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Maybe Calders related to the red dragon of reddragonsville that Horace Greenhilt killed?
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This will be resolved through some sort of pun, something like Calder's Bait
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Jan 8, 2024 20:27
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He got a name? Better watch out! Googling said name, though, and first result was Alexander Calder. Made my wonder what being named after that artist could imply (where's the art history majors when you need them?) SKULL.GIF posted:I was right! Wrong on the color, it wasn't a gold dragon, it was a red dragon! But the dragon in that drawing has a broken horn and purple wings just like Calder does here. drat. Good call!
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Jan 8, 2024 20:42
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Calder sounds very fire-related, but apparently means "stream" or something like that.
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Jan 8, 2024 20:44
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I'm assuming it's Calder as in "caldera", the volcanic feature, derived from the word cauldron for obvious reasons.
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Jan 8, 2024 20:51
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I just assumed it was short for Caldera Anyway he looks big, old, intelligent, and powerful. So he's likely to be a big problem. Like even assuming he's a stage or two younger than the Ancient Black that V fought, he would still be more powerful than it. If he's older than them like he looks than he is way way more powerful. MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Jan 8, 2024 |
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Jan 8, 2024 20:52
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Dungeon ✅ Dragon ✅
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Jan 8, 2024 21:14
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my daughter just lost her mind at that strip, extremely exciting to get initiativey after a long time. plus oots dragons are always a good time, one way or another.
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Jan 9, 2024 00:26
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Raenir Salazar posted:I'm pretty sure this is an ancient wyrm given the beard. also the way it talks, that's badass style speakin
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Jan 9, 2024 00:29
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You can hear the bold font when that dragon talks. Incredible. And yet again, were seeing Richs skills as an artist improve.
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Jan 9, 2024 01:54
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Title of the comic is The Thaw, so very very likely that Calder has been in stasis for a long time.
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Jan 9, 2024 02:38
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sebmojo posted:also the way it talks, that's badass style speakin Unquestionably polite. Urbane, direct, and dismissive. Utterly dangerous. Victor von Doom is often written the same way.
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Jan 9, 2024 02:49
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I almost kind of want them to talk him down. It probably won't happen, given Calder's wholly-justified resentment, though.
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Jan 9, 2024 03:05
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What's all this about Kaldur?
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Jan 9, 2024 03:09
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:I almost kind of want them to talk him down. It probably won't happen, given Calder's wholly-justified resentment, though. is this a major challenge for a rested party at this level? my instinct says no, but i guess they're spell casters so that can change things up. an ancient red dragon is quite considerable though, wow
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Jan 9, 2024 03:55
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sebmojo posted:is this a major challenge for a rested party at this level? my instinct says no, but i guess they're spell casters so that can change things up. That link isn't what the 3.5e Monster Manual would have but I think is just random homebrew that's using the SRD/OGL to create a powerful Red Dragon. You wanna look here: https://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/dragonTrue.htm I think vanilla MM ARD doesn't have as many spells as listed in your link, but it's still pretty powerful.
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sebmojo posted:is this a major challenge for a rested party at this level? my instinct says no, but i guess they're spell casters so that can change things up. It's probably a challenge on the level of fighting Team Evil so it's not going to require some crazy luck for the Order to win but victory is going to cost them. My guess is they break Sunny out of it and she stops negating the magic circle that Calder has been trapped in which lets the Order move on bruised but not completely wiped out. Which will leave the dragon there for the other party to come across and making the final battle that much worse.
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I'm hoping Calder decides to turn the party's magic off, and then we get a splash page of a Tyrannosaurus Rex fighting an Ancient Wyrm.
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Raenir Salazar posted:That link isn't what the 3.5e Monster Manual would have but I think is just random homebrew that's using the SRD/OGL to create a powerful Red Dragon. It's not a random homebrew, but it is for the wrong systemit's the Pathfinder 1e stats, not the 3.5 stats.
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oobey posted:I'm hoping Calder decides to turn the party's magic off, and then we get a splash page of a Tyrannosaurus Rex fighting an Ancient Wyrm. Same.
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:I almost kind of want them to talk him down. It probably won't happen, given Calder's wholly-justified resentment, though. I think "resentment" isn't the only issue, considering he thinks that Roy was "insufficiently servile". He's clearly not interested in a conversation as equals, he's just willing to consider pleas for their lives.
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We can likely assume Calder was beaten by Serini & Kraagor at some point, and given the combined might/subterfuge theme of this dungeon thus far, the Order is probably uniquely suited to defeating Calder as well. I don't know if the Serini/Kraagor pair, even if they were 20th-level or epic, are stronger than the Order plus the paladins plus old-Serini and Mimi.
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SKULL.GIF posted:We can likely assume Calder was beaten by Serini & Kraagor at some point, and given the combined might/subterfuge theme of this dungeon thus far, the Order is probably uniquely suited to defeating Calder as well. Apparently the Order of the Scribble as a whole defeated him, as there was an image of them fighting a Dragon and cutting off one of it's horns. Raenir Salazar posted:That link isn't what the 3.5e Monster Manual would have but I think is just random homebrew that's using the SRD/OGL to create a powerful Red Dragon.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Apparently the Order of the Scribble as a whole defeated him, as there was an image of them fighting a Dragon and cutting off one of it's horns. Which image is this?
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SKULL.GIF posted:Which image is this? It's from the calendars, specifically February 2015. That's, uh, quite a while ago!
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Jan 9, 2024 05:32
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Looking again at the comic I notice Calder is Trogdor-shaped.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Assuming he's Ancient he has 4 CR on the Black, but he could also be a Wyrm or Great Wyrm who are even stronger. He's a massive threat. As a side note, Dragons are pretty infamous in 3.5 for being CR'd a few points lower than what they should be because "A fight with a dragon is supposed to be hard."
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Jan 9, 2024 05:50
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1e dragons were comically weak, they've been making up for that ever since
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SKULL.GIF posted:Looking again at the comic I notice Calder is Trogdor-shaped. The S is for sucks.
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Pseudoscorpion posted:The S is for sucks. Something something consummate V
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:Something something consummate V V's marriage has basically ended, consummation is out of the question. At least their family didn't live in a thatch-roofed cottage.
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ultrafilter posted:That seems pretty likely. This appears to be a fairly young red dragon, and not something that would be a major challenge to the party in a fight, so there has to be some other reason to introduce it now. Yeah i'm sure this wrinkly dragon with a beard is a baby that'll go down in a single strip
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I kinda forgot Serini was a halfling, and not just of species: gramma, so I wondered what kind of beef that dragon had with Belkar.
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goblin week posted:Yeah i'm sure this wrinkly dragon with a beard is a baby that'll go down in a single strip Villains that get a splash panel and a badass intro monologue tend to die as a throw away gag in the following strip, yeah
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Pseudoscorpion posted:The S is for sucks. On my planet, it means "hope"
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ZearothK posted:Villains that get a splash panel and a badass intro monologue tend to die as a throw away gag in the following strip, yeah A flumph is going to fall on Calder's head, instantly killing him.
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Man, thinking about it, I don't know if there's a realistic outcome where Serini isn't killed or taken out of the game in the course of this fight. A lot of narrative threads are coming together here:
Calder is uniquely suited to take down Serini. The fire-breathing disables her trollish regeneration, and only a few pages ago she just got her own team to waste spells because of the trick acid pool. Everyone else in the Order of the Scribble answered for their past deeds in one way or another, and Serini's coming due. She was so concerned about Xykon but had none for any internal threats lurking in her dungeon. The real reason I think this is what's going to happen is because if Serini is taken out of the picture, the Order of the Stick is suddenly in an extremely lethal dungeon without the dungeon's designer guiding them past all the deadly traps and encounter designs. They might still have Sunny and Mimi, but odds are pretty good neither have the full breadth and depth of understanding of the dungeon that Serini does. This ratchets up the stakes considerably for the Order racing through the remainder of the dungeon to get to the Gate, while Team Evil gets to deal with all the traps and encounters we saw Serini help the Order bypass in earlier pages. No chance all that cool stuff gets mentioned and explained without actually getting to see it in action, and also IMO no chance we don't get to see the Order flex their full dungeon-solving abilities in the final dungeon of the story. This would also fully square Serini's disrespect of the youngins: they'd be able to "prove themselves" by solving her dungeon.
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Not sure if I missed something or if we're not supposed to know at this point, but how was Calder able to charm Sunny in the previous strip? At first I thought the lens had fallen off by accident (it's roughly in front of the position where Sunny was last strip), but then we have Calder specifically ask him to antimagic-eye the circle in this strip, and then the dragon gets to move. So, from the last time we saw Sunny up until the middle of this strip, Calder was able to use telepathy and cast spells but still physically immobilized by the stasis circle. But we know he wasn't mentally awake all this time (which would frankly make his revenge extremely sympathetic, locked-in syndrome is nightmare torture stuff even when surrounded by caretakers and loved ones), because he mentions that he is unaware of the amount of time that has passed. So I'm confused about how those circles work, and I donīt know if I'm supposed to be.
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NihilCredo posted:Not sure if I missed something or if we're not supposed to know at this point, but how was Calder able to charm Sunny in the previous strip? At first I thought the lens had fallen off by accident (it's roughly in front of the position where Sunny was last strip), but then we have Calder specifically ask him to antimagic-eye the circle in this strip, and then the dragon gets to move. It feels like the kind of thing Serini will explain at the beginning of the next page
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Elan helpfully reminded people that sunny shoots anti magic out of her eye in this strip
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