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Looten Plunder
Jul 11, 2006
Grimey Drawer
https://youtu.be/WoRPIEtbcBM?si=C2S8tyqn0nowGNcX

Whilst I'm excited for this, I swear this is about the third show I've seen advertised in the last 12 months as starring"the world's greatest detective" where I have no idea who the character actually is.

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101
Oct 15, 2012


Vault Dweller

HOLY gently caress posted:

Showrunner for Our Flag Means Death has posted on his instagram that the show has been cancelled :smith:

edit: adding image because instagram shows almost nothing if you don't have an account:



drat :(

Recently finished the first season and it's charming as hell

EricBauman
Nov 30, 2005

DOLF IS RECHTVAARDIG

Looten Plunder posted:

https://youtu.be/WoRPIEtbcBM?si=C2S8tyqn0nowGNcX

Whilst I'm excited for this, I swear this is about the third show I've seen advertised in the last 12 months as starring"the world's greatest detective" where I have no idea who the character actually is.

Bring back Perry Mason!

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
The Halt And Catch Fire opening credits are so good.

Sucks that their show about about a mental health facility, Rainy Day People, never got picked up to series.

Oasx
Oct 11, 2006

Freshly Squeezed

Alhazred posted:

I honestly hope HBO has a good support system for her. Don't click this spoiler if you haven't played the second game: Like, it's one thing that she's going to kill Joel, but now she's going to kill Joel played by a beloved actor. She will get hate both from fans of the show and from people who's thirsty for Pedro Pascal.

I’m looking forward to that scene so much.

Looten Plunder posted:

https://youtu.be/WoRPIEtbcBM?si=C2S8tyqn0nowGNcX

Whilst I'm excited for this, I swear this is about the third show I've seen advertised in the last 12 months as starring"the world's greatest detective" where I have no idea who the character actually is.

I don’t acknowledge any detective whose last name isn’t “Mars”.

GateOfD
Jan 31, 2023

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 7 days!)

just finished watching 'The Bear' S1

was a really good watch

GateOfD fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Jan 10, 2024

theblackw0lf
Apr 15, 2003

"...creating a vision of the sort of society you want to have in miniature"

Open Source Idiom posted:

The Halt And Catch Fire opening credits are so good.

Sucks that their show about about a mental health facility, Rainy Day People, never got picked up to series.

Oh drat I think they would have done great with that topic.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


So Amazon raises prices of Prime video with this dumb no-ad tier but then turns around and gets rid of hundreds of MGM and Prime Video employees.

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

bull3964 posted:

So Amazon raises prices of Prime video with this dumb no-ad tier but then turns around and gets rid of hundreds of MGM and Prime Video employees.

The situation must be really dire if they are forced to do such drastic measures to stay afloat. Maybe the government should subsidize them.

theblackw0lf
Apr 15, 2003

"...creating a vision of the sort of society you want to have in miniature"
https://x.com/TheCartoonBase/status/1745175467777241518?s=20

I liked the first season revival. It wasn't as good as the original series but there were some great episodes.

It's mainly other writers doing the show with Phil and Chris overseeing and writing a couple.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

bull3964 posted:

So Amazon raises prices of Prime video with this dumb no-ad tier but then turns around and gets rid of hundreds of MGM and Prime Video employees.

This same strategy worked great for the video game industry money ghouls last year.

Definitely seems sustainable long-term.


E: speaking of definitely sustainable long-term:

https://twitter.com/sagaftranews/status/1744789298543829066?t=XyoyyKqBG95pvGj5Ii2-iA&s=19

Didn't they just strike for 5 months to stop exactly this?

IRQ fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Jan 10, 2024

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

I’m only 3 episodes in but Fool Me Once on Netflix is really drat good! It’s a limited run series so I guess that means it’s a one and done?

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
Jesus this season of Fargo is good. Jon Hamm, Joe Keery and Juno Temple are all just KILLING it

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



MarcusSA posted:

I’m only 3 episodes in but Fool Me Once on Netflix is really drat good! It’s a limited run series so I guess that means it’s a one and done?

Yeah it’s marked as Ended rather than Continuing.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Wouldn't normally do something as cringe as post an IMDB slide collection, but this list of character actors is mostly really good. With the usual caveat that it's weighted for recency and US biases. So no Dorothy Atkinson or Tom Bell or Asher Keddie, the monsters.

There are a few glaring exceptions (Scoot McNairy, Damon Herriman, Edie Falco -- pretty much anyone from The Wire or Deadwood), and if you had to go with someone who emerged recently, I have no idea why you would you pick Picard Jr. when Emma Corrin is right loving there... but it gets a lot of the big picks right IMO.

Man, TV is such a good place for character actors. I could go on about them for literal hours. :eng99:

Edit: Speaking of excellent character actors, Disco Max just stuck a fork in Sarah Lancashire's show
Julia. Gotta save up that money, buying Paramount isn't gonna be cheap, don't wanna end up in debt and have to kill a bunch of shows, that would be bad

Open Source Idiom fucked around with this message at 03:02 on Jan 11, 2024

Looten Plunder
Jul 11, 2006
Grimey Drawer
What exactly is a character actor cause this just looks like a bunch of pictures of actors in different shows?

mystes
May 31, 2006

Looten Plunder posted:

What exactly is a character actor cause this just looks like a bunch of pictures of actors in different shows?
You know, actors who play characters

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
You joke, but that's not entirely wrong. Charcter actors tend to be known for their ability to play characters rather than bringing a specific matinee quality to their performance.

As such they're not A list (so Meryl Streep wouldn't qualify) they tend to specialise in playing a wide variety of different types -- particularly grotesques or eccentrics -- and often have specific "looks". A "characterful" actor is usually synonymous with uhhh "unattractive" -- though obviously still good looking enough to be on TV AKA probably still quite an attractive person. Hollywood just has fuckrd standards.

The exact opposite of The Rock.

DaveWoo
Aug 14, 2004

Fun Shoe
When I think "character actor", the first name that comes to mind is Stephen Root - he's in a lot of stuff, usually smaller or supporting parts, and he has a distinctive look and character type that he tends to play.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

I represent the Philippines
A character actor is basically any actor whose name most people won't recognize but whose face will make them go "oh that person from that thing"

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

99% of the actors you see on the screen in Justified are character actors

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Edit: nm I thought you said caricature actor and was confused

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler

mystes posted:

You know, actors who play characters

In shows on the USA Network where Characters Are Welcome

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
https://x.com/snarkywinemom/status/1745104823911932226?s=46&t=GxZoSKgPzb_-zyUnvLFKvg

Looten Plunder
Jul 11, 2006
Grimey Drawer

Open Source Idiom posted:

You joke, but that's not entirely wrong. Charcter actors tend to be known for their ability to play characters rather than bringing a specific matinee quality to their performance.

As such they're not A list (so Meryl Streep wouldn't qualify) they tend to specialise in playing a wide variety of different types -- particularly grotesques or eccentrics -- and often have specific "looks". A "characterful" actor is usually synonymous with uhhh "unattractive" -- though obviously still good looking enough to be on TV AKA probably still quite an attractive person. Hollywood just has fuckrd standards.

The exact opposite of The Rock.

Isn't this every TV actor though? The only household names on TV are movie A-Listers that make the jump.

MechaSeinfeld
Jan 2, 2008


Watched Bodies and Leave the World Behind and seriously questioning why I bother logging in to Netflix. Stink city.

Looten Plunder
Jul 11, 2006
Grimey Drawer

MechaSeinfeld posted:

Watched Bodies and Leave the World Behind and seriously questioning why I bother logging in to Netflix. Stink city.

Brothers Sun is good! (Well the 3 I've seen anyway).

Also, Leave the World Behind was heaps better than "Stink city"

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Netflix had more good shows in 2023 than in any other recent year I can think of. Can’t speak to the movies, though. I ended up rewatching Mr. Robot instead of Leave the World Behind after everyone poo poo on it

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Looten Plunder posted:

Isn't this every TV actor though? The only household names on TV are movie A-Listers that make the jump.

Well no, I'd probably say not. There are plenty of actors who've made a career basically playing people not too distant from themselves. Which isn't to denigrate their ability, acting is hard and what they're doing is just different. Less technically demanding, perhaps, but still hard work. But you wouldn't call -- picking two random names out of a hat -- Jared Padelecki or Tamlyn Tomita particularly characterful.

It's a recognised term, you can just google it.

MechaSeinfeld
Jan 2, 2008


Escobarbarian posted:

Netflix had more good shows in 2023 than in any other recent year I can think of. Can’t speak to the movies, though. I ended up rewatching Mr. Robot instead of Leave the World Behind after everyone poo poo on it

Oh I forgot about Pluto and Blue Eyed Samurai. That kicked rear end.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler
There are some actors who just pop out in even the smallest parts. And they can do more movies per year that way with just a week or two on set which makes them seem omnipresent.

It can be how they look like Vincent Schiavelli or something more vague that just makes them stand out. William Fichtner in The Dark Knight for instance has a few minutes on screen, his character does not even have a name but everyone remembers The Bank Manager while they may have forgotten Gary Oldman and Morgan Freeman were in it.

Looten Plunder
Jul 11, 2006
Grimey Drawer

I know it is, but you seem to know more about it than me, yet the gallery you posted makes me confused about the whole concept. I thought there were two main criteria. Plays a supporting role and is varied/disappears into the role

Yet you've got Kristen Ritter who plays the title character in one show and virtually the same person in Breaking Bad, Glen Howarton who has never played anyone but himself and is most of the time a lead, Danny Trejo who might not realise he's actually an actor and isn't just living his normal life, Megan Mullaley who has the most distinctive voice/character in Hollywood of the last 30 years, Jennifer Coolidge who despite appearing in dozens of things is literally Stifflers Mom to 90% of TV viewers, Brian Tyree Henry who despite being one of my favourite actors has a range of "can play Brian Tyree Henry".

I just don't see any of these people as character actors.

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

IRQ posted:

Didn't they just strike for 5 months to stop exactly this?

This applies to voice actors, whom SAG threw under the bus with this deal. First it was celebrities taking VA roles, now AI. VAs are utterly hosed.

Collateral
Feb 17, 2010
Some examples of really great character actors (from my British perspective) are Pete Postlethwaite, Jim Broadbent and Sean Harris.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Margo Martindale

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Data Graham posted:

Margo Martindale

Think of all the extra work she could have gotten if she hadn't wasted so much time adding oil to her pasta when she was cooking.... :negative:

DaveWoo
Aug 14, 2004

Fun Shoe

Looten Plunder posted:

I know it is, but you seem to know more about it than me, yet the gallery you posted makes me confused about the whole concept. I thought there were two main criteria. Plays a supporting role and is varied/disappears into the role

Yet you've got Kristen Ritter who plays the title character in one show and virtually the same person in Breaking Bad, Glen Howarton who has never played anyone but himself and is most of the time a lead, Danny Trejo who might not realise he's actually an actor and isn't just living his normal life, Megan Mullaley who has the most distinctive voice/character in Hollywood of the last 30 years, Jennifer Coolidge who despite appearing in dozens of things is literally Stifflers Mom to 90% of TV viewers, Brian Tyree Henry who despite being one of my favourite actors has a range of "can play Brian Tyree Henry".

I just don't see any of these people as character actors.

I agree with some of your criticisms, but I do think that Danny Trejo at least qualifies as a character actor - distinctive look, appears in a lot of things, usually plays the same type of role.

For Glenn Howerton, the closest thing to a character actor role I've seen him play is his part in the first season of Fargo, which oddly enough didn't get included in the slideshow.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

DaveWoo posted:

I agree with some of your criticisms, but I do think that Danny Trejo at least qualifies as a character actor - distinctive look, appears in a lot of things, usually plays the same type of role.

For Glenn Howerton, the closest thing to a character actor role I've seen him play is his part in the first season of Fargo, which oddly enough didn't get included in the slideshow.

I dunno he was pretty much "Dennis but a businessman" in Blackberry.

Collateral
Feb 17, 2010

Collateral posted:

Some examples of really great character actors (from my British perspective) are Pete Postlethwaite, Jim Broadbent and Sean Harris.

Also Toby Jones, David Thewlis, and a special nod to Gary Oldman who is a master of the craft. Steve Buscemi is another great character actor.

Although he wasn't really a supporting actor Peter Sellers was most notable for being a chameleon.

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feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
My favorite actor character is Rick Dalton. Jack Slater is pretty cool, too.

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