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Hieronymous Alloy posted:It does kinda make you wonder what exactly knocked him out so hard. Wasn’t it complications from cosmetic surgery? They could just have the deputy be acting Secretary indefinitely if they can’t get a new guy past Congress.
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Gripweed posted:Wasn’t it complications from cosmetic surgery? "Elective surgery," so not necessarily cosmetic, but it was not something medically necessary.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:"Elective surgery," so not necessarily cosmetic, but it was not something medically necessary. In the absence of official confirmation, I’m going to be assuming it was pec implants.
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Gripweed posted:In the absence of official confirmation, I’m going to be assuming it was pec implants. SecDef showing up at the next press conference looking like Handsome Squidward.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:"Elective surgery," so not necessarily cosmetic, but it was not something medically necessary. Or that was just a lie. I mean national security.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Or that was just a lie. I mean national security. He probably wouldn't be in much trouble if he were rushed to the hospital for a medical emergency unexpectedly. It seems like he told his deputy that he would be out, but didn't tell him why. He also didn't tell anyone else. So I think the issue is that he didn't tell anyone rather than the fact that he was in the hospital at all.
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obvious cover story for parachuting him into north korea on a one man commando mission to rescue jack ryan
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Gripweed posted:Wasn’t it complications from cosmetic surgery? That starts getting into legally iffy territory, though, the longer it goes on, as we saw with Trump. But as we also saw with Trump, he could be replaced with literally anyone else who has also been confirmed by Congress, because the legal requirement is per person, not per person per office. Although I guess SecDef has a bit more job requirements than the typical cabinet position, so might not be quite as interchangeable as they are.
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Fuschia tude posted:That starts getting into legally iffy territory, though, the longer it goes on, as we saw with Trump. Bah gawd, is that Secretary Buttigieg’s music?!
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Gripweed posted:In the absence of official confirmation, I’m going to be assuming it was pec implants. Dick embiggening surgery.
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Young Freud posted:Dick embiggening surgery. Honestly, the two most likely scenarios are: 1) He went in for a minor elective surgery and didn't think it would be a big deal, but there was some complication/surgical error that put him out for a day or two and he didn't think to call because he and his doctors were trying to figure out what happened. He should have called once he was up, but somewhat understandable to forget/try to figure out what happened to you during a minor elective procedure first in that scenario. 2) He went in for an extremely embarrassing elective surgery (such as dick embiggening surgery) and didn't want anyone to know. Some complication/surgical error put him out for a day or two and he thought he could wait it out for another day and then come back without having to explain his dick embiggening surgery to anyone or have it be national news. The timeline of what we know is: - He called the deputy and said to take over for a bit (did not say why and just said he would be out). - Went to get minor elective surgery - ~*Something*~ happened. - He went to the emergency room for a night. - He was in the normal hospital ward for two days. - He finally called to let them know where he was. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Jan 8, 2024 |
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Speaking from having family be laid low by complications after surgery, they can knock you on your rear end for a long time. Something that should be a quick surgery/stitchup/send the patient home in an afternoon turns into a several-month long affair because whoops, at some point something wasn't properly sanitized and infection set in.
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He might not have been conscious enough to make the call if something went wrong and they shoved a lot of drugs into him to stabilize him.
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We get people that end up in the ICU after colonoscopies (normally outpatient) because sometimes things happen like accidentally perforating the colon.
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AtomikKrab posted:He might not have been conscious enough to make the call if something went wrong and they shoved a lot of drugs into him to stabilize him. Once he was out of the emergency room, it seems pretty unlikely that he was unconscious and had no opportunity to call anyone for the next two days. Even if he was out of it for all three days, he should have at least let his deputy know that the reason he would be out for a bit before he left. If everyone knew it was supposed to be an afternoon or a day for an elective surgery, then people would think to check on him after 2 days.
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A spy slipped a bug into the incision when no one was looking
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haveblue posted:A spy slipped a bug into the incision when no one was looking Finally, after years of research and patience, and some bribes to the right nurses, project Reverse Acoustic
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Newsom announces the date for the special election to fill Kevin McCarthy's seat. It is a solid red district and only one Democrat has announced - teacher Marisa Wood (who also ran against McCarthy in 2022). There are 8 Republicans considering running in the jungle primary. The leading candidate is California Assemblyman Vince Fong, but he is currently in a legal battle to determine whether he can even run. He already filed papers to appear on the 2024 ballot in California for his assembly seat, but California law prevents someone from appearing on the ballot for two different offices. He could run in the special election, but would only be able to serve a few months and could not appear on the 2024 ballot if he loses his lawsuit. If Fong is unable to run, then a long list of relatively obscure Republicans will be the nominee. It will be one of: quote:Small business owner David Giglio. There is also a former Democrat running as an independent - "Science professional" Ben Dewell - and another independent: Bakersfield business owner TJ Esposito. Edit: After googling, Ben Dewell is a meteorologist and weatherman. I have no idea why he decided he wanted to include "Science Professional" in his title instead of meteorologist. https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1744420899384598711 Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Jan 8, 2024 |
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Randalor posted:Speaking from having family be laid low by complications after surgery, they can knock you on your rear end for a long time. Something that should be a quick surgery/stitchup/send the patient home in an afternoon turns into a several-month long affair because whoops, at some point something wasn't properly sanitized and infection set in. In early 2023, a friend in her early-50s died on the table during an elective surgery. And in late 2023, our school's front office worker in her 40s stroked out on the table during an elective surgery. I had a call into a bariatric surgery place around the time I heard about the second person, and I quickly decided against the surgery. It's like the Max 737 Alaska flight, there are hundreds of flights every day that fly with no problem, but just enough crash or malfunction for me to worry. Back on topic, has there been any more public backlash against Speaker Johnson and his exact same spending deal as McCarthy? Anyone calling for a new speaker vote, preferably after Jan 21st when (other) Rep. Johnson retires and before Scalise comes back from his stem cell treatments?
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At least the initial reports said he was in the ICU a couple of days. So if he had something like an anesthesia complication from some surgery that was expected to be minor and home the same day he could have been incapacitated i.e. on a ventilator and sedated for a day or so and unable to notify anyone. In that instance to not tell his chain of command that he was having surgery and have a contingency plan was irresponsible. I could see where he was having something “embarassing” like cosmetic surgery, penile implant, getting warts lasered off his weenie or taint etc. and did not want to tell anyone but you have to consider the possibility of unexpected problems. A colonoscopy (usually home and essentially back to normal same day) could also be complicated by a perforation requiring surgery and a hospital stay, or, again, anesthesia complications. Zwabu fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Jan 8, 2024 |
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Once he was out of the emergency room, it seems pretty unlikely that he was unconscious and had no opportunity to call anyone for the next two days. Operating room, and if he went from OR to the ICU, then again, he might not even have been awake enough to make a call out. Now really there should be a thing where you tell whoever that you are going in for a same day in and out, if I am not back by X time, then notify the president something went wrong etc etc.
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VorpalBunny posted:Back on topic, has there been any more public backlash against Speaker Johnson and his exact same spending deal as McCarthy? Anyone calling for a new speaker vote, preferably after Jan 21st when (other) Rep. Johnson retires and before Scalise comes back from his stem cell treatments? Ironically, it is actually slightly worse (for republicans in terms of spending) than McCarthy's deal because it only covers one year and has slightly more "wasteful" discretionary spending. And yes, the Freedom Caucus and several Republicans have said it is "unacceptable" and Chip Roy is leading a group who will try to block it and force a government shutdown because it doesn't include any border provisions. Nobody is talking about deposing Speaker Johnson as of yet, though. https://twitter.com/RepChipRoy/status/1744386682579792301 Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 20:01 on Jan 8, 2024 |
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Chip Roy preparing to smack the hornet's nest again, thinking this time it will totally work.
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Angry_Ed posted:Chip Roy preparing to smack the hornet's nest again, thinking this time it will totally work. He's mostly grandstanding because he knows there are enough Republicans who won't shut down the government for 10 months in an election year to bail him out. It is funny that Republicans aren't even really pretending to act like spending cuts were important to them anymore. They basically threw in the towel on any spending cuts once they got a chunk of the bonus IRS enforcement money. The highest priorities are immigration and not enforcing tax collection on wealthy people. They aren't even proposing specific cuts anymore because it is unpopular and pointless. The only major riders that Republicans are fighting to include in the budget are related to immigration and, weirdly, micromanaging very specific policies in D.C. They have proposed amendments to prevent D.C. from using automated traffic enforcement in any form, prevent D.C. from expanding abortion and birth control funding, and to stop D.C. from modifying any commercial or residential zoning rules in Southwest D.C. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Jan 8, 2024 |
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rscott posted:By far the funniest piece of the Claudine Gay saga is Bill Ackman's wife getting caught plagiarizing from Wikipedia of all places, and his all too predictable meltdown over how unfair the media was being to his wife In a new darkly hilarious development that every Republican free speech-defender is surely widely criticizing, the new German owner of Business Insider is now promising to "review" their report on Neri Oxman (Bill Ackman's wife)'s plagiarism after Ackman implied Business Insider was doing so because Oxman is Israeli. quote:The person familiar with Axel Springer’s discussions said company leaders are concerned that the reporting on Oxman could have been antisemitic or anti-Zionist — even though it consists primarily of straightforward comparisons between Oxman’s publications and the texts she allegedly plagiarized from.
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Combed Thunderclap posted:In a new darkly hilarious development that every Republican free speech-defender is surely widely criticizing, the new German owner of Business Insider is now promising to "review" their report on Neri Oxman (Bill Ackman's wife)'s plagiarism after Ackman implied Business Insider was doing so because Oxman is Israeli. Motherfucker typed north of 5k words on twitter. Holy poo poo.
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Since all the Republican candidates seem to be making weird civil war statements this week, Trump has decided to stay very on-brand and claims that he could have prevented the civil war if he was President at the time by making a deal with the south and that Lincoln made a huge mistake. He also seems to imply that Lincoln started the civil war because he wanted to be remembered in the history books. https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1744444127045951917 quote:Former President Trump said he believed the Civil War could have been avoided through negotiation, though that would’ve changed the legacy of former President Lincoln.
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Xiahou Dun posted:Motherfucker typed north of 5k words on twitter. Holy poo poo. According to the Financial Times Ackman has posted 28,200 words on Twitter since December 1st
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rscott posted:According to the Financial Times Ackman has posted 28,200 words on Twitter since December 1st The man is worth $4 billion and has chosen to spend all his time arguing with people on Twitter. Maybe billionaires do have a lot more in common with regular people than we thought.
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rscott posted:According to the Financial Times Ackman has posted 28,200 words on Twitter since December 1st Wearing his thumbs down to nubs, one tweet at a time.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The man is worth $4 billion and has chosen to spend all his time arguing with people on Twitter. Many of them don't have real interactions, in person, with someone who isn't also a billionaire or dependent on them for status/income. So the novelty of getting told to screw themselves by some random person is thrilling.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The man is worth $4 billion and has chosen to spend all his time arguing with people on Twitter. The difference being he was able to get the head of an Ivy league university shitcanned with those words. I don't think your going to convince anyone in his camp he was wasting his time, he won.
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DynamicSloth posted:The difference being he was able to get the head of an Ivy league university shitcanned with those words. I don't think your going to convince anyone in his camp he was wasting his time, he won. Only a couple thousand were about Harvard directly. The vast majority have been his multiple essays about how unfairly they are treating his wife and yelling at people while defending his wife's plagiarism. A full 20% of all his words typed into Twitter in the last month were in the last 48 hours.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Since all the Republican candidates seem to be making weird civil war statements this week, Trump has decided to stay very on-brand and claims that he could have prevented the civil war if he was President at the time by making a deal with the south and that Lincoln made a huge mistake. I know that it’s Trump and he just Says poo poo without even pretending to have thought behind it and follow l-up questions would be pointless, But god dammit so want to know what he thinks the deal would be.
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The Lord of Hats posted:I know that it’s Trump and he just Says poo poo without even pretending to have thought behind it and follow l-up questions would be pointless, So, there was talking in the runup to the war of something called the Crittendon Compromise. It basically intended to put in the US constitution a boundary line between slave and free states, as well as constitutionally banning personal liberty laws while putting the Fugitive Slave Acts in the constitution itself. The problem is, there was never really any support for it in the north. It was seen as a maximalist demand at the end of a line of maximalist demands throughout the 1850s in the north and was never going to be the basis of a serious negotiated settlement. For reference, the Dred Scott decision for example had called into question whether a state could actually ban slavery altogether.
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The Lord of Hats posted:But god dammit so want to know what he thinks the deal would be.
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haveblue posted:South can have a little slavery, as a treat No, I believe you'll find that was called "Reconstruction"
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