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It's not enough that you run your display very bright. You need to have static interface elements on screen at the same spot every day for several hours a day. If you're not doing that, then you're not likely to see any noticeable burn-in. If you are, then you could scrutinize the picture with some full-screen red, green, and blue colors displayed, along with 50% grey. If you can spot some minor defects doing that, then maybe it's time to run a manual compensation cycle and/or switch up the way you arrange your windows. Otherwise don't worry too much about it and continue going about your business. As for MLA, that's not really a panel type like OLED or LCD. It's just a layer of tiny lenses you can put into a panel to reduce the amount of light scattering that happens, improving the percentage of produced light that actually leaves the panel (you'd be surprised by how much is usually lost). LG is currently using MLA with some of its WOLED TVs (G series and up) and all of its WOLED monitors. It's being credited with a pretty big improvement to the panels' overall brightness, but there's been no real change to the color range or contrast or anything (colors are still pretty good but behind qd-oled, contrast is still perfect). With monitors, it seems LG is being much more conservative and isn't using MLA to improve brightness, but to improve panel longevity instead. The OLED compounds can be treated more gently while still achieving acceptable brightness thanks to MLA. Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Jan 9, 2024 |
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Trialing out stacked monitors. Due to desk/apartment constraints (speakers, really wanting a centered monitor), I can't really make them work side by side. Initially wished the top monitor could be set higher, so that I could move both of them up, but after fiddling with my chair height/recline, I don't mind their current height. The "seam" where the two monitors meet is basically center of my vision whether I'm sitting up or leaning back.
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has anyone side-graded from 34" to 32"? the new alienware 32" 4k oled looks to be an interesting upgrade from my current alienware UW
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Thirst Mutilator posted:Trialing out stacked monitors. Due to desk/apartment constraints (speakers, really wanting a centered monitor), I can't really make them work side by side. Initially wished the top monitor could be set higher, so that I could move both of them up, but after fiddling with my chair height/recline, I don't mind their current height. The "seam" where the two monitors meet is basically center of my vision whether I'm sitting up or leaning back. Hey split keyboard buddy. Where did you get your coiled trrs cable? I just bought the voyager and looking for nice cables.
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xgalaxy posted:Hey split keyboard buddy. Where did you get your coiled trrs cable? It came with my Iris. Seems like you can order it standalone from Keebio here though it isn't as fancy/braided/colorful as other options out there.
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notably it's not a TRRS cable, keebio are unusual in using USB-C cables for the interconnect
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repiv posted:notably it's not a TRRS cable, keebio are unusual in using USB-C cables for the interconnect As expensive as the voyager is they should have done the same 😂
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Thirst Mutilator posted:Trialing out stacked monitors. Due to desk/apartment constraints (speakers, really wanting a centered monitor), I can't really make them work side by side. Initially wished the top monitor could be set higher, so that I could move both of them up, but after fiddling with my chair height/recline, I don't mind their current height. The "seam" where the two monitors meet is basically center of my vision whether I'm sitting up or leaning back. Just chuck your speakers behind your monitors like I did!
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xgalaxy posted:As expensive as the voyager is they should have done the same 😂 yeah TRRS is the standard in DIY kits because its easy to solder but fully assembled boards can really do better
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I havent purchased computer hardware in ages, let alone bleeding edge desired stuff - how do I make sure I have a 32" 4K OLED monitor on my desk in the next 30-60 days?
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Honestly, I have no idea how to guarantee you get in on the first wave of shipments. Dell will begin selling the AW3225QF on the 11th on their web store, but I don't know at what time or how long inventory will last. The AW3423DW sold out pretty quickly, and people who got in late had to wait for months to receive their order, but there are a ton more models announced now, and I imagine availability will be much better. You can probably just take it easy and grab whatever has the best reviews in 2 - 3 months after the dust settles. edit: that's the rational argument. the irrational side of me says i want this monitor yesterday, so i'm absolutely going to be trying to get one Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 06:05 on Jan 10, 2024 |
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Moey posted:You having any of the issues that popped for on mine? (M32U-AE, I assume same panels). After the world's slowest troubleshooting back and forth, they will accept my monitor for "repair". No ability to cross ship a replacement. I'm not debating on if this is even worth it. I'm wondering if this is all tied to input switching and/or HDR. Probably going to disable HDR on every device connecting and see if that resolves anything. Edit. One quick Google and apparently RMA is the answer. Welp, downsizing to a 25" 1440p primary for a month or so. Moey fucked around with this message at 05:55 on Jan 10, 2024 |
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So fyi, I posted a few weeks back about that LG monitor that was 27", 4K, and had 1,560 zone miniLED. Seemed decent/promising? Well it's available on LG's website now, for $799 (currently $500 off already?), which seems like a pretty good deal. https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27gr95um-gaming-monitor DVG 0031, do you have any thoughts/opinions on it? Here's the TFT Central article announcing it, for reference: https://tftcentral.co.uk/news/lg-27gr95um-with-27-4k-160hz-1560-zone-mini-led-backlight-and-a-tw-polarizer
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A couple observations on the AW3225QF: it doesn't support DP alt mode through its USB C port, and it only does 15W of power delivery. And there's no audio port or any other kind of integrated audio interface, it seems. The HDMI eARC port is a neat trick, but if you use your monitor's audio interface then you'll have to come up with a different solution with this monitor. This is especially annoying if you want to hook up some consoles to it and don't want to use eARC. This actually throws a wrench into my current audio setup, which relies on my monitor's audio interface for my consoles. Bleh. (edit: I've decided to just use a usb to 3.5mm dongle from google for my ps5's audio, though figuring this out was annoying too because the ps5 doesn't actually support most modern usb audio devices. double bleh.)Canned Sunshine posted:So fyi, I posted a few weeks back about that LG monitor that was 27", 4K, and had 1,560 zone miniLED. Seemed decent/promising? I bet it's pretty good, and at $800, that's not a bad price either. There aren't any real reviews for it though, so it's a risky buy. Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 13:05 on Jan 10, 2024 |
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HUB Tim sums up all the new OLED monitors coming (that have been announced so far): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJf6iBDIyOc
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Canned Sunshine posted:So fyi, I posted a few weeks back about that LG monitor that was 27", 4K, and had 1,560 zone miniLED. Seemed decent/promising? I'm strongly considering this at that price. I'm currently using an Acer Predator XB271HU-bmiprz but it doesn't have Freesync support and I have recently switched to AMD so I have lost VRR. I have windows opened side-by-side 24/7 so I don't think OLED would be good for my use case.
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Are there any listings these 'gaming monitors' or nice ones like them that doesn't include the word 'gaming' in the name? I want to get my company to buy be one for work.
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Canned Sunshine posted:So fyi, I posted a few weeks back about that LG monitor that was 27", 4K, and had 1,560 zone miniLED. Seemed decent/promising? Incidentally the INNOCN 27M2V is now discounted to $599 on Amazon. This is probably the closest competitor to the LG 27GR95UM in terms of panel picture quality. It's a 27" 4K IPS with around 1000 backlight zones, I believe. It gets high marks from RTINGS in terms of its picture quality, but it's shoddily built with buggy firmware. And it has inconsistent quality control, with complaints about coil whine on some units when using HDR. I'd probably still go with the LG monitor here, even if you have to spend 33% more on it. High-end UltraGear monitors are quality products that are built well and have good, usable firmware. And I trust them when it comes to quality control much more than I do INNOCN. Not to mention RMA fulfillment. And with an LG panel with 35% more backlight zones and an A-TW polarizer (eliminates IPS glow), I bet it'll just be a better looking display all around. Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Jan 11, 2024 |
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Ohhh, finally we have 32" 4K OLED screens coming. Makes me wish I held off when I bought my 42 C2 in November '22. I love everything about it except the size. It's looking like the LG 32" WOLED screen coming in later would be a decent slot in if I'm happy with this screen, but would prefer a 32" footprint.
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Anti-Hero posted:Ohhh, finally we have 32" 4K OLED screens coming. Makes me wish I held off when I bought my 42 C2 in November '22. I love everything about it except the size. It's looking like the LG 32" WOLED screen coming in later would be a decent slot in if I'm happy with this screen, but would prefer a 32" footprint. But I might hold off buying anything until all the competition and reviews are in and the c2 is perfect to do that with.
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ethanol posted:
Exactly! It's a little big for FPS games but I've made it work.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Incidentally the INNOCN 27M2V is now discounted to $599 on Amazon. This is probably the closest competitor to the LG 27GR95UM in terms of panel picture quality. It's a 27" 4K IPS with around 1000 backlight zones, I believe. It gets high marks from RTINGS in terms of its picture quality, but it's shoddily built with buggy firmware. And it has inconsistent quality control, with complaints about coil whine on some units when using HDR. Thanks! Yeah, I think I have a little more confidence in LG also. I had been highly tempted to pick up the AW3225QF but when I saw this had become available in the US, seems to hit all the boxes I was looking for. I did like the size of my Odyssey Neo G7, so I'm going to decide whether to try and sell it or just hang on to it and eventually hand it off to my oldest kid when he'd be ready to have his own system in a year or so. Kibner posted:I'm strongly considering this at that price. I'm currently using an Acer Predator XB271HU-bmiprz but it doesn't have Freesync support and I have recently switched to AMD so I have lost VRR. I have windows opened side-by-side 24/7 so I don't think OLED would be good for my use case. I did end up ordering it, and went ahead and paid the $9 for expedited shipping to get it here Friday since I'm impatient and also might not be home much on Monday or Tuesday next week in case there are delivery shenanigans. I can report back once it's here and run any tests I can that you might be interested in!
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I've got a Gigabyte M27Q as part of my setup that I've been happy with for the last ~3 years until just now, when I stepped out of my home office for 10min and returned to see it dead and smell the distinct electrical fire/"magic smoke" scent in the air, coming from the vents on the back of its case. I can't get it to turn on at all, even into power-led-flashing standby mode. I also can't figure out how to get the case off in order to see if there's any obvious physical damage, but it does smell like it zapped itself. 1. Any troubleshooting steps I should be doing that I'm not thinking of, or am I right that it's just hosed? 2. What's the current recommended replacement for a 27" 1440p HRR gaming monitor? I'd been using the M27Q's KVM functionality as the heart of my setup but honestly wouldn't mind swapping the K/M part of that out for a dedicated USB switcher either, so would take recs for that too if the current monitor rec doesn't do that.
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Scythe posted:I've got a Gigabyte M27Q as part of my setup that I've been happy with for the last ~3 years until just now, when I stepped out of my home office for 10min and returned to see it dead and smell the distinct electrical fire/"magic smoke" scent in the air, coming from the vents on the back of its case. I can't get it to turn on at all, even into power-led-flashing standby mode. I also can't figure out how to get the case off in order to see if there's any obvious physical damage, but it does smell like it zapped itself. When did you buy it? Check the warranty, it's probably 3 years
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It sure sounds like it's just hosed. Most likely it could be fixed by swapping out the control board, but getting replacements isn't easy, nor is the repair process something regular users should do. Basic LCD tech hasn't really advanced much since the M27Q's release, at least not in the M27Q's midrange price bracket. The one exception might be the AOC Q27G3XMN, which has a mini led backlight and an acceptably fast VA panel, meaning it's pretty impressive with HDR content and still good for gaming too, despite having a sub-$300 price. HDR and mini-led backlights can be a little fiddly, and not a lot of content supports HDR still. But if you're interested in that then it could be a decent replacement, though it doesn't have a KVM switch or any USB functionality at all. KVM functionality isn't particularly common, so if you want that then maybe you should just grab another M27Q: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08JWCHR5N
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The new Dell QD-OLEDs are available in the US and Canada: AW2725DF: https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/cty/apd/210-BLJD AW3225QF: https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/cty/apd/210-BLMQ US store links, but they're on the dell canada store too.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:The new Dell QD-OLEDs are available in the US and Canada: Now that the embargoes are lifted, I can post that the AW3225QF is the best monitor I've ever used in my life. Still working on a full review but jesus christ this thing looks good, and it doesn't use a power brick. I would buy one just for day-to-day work if I could swing $1,200, it's bright enough to use for spreadsheets/word docs and doesn't rapidly fluctuate in brightness depending on what's onscreen like other OLED monitors I've tried in the past. change my name fucked around with this message at 15:02 on Jan 11, 2024 |
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Any noticeable issues with the factory calibration or HDR performance? Have you noticed any VRR flicker? edit: Also there seems to be a fan in it. is it audible? Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 15:11 on Jan 11, 2024 |
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Any noticeable issues with the factory calibration or HDR performance? Have you noticed any VRR flicker? Factory calibration is legit right out of the box and HDR performance is great but pretty much no PC game supports Dolby Vision right now so you'll just see the logo in the corner on your desktop appear and then it turns off in games. Pretty lame but I guess it's nice future-proofing. As for the fan, I never noticed so it must be super quiet. I will say that oddly I can feel the heat kicking off the panel if I get closer than about 20 inches to it, but that's not a big issue. Honestly, my biggest problems have been typical Windows things so far. Signal dropping down to 120Hz and only going back to 240Hz when I switched DP ports on my graphics card, for instance. Edit: the curve is mild enough as to be unnoticeable change my name fucked around with this message at 15:42 on Jan 11, 2024 |
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I hope the flat panels are just as good, because I definitely don't want a curve. Still not sure if I want to be an early adopter, but I'm very tempted.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:The new Dell QD-OLEDs are available in the US and Canada: I just ordered the 32", gonna return the AW3821DW I bought earlier.
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K8.0 posted:I hope the flat panels are just as good, because I definitely don't want a curve. Still not sure if I want to be an early adopter, but I'm very tempted.
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I've had an 1800R ultrawide for years. I think curves are poo poo no matter the display size, and if it had not been for a need to try to make lovely VA displays look less bad at larger sizes, the trend never would have started. The idea that it's somehow more optimized for your eye is laughable. There's nothing you look at that is curved like a curved monitor, including the projection in games.
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Was there some EU launch dates posted for the new OLEDs? Wanna buy monitor
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HalloKitty posted:When did you buy it? Check the warranty, it's probably 3 years You know, I would've assumed I was past the date but the warranty is still active until this April. Submitted a service request. Thanks! Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:It sure sounds like it's just hosed. Most likely it could be fixed by swapping out the control board, but getting replacements isn't easy, nor is the repair process something regular users should do. Thanks. I don't care about HDR on this monitor, so I guess there's no exciting new developments here. I briefly started to look into M27Q alternatives but getting a standalone USB switcher + a USB-C to DP/HDMI adapter + etc. is kind of a hassle with maybe no real upside. Feels a bit silly to order a replacement M27Q while I wait for the warranty fulfillment (since I don't want to wait the whole month or whatever), but I guess that might be the move.
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Scythe posted:You know, I would've assumed I was past the date but the warranty is still active until this April. Submitted a service request. Thanks! Nice win! Always check, I guess.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:The new Dell QD-OLEDs are available in the US and Canada: I'm going to probably stick with the LG given my fears about burn in, but part of me just wants to order the 32" now and not have any regrets later... I have a stash of too many monitors now though as it is that I don't know what to do with.
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Thirst Mutilator posted:Trialing out stacked monitors. Due to desk/apartment constraints (speakers, really wanting a centered monitor), I can't really make them work side by side. Initially wished the top monitor could be set higher, so that I could move both of them up, but after fiddling with my chair height/recline, I don't mind their current height. The "seam" where the two monitors meet is basically center of my vision whether I'm sitting up or leaning back. I am jealous of that window setup, it looks perfect for being able to look at a 180 view while working
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tildes posted:I am jealous of that window setup, it looks perfect for being able to look at a 180 view while working It's a saving grace of being somewhat forced to fit a desk here, due to the room layout. Two downsides are it being west facing (meaning I have to adjust the blinds to prevent the sun being directly in my eyes as the day goes on) and the windows only overlooking a one way street with little people watching, but I'll take any view and natural light over a wall and having to figure out lighting in my room. More topically, all these OLED panels look so nice, and have me rethinking the M27U I bought at $500, but I could barely justify that price and I'm still a little on the fence of its worth - I doubt I'd be able to justify the price of an OLED for a mixed coding/gaming use. Hoping that in 3 years a 4K OLED comes down to something like what I paid for this M27U.
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Canned Sunshine posted:I'm going to probably stick with the LG given my fears about burn in, but part of me just wants to order the 32" now and not have any regrets later... Dells Warranty was always pretty dope in the past, though that might have changed. I also assume you can extend the standard 3 year to 5, if you are really concerned quote:Warranty
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