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All civilizations are in a contest for resources in the universe despite there being no faster than light travel and the primary way they fight over these resources is by launching doomsday weapons that destroy the very fabric of reality universe wide at the first sign of any other intelligent life.
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:are the guns just mounted on the cars or do the cars shoot the guns with their tires Cars 2 has a lot of guns. Speaking of which, the first time I saw Cars 2 i didn't care for it, but after a dozen or so viewings with my kids it's grown on me.
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coathat posted:All civilizations are in a contest for resources in the universe despite there being no faster than light travel and the primary way they fight over these resources is by launching doomsday weapons that destroy the very fabric of reality universe wide at the first sign of any other intelligent life. yeah it's a really overrated book series
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I'll stick to the Culture, thanks I'm finally considering Phlebas now, am a little ways in, and the main character has already been in mortal peril three times (the first of which involved being sentenced to death via being drowned in sewage generated by a party being held by the people who sentenced him). This book has no chill whatsoever.
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Its a thought experiment where the only answer is: Ok let's just give up now And they're going to make this a big prime time show
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loquacius posted:I'll stick to the Culture, thanks Horza ftw
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I think what leaves a bad taste in my mouth about the 3BP trilogy is there's this pervasive cynicism throughout that the most violent and cutthroat utilitarianism is inevitably the right solution. Success can only come on top of a pile of corpses, and anything else is naivete. Whether or not it's intentional, it's basically the logical conclusion to the Musk-esque Great Man techbro view of humanity's future
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Regarde Aduck posted:Its a thought experiment where the only answer is: Ok let's just give up now I will take the show's advice and just give up on thinking about watching it
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i liked when the one guy had the alien army group up to make a big computer with soldiers acting as transistors
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my bony fealty posted:Horza ftw Horza is a chud and a quisling but is also a covert-ops spy dude so he's cool to read about at least This book really managed to answer the question of "why would any rational person side WITH the empire of dinosaur monsters who see humanoids as animals without souls AGAINST the post-scarcity socialist utopia" in a realistic way -- Horza thinks Culture humans are basically pets for robots who could theoretically decide that the humans are unnecessary for their civilization to function at any time, and that at least the Idirans are biological lifeforms, and this is not, strictly speaking, an incorrect thing for him to think! It's a pretty fresh take on the Culture as a concept which makes sense since it was literally the first book Banks published.
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PsychoInternetHawk posted:That's all the more reason not to fight everything you come across! Like it's clear the end goal was just to have a human vs aliens scenario, invent some bullshit sci-fi nonsense instead of trying to make it sound smart and failing
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dark forest theory is dumb because there is no way to hide from an interstellar civilization under the known laws of physics. aliens on the other side of our galaxy could easily detect the artificial chemicals on our atmosphere and know there is a civilization here. if you think the universe is full of hostile aliens the only real option is to grow your civilization as fast a possible to match any potential adversaries.
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PsychoInternetHawk posted:I think what leaves a bad taste in my mouth about the 3BP trilogy is there's this pervasive cynicism throughout that the most violent and cutthroat utilitarianism is inevitably the right solution. Success can only come on top of a pile of corpses, and anything else is naivete. Whether or not it's intentional, it's basically the logical conclusion to the Musk-esque Great Man techbro view of humanity's future Yeah, its just pretty depressing in general, and not even in an interesting way like Blindsight or other Peter Watts novels. Watts writes from the perspective of "this is what you wind up with after decades of doing the same stupid poo poo over and over" or "humanity is not special in the grand scheme of things", while Liu Cixin assumes that this close-minded and genocidal race for resources is just inevitable and that the best you can do is cordial isolationism. Anyway taking this opportunity to shill Graydon Saunders' Commonweal series, which features aninteresting depiction of a socialist society in a Dying Earth kind of setting, and Adrian Tchaikovsky's Children of Time series, which depicts humanity making contact with uplifted terrestrial animals on other planets that they could not contact for millennia due to a civil war that devastated the solar system. I like them since they're much more optimistic about different species and people being able to find commonality and solidarity with each other.
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PsychoInternetHawk posted:I was referring more to the bit where a character says something like "the universe is akin to a dark forest, where you must kill anything that makes itself known because it could kill you first." That's not how any forest or any ecosystem at all works! Any animal that spent time and resources getting into fights with everything it encountered would render itself extinct extremely quickly! loving garbage-rear end analogy I hate it The analogy is usually hunters in a forest rather than just some organism in a forest. Hunters also don't shoot at each other, so IDK why soldier isn't used instead.
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skooma512 posted:Hunters also don't shoot at each other, so IDK why soldier isn't used instead. tell that to the guy Dick Cheney shot in the face
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Whirling posted:Yeah, its just pretty depressing in general, and not even in an interesting way like Blindsight or other Peter Watts novels. Watts writes from the perspective of "this is what you wind up with after decades of doing the same stupid poo poo over and over" or "humanity is not special in the grand scheme of things", while Liu Cixin assumes that this close-minded and genocidal race for resources is just inevitable and that the best you can do is cordial isolationism. jumping spiders are very cute. love those little guys
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coathat posted:All civilizations are in a contest for resources in the universe despite there being no faster than light travel and the primary way they fight over these resources is by launching doomsday weapons that destroy the very fabric of reality universe wide at the first sign of any other intelligent life. Yeah I mean, if you can already make a proton as big as a death star, build all kinds of structures on it, and shrink it back down, and halt an entire planet's particle physics research with these things... why do you need to conquer anyone and for what resource? They also have mastered FTL communication to talk to sleeper agents on Earth. Make a sophon space telescope, find a system that isn't as batshit as Trisolaris, and go there, no fighting required. They were in Alpha Centauri anyway so idk why it took them that long to figure out Earth was there and what was on it. They can already manipulate matter down to the atomic level and then somehow make a proton into a huge structure, they have FTL comms, they as a species can dehydrate themselves and go into stasis at will, why are you guys even still on Trisolaris?
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also they could just come here and terraform mars or some poo poo, we wouldn’t care
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Mr Hootington posted:It is fun to apply adult logic to kid movies Ftfy
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ScootsMcSkirt posted:jumping spiders are very cute. love those little guys I didn't love the book but big cuddly space spiders are a noble literary subject
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Fried Watermelon posted:Obama liked the book Obama saying he liked something isn’t proof that he actually liked it.
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Culture series is the only actually 100% good sci fi, any medium
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I randomly looked up Hugo award winners because of this thread and read nettle & bone. it was fun slop for relaxing.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Culture series is the only actually 100% good sci fi, any medium correct. that and Dune.
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God Hole posted:all those great battle-of-wits scenes between Arya and Tywin were completely invented for the show too, which lured a lot of GoT readers into a false sense of security that the showrunners would have been able to smoothly transition once they'd run out of book. owned. extremely funny to think that aryas endgame is just her getting godtier assassin superpowers handed to her with no explanation or drawbacks when her whole thing up until that point was that she was good at needling people when she knew they couldnt afford to just kill her and loving off the minute that protection was gone they basically started out with a metaphorically strong female character and stripped away all of her interesting characterization to turn her into a literally strong female character instead and probably thought they were being feminist for doing so
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Fried Watermelon posted:3BP was very anti cultural revolution and the later books lamented the feminization of "real men" this doesnt make any sense everyone knows the cultural revolution is bad and everyone knows that feminism is good so how can a person be both anti cultural revolution and anti feminism???
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PriorMarcus posted:Much like the Watchmen tv show I'm convinced that most of the popularity of 3BP comes not from the actual contents of the books but because they made a lot of people aware of a real world crime they hadn't previously been exposed too. in the west at least the popularity of three body problem is inextricably tied to it coincidentally being the climax of that ridiculous sad puppy drama take that away and i cant imagine most people in the english speaking world would have even heard of it let alone that thered be a netflix series about it
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Dream waifu has hilarious tough. There are a lot fun and intetsting scenarios like that in the series. But he is so quick to rush past all of them.
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I put down 3BP after the main character started getting creepy about dead ladies he never met.
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Cookie Cutter posted:I concur. My brother wouldn't stop bothering me to read them like it was the greatest thing ever, I finally read it just to shut him up and was like ehhhh.. I don't mind a bit of hard sci fi sometimes but it would be nice if this book had any, you know, characters. Reminds me of Asimov where the stories are mostly remembered for interesting ideas and the characters tend to be cardboard cut outs at best.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Reminds me of Asimov where the stories are mostly remembered for interesting ideas and the characters tend to be cardboard cut outs at best. that's most sci-fi
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Knight posted:They had to explicitly say they were trapped in a cave from the 30s to the 60s lol The 1830s to the 1960s specifically, they hosed up while serving Napoleon and possibly got him killed in Russia
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Minions were crew on the slave ships
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Some Guy TT posted:This should make them part of the solution, especially if LGBTQ+ inclusive TV shows are the ones suffering disproportionally from cancellations. Out of 105 TV shows canceled in 2023, more than half included LGBTQ+ representation. If GLAAD’s 2023 report’s data about 54 LGBTQ+ inclusive TV shows being canceled were to be considered despite it including only cancellations up to May 2023, it would still show that of all TV shows canceled, 51 percent had LGBTQ+ characters, disproportionately affecting them. maybe they should make them good shows instead of bad shows
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if airplanes are also living beings and world war 2 happened in the cars movies does that imply there is a living enola gay are there alive b-52s that carpetbombed cambodia? who is kissinger in the universe
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