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wielder
Feb 16, 2008

"You had best not do that, Avatar!"

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

i don't think the main relationship really worked at all. he just acted like he was her dad 99% of the time.

Absolutely, it wasn't great in terms of power dynamics. Still, at least there was a focus on both sides complementing each other.

Thus why I'll admit it's not a shining beacon of romance or anything. You'd get way more out of, say, a Macross love triangle in that respect.

I'm kinder towards the show, comparatively, because of the Kimura designs and how it (plus Nanoha) got me out of a Kiminozo-induced slump way back in the ancient year of 2003.

wielder fucked around with this message at 05:35 on Jan 8, 2024

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Light Gun Man
Oct 17, 2009

toEjaM iS oN
vaCatioN




Lipstick Apathy
i'll defend (most of) Godannar. It's fun.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Light Gun Man posted:

i'll defend (most of) Godannar. It's fun.

The first OP is really fun.

I recall thinking it would have been better if instead of the actual female lead the secondary female lead was the co-protagonist and the actual female lead just... probably doesn't exist?

Kanos
Sep 6, 2006

was there a time when speedwagon didn't get trolled
Anna is great and if Mira was the lead it would be a much worse series. The main pairing in Godannar isn't great but all of the best moments involving it are when Go tries to be The Brave Stoic Sacrificial Man of the House and Anna basically tells him to shut the gently caress up and stop trying to shoulder everything alone.

Light Gun Man
Oct 17, 2009

toEjaM iS oN
vaCatioN




Lipstick Apathy
they would be fine if it wasn't for the age gap, I think. that makes it weird. they otherwise do seem like they are a decent couple that will grow into a strong one over time and compliment each other.

they don't really dig much into their feelings re: being newlyweds that keep having more sudden household members either which is perhaps a missed opportunity but yeah with the age gap....maybe for the best.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Kanos posted:

Anna is great and if Mira was the lead it would be a much worse series. The main pairing in Godannar isn't great but all of the best moments involving it are when Go tries to be The Brave Stoic Sacrificial Man of the House and Anna basically tells him to shut the gently caress up and stop trying to shoulder everything alone.

Didn't mean Mira, meant Shizuku, sorry.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
At the risk of having a Bad Opinion I was listening to the GaoGaiGar OP and when I read the lyrics it struck me that it was the equivalent of 90s and early 2000s North American anime intros that either shout the name of the show repeatedly or slip into Plot Summary Lyrics.

Justin_Brett
Oct 23, 2012

GAMERDOME put down LOSER
That's most classic Super Robot openings

Snake Maze
Jul 13, 2016

3.85 Billion years ago
  • Having seen the explosion on the moon, the Devil comes to Venus

Arc Hammer posted:

At the risk of having a Bad Opinion I was listening to the GaoGaiGar OP and when I read the lyrics it struck me that it was the equivalent of 90s and early 2000s North American anime intros that either shout the name of the show repeatedly or slip into Plot Summary Lyrics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7_Od9CmTu0

If it works it works :shrug:

Kanos
Sep 6, 2006

was there a time when speedwagon didn't get trolled

Dawgstar posted:

Didn't mean Mira, meant Shizuku, sorry.

Oh! In that case, Shizuru is a much more compelling character than Mira, yeah, and her relationship with Go is more interesting, so you could probably make something work there.

I think I'd still miss Anna, though. A big role of hers in the plot is that everyone else is willing to make heroic sacrifices and make The Hard Choices and Anna's there to show up and call them all stupid morons for trying to make those heroic sacrifices instead of figuring out another way.

Kanos fucked around with this message at 00:54 on Jan 9, 2024

SatoshiMiwa
May 6, 2007


Arc Hammer posted:

At the risk of having a Bad Opinion I was listening to the GaoGaiGar OP and when I read the lyrics it struck me that it was the equivalent of 90s and early 2000s North American anime intros that either shout the name of the show repeatedly or slip into Plot Summary Lyrics.

Brave series was always a kids show aimed at real young kids aged 3 to 5 so this makes perfect sense and even though it didn't end as a kids show no point changing the style for Final

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

Arc Hammer posted:

At the risk of having a Bad Opinion I was listening to the GaoGaiGar OP and when I read the lyrics it struck me that it was the equivalent of 90s and early 2000s North American anime intros that either shout the name of the show repeatedly or slip into Plot Summary Lyrics.

Yeah it's pretty rad

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

If you don't think the singer shouting attack names is cool then I don't know what you're doing watching shows like GaoGaiGar to be frank.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
I didn't say it was bad, just that it reminded me of something like the Canadian DBZ intro that is just shouting Dragon Ball Zeeeeeeeee on repeat. My Bad Opinion warning was more comparing an OP to the rather maligned (with notable exceptions) late 90s practice of ditching the original song for a usually pretty bad new intro tune. It's funny to me to realize that those old English intros weren't actually too far off the mark.

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

Arc Hammer posted:

I didn't say it was bad, just that it reminded me of something like the Canadian DBZ intro that is just shouting Dragon Ball Zeeeeeeeee on repeat. My Bad Opinion warning was more comparing an OP to the rather maligned (with notable exceptions) late 90s practice of ditching the original song for a usually pretty bad new intro tune. It's funny to me to realize that those old English intros weren't actually too far off the mark.

I like how the dub for Escaflowne's opening song was just "Esca...flowne." over and over again too. Also Big O! Big O, Big O, Big O!

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

Nuebot posted:

I like how the dub for Escaflowne's opening song was just "Esca...flowne." over and over again too. Also Big O! Big O, Big O, Big O!

The first time someone hears the full version of the Big O theme is such a revelation. It was a Queen song the whole time!

Kanos
Sep 6, 2006

was there a time when speedwagon didn't get trolled

Arc Hammer posted:

I didn't say it was bad, just that it reminded me of something like the Canadian DBZ intro that is just shouting Dragon Ball Zeeeeeeeee on repeat. My Bad Opinion warning was more comparing an OP to the rather maligned (with notable exceptions) late 90s practice of ditching the original song for a usually pretty bad new intro tune. It's funny to me to realize that those old English intros weren't actually too far off the mark.

If there was a hypothetical TV dub release of Gaogaigar that ditched the original lyrics and just had a dude singing the word "Gaogaigar" over and over, that would have sucked rear end.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Kanos posted:

If there was a hypothetical TV dub release of Gaogaigar that ditched the original lyrics and just had a dude singing the word "Gaogaigar" over and over, that would have sucked rear end.

If it was just the part of the OP where they sing "GA GA GA - GA GA GA GaoGaiGar" on repeat I'd be fine with that. It's pretty sick.

Also, on the topic of Super Robots, Mazinkaiser is coming to Blu Ray

https://twitter.com/discotekmedia/status/1744541788814352426?t=hunXaU9I8mVbZj1BslTFqw&s=19

Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 04:00 on Jan 9, 2024

Booky
Feb 21, 2013

Chill Bug


discoteks also gotten god sigma!! https://twitter.com/discotekmedia/status/1744547295440564502

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine
Also Albegas, Medarot Damashii(which had been previously announced but had to be delayed for a while because they realized it had never been given an official English title separate from just being season three of the dubbed version, so they had to get an approved English name, which is Medabots Spirit), and the remaining seasons of Sgt Frog

Schwarzwald
Jul 27, 2004

Don't Blink
oh yes, I love gladiator voltron

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Tranzor Z was my first giant robot thing ever but I've never really ventured into the series proper aside from seeing the Mazinger movie when it came to theaters here some years ago.

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

Dawgstar posted:

Tranzor Z was my first giant robot thing ever but I've never really ventured into the series proper aside from seeing the Mazinger movie when it came to theaters here some years ago.

Both the Mazinkaiser OVA and Shin Mazinger are really good

Mecha
Dec 20, 2003

「チェンジ ゲッタ-1! スイッチ オン!」

Schwarzwald posted:

oh yes, I love gladiator voltron
DID SOMEBODY SAY GLADIATOR VOLTRON https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8t4cHz9IAQ

Seemlar
Jun 18, 2002

Dawgstar posted:

Tranzor Z was my first giant robot thing ever but I've never really ventured into the series proper aside from seeing the Mazinger movie when it came to theaters here some years ago.

drrockso20 posted:

Both the Mazinkaiser OVA and Shin Mazinger are really good

Mazinkaiser is terrific in that it's really a "what your brain remembers Mazinger Z being, not what Mazinger Z actually was" show, and Shin is great other than how a whole lot of people seemingly bounced off the in media res opening back in it's day

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

Great great stuff for sure. Don't wanna know why everybody ready get it on!

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



Dawgstar posted:

Tranzor Z was my first giant robot thing ever but I've never really ventured into the series proper aside from seeing the Mazinger movie when it came to theaters here some years ago.

I'll admit my favorite Mazinger thing is Mazinkaizer SKL, which is more "What if Mazinger Z was Getter Robo", and I'm always game for that. (As contrasted with the anime for Getter Robo Go, which was "What if Getter Robo was Mazinger?")

Just two absolute psychos smashing their way through an island full of bandit warlords as the one surviving technical specialist tries to keep them in line enough to let her do her job of saving the world from exploding.

Siegkrow
Oct 11, 2013

Arguing about Lore for 5 years and counting



I still want Shin Great Mazinger.

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine
SKL is also really good but like God Mazinger it is only loosely connected to the wider franchise

Seemlar posted:

Mazinkaiser is terrific in that it's really a "what your brain remembers Mazinger Z being, not what Mazinger Z actually was" show, and Shin is great other than how a whole lot of people seemingly bounced off the in media res opening back in it's day

Yeah I still kind of waffle back and forth on whether to suggest skipping over episode 1 and just watching it at the very end of the show after the final episode or not, cause it can't really be skipped over entirely(there's a couple bits missing if you do) and if you do watch it as the first episode it spoils a lot of things and kind of ruins a lot of the twists and mysteries of the show not to mention even though it's obviously meant to be so it is just a confusing mess that is more likely to make someone not want to watch the show more than anything

Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
LOWTAX'S SPINE FUND

Siegkrow posted:

I still want Shin Great Mazinger.

My greatest dream that will never come true...

Schwarzwald
Jul 27, 2004

Don't Blink
Shin Mazinger is a fantastic 13 episode series that is unfortunately 26 episodes long. Still, it's highs are pretty drat high.

Siegkrow posted:

I still want Shin Great Mazinger.

100%

ACES CURE PLANES
Oct 21, 2010



I would definitely be down for another SKL in some form, it was a big dumb fun metal album cover. Somehow I've still never seen Shin though.

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

The real problem with Shin is that the first OP is so good it totally overshadows the second OP, which is unfair because the second OP is quite good.

King of Solomon
Oct 23, 2008

S S
Learning that Discotek put out a bunch of Mazinger blurays was incredibly bad for my wallet last night.

Looking forward to drilling into those shows more when I get the opportunity though. I loved Shin Mazinger and Mazinkaiser SKL, I'm really looking forward to seeing a lot of the original shows.

Schwarzwald
Jul 27, 2004

Don't Blink
Original Mazinger is wild for like, not quite being a super robot show in the way they'd become. Feels almost Hanna-Barbera at times.

Mister Olympus
Oct 31, 2011

Buzzard, Who Steals From Dead Bodies
The loss of the crabstick subs is a loss of a great way to appreciate old mazinger tbh. the plots are basic enough that you can understand everything even when the subs are nonsense, and the nonsense elevates it

King of Solomon
Oct 23, 2008

S S

Schwarzwald posted:

Original Mazinger is wild for like, not quite being a super robot show in the way they'd become. Feels almost Hanna-Barbera at times.

That's pretty exciting in and of itself, of course, but I'm also going to have access to things I've never seen in any form before like Great Mazinger (what with Shin Great Mazinger not happening and all.) There's a lot of quality mecha anime in my near future.

Willo567
Feb 5, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 12 hours!
I think I'd enjoy the original Mazinger Z anime more if Kouji wasn't such a giantic sexist poo poo head

Kanos
Sep 6, 2006

was there a time when speedwagon didn't get trolled

Willo567 posted:

I think I'd enjoy the original Mazinger Z anime more if Kouji wasn't such a giantic sexist poo poo head

Extremely regrettably and unfortunately, it was the style at the time.

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Fivemarks
Feb 21, 2015

Willo567 posted:

I think I'd enjoy the original Mazinger Z anime more if Kouji wasn't such a giantic sexist poo poo head

At the very least, depending on the episode, Sayaka does NOT put up with that poo poo.

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