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Diarrhea Elemental
Apr 2, 2012

Am I correct in my assumption, you fish-faced enemy of the people?

Fivemarks posted:

Are we going to talk about the secret Messianic Ultraorthodox Jewish Tunnels discovered under New York City? Because I swear I'm not making it up.

https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/new...eo-roundup.html


quote:

The crowd of meshichist bochrim responded to the NYPD with violence befitting animals in Gaza (see videos below).

That's, uh, one hell of a source.

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Fivemarks
Feb 21, 2015

Soul Dentist posted:

Uh...

Cool cool

Wait what the gently caress, I didn't read that part, I was just looking for a source on the whole thing that wasn't just a twitter video. Let me find something better.

Edit: Updated with a link to a more reputable news source.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Soul Dentist posted:

Uh...

Cool cool

There are words that are identifiably English in there, but I don't think I comprehend any of it.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

A.o.D. posted:

There are words that are identifiably English in there, but I don't think I comprehend any of it.

A fundamentalist cult broke into opposing camps after the death of the cult's leader.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chabad_messianism

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

Exciting Lemon

Tiny Timbs posted:

I've been through a hundred accountability drills and for this to happen with a commander, their superior, and their staff would be literally unthinkable, never mind the SecDef. Biden should accept his resignation.

Then he'd lose his healthcare, and that would be rude behavior and the democratic bench would frown on such treatment.

carrionman
Oct 30, 2010
Where do they come from, where do they go?

Where do they come from, the rabbi hole Joes?

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
X, the everything app is going great you guys.

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

Exciting Lemon
I hope someone ties their AI powered trading algorithm to twitter and Knight Capital's themselves out of a billion dollars.

The story of Knight Capital is just the best finance/techbro idiocy schadenfreude

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

X, the everything app is going great you guys.



https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1278764736876773383

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008


Sue Elon's Company?

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.
Bais Medrash = study hall
meshichist = one of the camps, the other are the anti-meshivists - broadly, the split is over whether the dead cult leader is The Messiah or not
bochrim = young, unmarried male, esp. a yeshiva student
yeshiva = religious school
Lubavitcher = another word for Chabadism
Makom Kadosh = sacred place

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

joat mon posted:

Bais Medrash = study hall
meshichist = one of the camps, the other are the anti-meshivists - broadly, the split is over whether the dead cult leader is The Messiah or not
bochrim = young, unmarried male, esp. a yeshiva student
yeshiva = religious school
Lubavitcher = another word for Chabadism
Makom Kadosh = sacred place

This is really loving helpful but.. and I'm probably way off base here, should I be getting a Taliban vibe from this, be cause that's kind of what's happening in my head.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

McNally posted:

I did a little bit of digging
:mcnally:

McNally posted:

and came up with a couple explanations, one of which was "these young men belong to a particular orthodoxy that requires strict gender segregation and the tunnels were dug under the women's section so they could see naked women," another was "one Hasidic sect wanted to control more space than another sect, hence the tunnels."

I can see either of these or both of them to be true simultaneously.
I think it's a fight for control of the building between the two camps


A.o.D. posted:

This is really loving helpful but.. and I'm probably way off base here, should I be getting a Taliban vibe from this, be cause that's kind of what's happening in my head.
You are 100% correct. Exactly the same stuff, just in a different wrapper

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

from what I can put together on the tunnel thing it's deep internal faction politics within the group but it's very telling that this all started with the leaders of the two factions that have been engaged in mortal lawfare for decades over which one owns the building jointly deciding to fill the tunnels and ask the police to escort Team Tunnel out.

The diggers are a third offshoot group from the more extreme of the previous two and have unlocked a flavor of monotheism so extreme that feuding hassidic rabbis put aside their differences to to say in unison "You guys are too fuckin weird man, you gotta go"

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


Vincent Van Goatse posted:

X, the everything app is going great you guys.



I can't recall which podcast I heard it on but using the full name "X, the everything app," to refer to poo poo breaking on Twitter or endless porno ads makes it 100% funnier

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Nick Soapdish posted:

I can't recall which podcast I heard it on but using the full name "X, the everything app," to refer to poo poo breaking on Twitter or endless porno ads makes it 100% funnier

It all happens on 𝕏. 🤣 #sports

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

joat mon posted:

:mcnally:

I think it's a fight for control of the building between the two camps

You are 100% correct. Exactly the same stuff, just in a different wrapper

I didn't want to be right :(

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009

joat mon posted:



You are 100% correct. Exactly the same stuff, just in a different wrapper

I suspect there are less guns involved, even if they are comparably out of their religion's mainstream. The Taliban probably has worse calendar game, too.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
THIS FILM DEDICATED TO THE BRAVE TUNNELLERS OF CROWN HEIGHTS

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

A.o.D. posted:

This is really loving helpful but.. and I'm probably way off base here, should I be getting a Taliban vibe from this, be cause that's kind of what's happening in my head.

Judaism is not an evangelical religion, so most of the fundamentalist craziness is internally facing. Until things like you know, this whole situation.

AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Jan 10, 2024

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

OddObserver posted:

I suspect there are less guns involved, even if they are comparably out of their religion's mainstream. The Taliban probably has worse calendar game, too.

Pfft. The Taliban defeated the US military. These guys couldn't even handle the cops.

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

facialimpediment posted:

That's the most comprehensive link I've seen because it was usually just linked with the video of one of the hasidic Jews just popping up out of the drat sewer grate. One thing not in that link:

https://twitter.com/nkulw/status/1744723929145717055?t=2qX94si5IdOClm75vv1URg&s=19

It didn't penetrate my brain why those tunnels would be a big deal, until I thought "hmm gravity might override a hasidic belief that pillars and walls of a building are haram"

did anyone tell the idf about hamas digging these tunnels?

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

psydude posted:

Pfft. The Taliban defeated the US military. These guys couldn't even handle the cops.

Yeah but NYPD’s budget makes them a top-thirty fighting force, with double the resources of Ukraine in 2021.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Platystemon posted:

THIS FILM DEDICATED TO THE BRAVE TUNNELLERS OF CROWN HEIGHTS

Ugh we get it you're from New York.

Wingnut Ninja
Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless

joat mon posted:

Bais Medrash = study hall
meshichist = one of the camps, the other are the anti-meshivists - broadly, the split is over whether the dead cult leader is The Messiah or not
bochrim = young, unmarried male, esp. a yeshiva student
yeshiva = religious school
Lubavitcher = another word for Chabadism
Makom Kadosh = sacred place

What's the translation for "animals in Gaza"?

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Wingnut Ninja posted:

What's the translation for "animals in Gaza"?

that's bait

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

OddObserver posted:

I suspect there are less guns involved, even if they are comparably out of their religion's mainstream. The Taliban probably has worse calendar game, too.

Yeah, about that. This guy was bribing NYPD officers to get handgun permits for the Basij Committees for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice Shomrim, the Ultra-Orthodox "neighborhood patrols" that operate in heavily Hasidic neighborhoods in Brooklyn.

As someone who used to live in Wiliamsburg back when it was cool I can confirm that they're the Jewish Taliban. gently caress em.

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

pantslesswithwolves posted:

Yeah, about that. This guy was bribing NYPD officers to get handgun permits for the Basij Committees for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice Shomrim, the Ultra-Orthodox "neighborhood patrols" that operate in heavily Hasidic neighborhoods in Brooklyn.

As someone who used to live in Wiliamsburg back when it was cool I can confirm that they're the Jewish Taliban. gently caress em.

lol reformed buddy described them as if Ammon Bundy was a collectivist. Remember how they took a billion tax dollars for their schools & graduates often couldn’t read or write English, and their standardized test failure rate was 100%. Why yes this can cause employment issues.

Gift link: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/11/...&smid=url-share

Arc Light
Sep 26, 2013



pantslesswithwolves posted:

Yeah, about that. This guy was bribing NYPD officers to get handgun permits for the Basij Committees for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice Shomrim, the Ultra-Orthodox "neighborhood patrols" that operate in heavily Hasidic neighborhoods in Brooklyn.

As someone who used to live in Wiliamsburg back when it was cool I can confirm that they're the Jewish Taliban. gently caress em.

Yeah, the religious patrols are one of those things that non New Yorkers just don't believe because it's so wild.

Straight up patrol units dressed up to look like real city police cars and command post trucks, right down to using a modified version of the NYPD logo. And committing hate crimes that would make the real NYPD blush.

Unlocked NY Times link about who they are, what they do:
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/18/...&smid=url-share

For the unfamiliar, here's the real NYPD patch:



And a NYC Shomrim patrol patch:

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
the only thing worse than real cops are people who pretend to be cops and somehow get away with it

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Same as Scientology and a dozen Protestant cults in this great nation.

Arrath
Apr 14, 2011


Arc Light posted:

Unlocked NY Times link about who they are, what they do:
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/18/...&smid=url-share

For the unfamiliar, here's the real NYPD patch:



And a NYC Shomrim patrol patch:


How the hell is that kind of thing allowed to go on? Wouldn't have thought the most well funded police force would appreciate civilians nosing in on their game.

Bored As Fuck
Jan 1, 2006
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1744478140817109477?t=2BwlXkyrGdvSDZG5YJdIhA&s=19

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1744549078577357062?t=jwAknAU_lDgZE6CrUB4cCQ&s=19

Stravag
Jun 7, 2009

Arrath posted:

How the hell is that kind of thing allowed to go on? Wouldn't have thought the most well funded police force would appreciate civilians nosing in on their game.

Cops have a strong religious conservative contingent. They're probably stoked there's someone else hatecriming they can point to and say see not us while just happy the hate criming is going on

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Sure there’s not much of a difference in motives or methods but it’s still unusual for a gang to cede territory when they have the strength to claim it.

Soul Dentist
Mar 17, 2009
How does government funding make a police force more acceptable

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Arrath posted:

How the hell is that kind of thing allowed to go on? Wouldn't have thought the most well funded police force would appreciate civilians nosing in on their game.

Why do cops keep gently escorting white supremacists while violently cracking down on anyone protesting racism or inequality?

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.

Soul Dentist posted:

How does government funding make a police force more acceptable

It doesn't make it more acceptable so much as it makes it more likely that they'll come out on top.

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u
I definitely wouldn't rule out a lot of money getting paid to the right people to make the real cops just look away. A political donation here, some gold bars in a suit pocket there, it's a time honored classic, by gawd.

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Itchy_Grundle
Feb 22, 2003

Arrath posted:

How the hell is that kind of thing allowed to go on? Wouldn't have thought the most well funded police force would appreciate civilians nosing in on their game.

The thing is that at least in New York these communities usually vote as a block and wield a great deal of political power. It's not just in NYC, but in several towns in the outlying suburbs.

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