad, but uh, the log off button was there the entire time.

tokin opposition posted:

What's weird is that cops almost never actually investigate IRL sex crimes, which makes me wonder why they're doing it for videogame sexual harassment.

Which is obviously still bad, but uh, the log off button was there the entire time.

quote:

DeAngelo later took post-graduate courses[33] and further police training at the College of the Sequoias in Visalia, then completed a 32-week police internship at the police department in Roseville.[37]

From May 1973 to August 1976, DeAngelo was a burglary unit police officer in Exeter, having relocated from Citrus Heights.[31] He then served in Auburn from August 1976 to July 1979, when he was arrested for shoplifting a hammer and dog repellent; he was sentenced to six months of probation and fired that October.[38][39] During the process of being fired, DeAngelo threatened to kill the chief of police and allegedly stalked the chief's house.[38]

Ghost Leviathan posted:

IIRC they also took so long to release the movie that they had to cut or genericise a lot of characters since the licensing deals had expired, on top of all the other problems with it.

DACK FAYDEN posted:

yeah I think this is also true, they just kind of randomly mention Mr. Clean and Chef Boyardee and I don't even know if they ever show up since I bet they lost the rights to that

but the scene with Christopher Lloyd as a decrepit nazi robot secretly piloted by a jilted prune mascot ranting about survival of the fittest as he slaps some chips around is incredible, so it's impossible to tell if it's bad or not