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Nah I understand that most people don't want to read about bloodgurgling psychos and it wouldn't make for a very interesting book anyway. That's why I said related, since I'd imagine most stories would be told through a more relatable point of view.
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Archaon got 2 books, iirc, that deal with his history and quest before he was crowned by Be'lakor.
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The Archaon books are maybe not good exactly but they 100% deliver on high intensity chaos poo poo and sword&sorcery violence. Here’s Archaon murdering his way through giant crabs in the flooded dungeons of a black ark. Here’s Archaon’s lost decade as a pirate king. Here’s Archaon fighting his own plague-clone, made by a rebellious Nurgle subordinate. Here’s Archaon fighting a Cathayan daemon-dragon. Here’s Archaon wandering WHFB-Antarctica and leading the beastmen hordes. It’s entirely made of metal album covers and the tone throughout is of shrieking guitars. It also has a bunch of bits where he dies from a dagger in the eye or an ogre’s club, so the mysterious narrator just goes “nope, that’s not how it’s supposed to go, let’s rewind and tweak fate a little”. Would second Riders of the Dead though. A lot more low-key but very good. Two empire soldiers get separated from their regiment, one sets up with a band of Kislev lancers, the other is taken prisoner by marauders.
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This is what I think I wantGhastlyBizness posted:It’s entirely made of metal album covers and the tone throughout is of shrieking guitars. But this is what I will probably appreciate more GhastlyBizness posted:Would second Riders of the Dead though. A lot more low-key but very good. Two empire soldiers get separated from their regiment, one sets up with a band of Kislev lancers, the other is taken prisoner by marauders.
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Lostconfused posted:Alright nerds, what's the best chaos related novel black library's got? I remember liking Palace of the Plague Lord, though it’s been years and I should reread it. A norscan goes on a quest into the wastes and lots of weird chaos stuff happens.
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Cross-quoting from AoS threadTalas posted:Rumors going around Discord, seems like most of the legend factions in TOW are getting some kind of update for AoS. Apparently this guy has been right before so here’s hoping
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It's good that chorfs make a comeback, on the other hand is bad because they're residual (again) in ToW.
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It's a pretty safe bet IMO. As demonstrated as recently as Legions Imperialis, GW is excruciatingly reluctant to release rules for things they don't produce models for. (There are big holes in the army lists where not yet available figures should be.) A third party can scoop them, and not even a C&D is a guaranteed fix in that case. Chaos Dwarfs getting rules was a big surprise, but enough of a signal that I picked up some AoS hobgoblins and Krule Boyz. There's also apparently four new vanguard boxes for 2024 and AoS4, one is Stormcasts but the other three are unknown. It'd be amazing if Chorfs v Krule Boyz is the 4th starter, but I doubt that's in Hashut's plan.
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Angry Lobster posted:It's good that chorfs make a comeback, on the other hand is bad because they're residual (again) in ToW. I think the idea is the legends/AoS crossovers will be either existing stuff or obvious proxies, like the lizard, beastmen, or skaven ranges. As opposed trying to make wood elves or dwarfs out of AoS E: I guess it depends on what you want if it’s good or bad. I’m happy for it to end up like LotR with just fixes and the occasional new treat. I can’t handle two full treadmill GW systems. I just want to make one or two one-and-done armies that can stay the same for a while. Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Jan 14, 2024 |
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I'd just be happy to see chorfs get plastic kits regardless of system.  They belong here though. 
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I think the idea is the legends/AoS crossovers will be either existing stuff or obvious proxies, like the lizard, beastmen, or skaven ranges. As opposed trying to make wood elves or dwarfs out of AoS I like big hats and I cannot lie.
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I just hope they come out better than that Warcry goofball. Or another bait and switch like the Horns of Hashut. WTF guys.
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Thinking about how much Kislev stuff they dropped early on, I wonder if they changed when this supposed to be taking place late in development. Praag is still a couple decades away, iirc, so there's lots of setup but I can't imagine we'll be spending too much time before what should be a big event in universe like this. If I remember right, Praag, the invasion of Uluthan, and Settra riding up north should all be happening around the same time. That's a lot of moving pieces.
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Total War Warhammer 3 came out 2 years ago and the central story plot there focused on Kislev, so maybe it was supposed to line up with that at least in terms of marketing.
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Chorfs with modern sculpts is going to be really cool. I thought they'd do Umbraeneth (dark Aelfs) this edition for AoS but I guess not.
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I just wish they would rerelease the 5e plastic and metal saurus models, the ones that look like bipedal monitor lizards. I've hated every version of the saurus they released afterward 
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The manager of my local hobby store just told me that the GW said to him that they are going to reprint the big ToW boxes asap, they have been too conservative because they did not expect the game to be such a smash hit even before release day. Take this with a huge grain of salt, but come on GW, you have been hyping and blue balling us for years.
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Silhouette posted:I just wish they would rerelease the 5e plastic and metal saurus models, the ones that look like bipedal monitor lizards. I've hated every version of the saurus they released afterward I love the ones from last year, they look so brutal and violent. Like if Kaiju were wrestlers.
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Robviously posted:If I remember right, Praag, the invasion of Uluthan, and Settra riding up north should all be happening around the same time. That's a lot of moving pieces. Most people are mentioning 2276, about 25 years before the Great War Against Chaos. GW are free to move things about, though. According to a Warhammer wiki on Fandom, 2271 is when the Norscan attack on Khemri happened, Settra launched his counter-attack on Norsca a decade later and was done by 2286.
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GW is releasing a previously unreleased Bretonnia model from 2008 https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/01/15/old-world-almanack-this-new-bretonnian-lord-was-sculpted-in-2008/  Also more reveals are coming this week with a first look for the next released faction coming to people who go to the launch event at warhammer world Lucinice fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Jan 15, 2024 |
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Angry Lobster posted:The manager of my local hobby store just told me that the GW said to him that they are going to reprint the big ToW boxes asap, they have been too conservative because they did not expect the game to be such a smash hit even before release day. Take this with a huge grain of salt, but come on GW, you have been hyping and blue balling us for years. The site I buy from in Germany is still accepting preorders with a big bold warning on every listing that GW is producing more boxes, but the fulfillment date they were given is 3/30. (which is very likely just a placeholder for the end of the quarter, so it could be even longer) Now, it could be the the big boxes aren't part of that second wave when it materializes, and this is all just for the individual boxes; but I feel like if you're going to slap a reprint date on something, even if it's placeholder, you wouldn't put it on items you know are not coming back. It's moments like these where I wish we got more insider information from things happening at GW. I totally understand from a business perspective, having a smaller print run from a new ("new") product line like this, even with all the hype surrounding it; and pretty much everything nowadays sells out instantly. But you know there's a faction inside GW that came in the next day with the smuggest attitude, talking about how this was always a sure-fire bet.
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I gave in. I'm a Tzeentch guy now. Picked up the Eternus box from last year, a vanguard box, and a few other odds and ends. Right now I'm sitting at: Chaos lord on horse/demonic mount Chaos lord on foot Chaos sorcerer on foot Chaos sorcerer on horse (old metal model) 20 chaos warriors 10 chaos knights 5 chosen 3 dragon ogres 2 chaos spawn 1 chariot I also have 3 ogroid something-or-others from AoS. They came in the Eternus box and while I could run them as allied minotaurs, I don't intend to get into beastmen. I'll be giving them to a buddy instead. My intent with this army is to have about 2500-ish points so that I can play 2k with a few options. I still need 10 more warriors and a demon prince. I'm planning on 10 more chosen for a total of 15 though they can wait a while. I'd also like a big rare choice like a hellcannon and/or shaggoth. I'm definitely going to get both when they rerelease. I've already built those dragon ogres and that kit is great. I think it's from back in 8th edition. They're in more parts than you'd expect, but they come with every weapon option. Even came with the 50x75mm bases I need plus some ovals I don't. I moved on to the chaos warriors last night and whoever recommended the current kit was right. They go together very well and I'm excited to start painting these. I'm planning a blue metallic scheme and I got three paints from Turbo Dork to try. My local store happens to carry them. Thinking of combining that with dark brass trim and burgundy/maroon capes for something at least a little pink in the scheme. Hoping to do a test model in the next couple weeks after I get things built and my life calms down a bit. Now, for my demon prince I'm thinking about trying out color shift paints on its armor. Turbo Dork makes a variety of them and there's a blue/pink one I want to try called Blue Raspberry. I thought about doing the whole army that way, but it seemed a bit too much. I may single out sorcerers, lords, etc. with that alternate scheme, but we'll see. I think I'd prefer it as a one-off or maybe I just save it for demons.
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Safety Factor posted:I gave in. I'm a Tzeentch guy now.
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Desfore posted:It's moments like these where I wish we got more insider information from things happening at GW. I totally understand from a business perspective, having a smaller print run from a new ("new") product line like this, even with all the hype surrounding it; and pretty much everything nowadays sells out instantly. But you know there's a faction inside GW that came in the next day with the smuggest attitude, talking about how this was always a sure-fire bet. For what it's worth, from what has been said by former insiders in interviews I think it is entirely likely that institutional memory of WFB's unpopularity in the sales side of GW exists, due to its relative under-performance compared to 40k. And I think that probably lead to a lack of confidence/push back in the forecasting. I suspect there are some managers who simply didn't make the mental adjustment that smaller games are presently a perfectly acceptable and successful thing, and the old comparison isn't necessarily relevant because ToW isn't intended to be the tent pole WFB was. Then again, GW were consistently unable to deliver sufficient volumes of stock all last year, and we saw one of the most incompetent large releases in the company's history with Legions Imperialis, so who knows.
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Lucinice posted:GW is releasing a previously unreleased Bretonnia model from 2008 Am I alone in thinking the faces on these models are...bad? At least in comparison to the modern faces that are being put out. Also I'm not at all happy that they're releasing new models in metal and resin. Like apparently the Elisse Duchaard model is resin, and that's a brand new kit.
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The paint job might be partially responsible here, but the eyes on the lord are uh a bit too narrow if you ask me. It could also be a bad photo angle.
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Verisimilidude posted:Am I alone in thinking the faces on these models are...bad? At least in comparison to the modern faces that are being put out. Forgeworld Resin is higher quality than the old Finecast.
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Lucinice posted:GW is releasing a previously unreleased Bretonnia model from 2008 MonsterEnvy posted:I think the Ogroids could make decent Chaos Ogres.
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Verisimilidude posted:Am I alone in thinking the faces on these models are...bad? At least in comparison to the modern faces that are being put out. I'm going to take a guest that the model was originally intended to be released in metal and that's why they're doing it
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MonsterEnvy posted:Forgeworld Resin is higher quality than the old Finecast. I understand that completely, but Forgeworld resin is still a far less ideal material than standard GW plastic. Resin needs to be washed, flash needs to be clipped and sanded, parts need to be reshaped to fit properly in many cases. It worries me because I feel like TOW is going to get the specialist games treatment: a tertiary product line that receives lukewarm support until it's eventually shelved. Putting out launch models in resin and metal screams to me "we don't have faith in this venture".
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Under 15 posted:Get some bow strings on that bad boy! easiest way to glow up bow units Oh snap, that's a great idea, what do you use, fishing line?
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People out here acting like being a specialist product is a death sentence while Blood Bowl and Necromunda have been absolutely killing it for over half a decade at this point
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AnEdgelord posted:People out here acting like being a specialist product is a death sentence while Blood Bowl and Necromunda have been absolutely killing it for over half a decade at this point Or 30k which has been running since 2012.
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AnEdgelord posted:People out here acting like being a specialist product is a death sentence while Blood Bowl and Necromunda have been absolutely killing it for over half a decade at this point You pointed out two of the three specialist properties that still receive support, while neglecting the eight+ properties that are gone, some of which despite selling well and having large fan bases. I'm not trying to get into an argument, I'm just saying the faith I have in this system being supported long-term isn't exactly where I wanted it to be. Perhaps I'll be wrong, but I'm less and less eager to buy into the system fresh. This seems like a great boon for people who already have armies and have stuck with WHFB for all these years, and maybe the sales will be so great that GW supports it well in a few years. Either way, releasing new kits in resin and metal is not great.
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Doesn't Warcry, Underworlds and Killteam all count as specialist games too? And I'm not sure the specialist games of 15+ years ago really should count since they were almost all made under a two years of support then make way for the next game model that was created as a lifeline after GorkaMorka nearly bankrupted the company. I mean I definitely get the hesitancy, it's why I didn't pick anything up yet. I'm actually thinking of just getting the rules and picking up four of those DnD figure cases Ollie's is selling for $3 and playing with those. Macdeo Lurjtux fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Jan 15, 2024 |
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I really don't get worrying that ToW will be under-suppoted. WHFB still had a community after GW trying to kill it for a decade, it's going to do just fine.
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Verisimilidude posted:You pointed out two of the three specialist properties that still receive support, while neglecting the eight+ properties that are gone, some of which despite selling well and having large fan bases. I am eternally sad I came to be a warhammer fan too late to get the expansions to blackstone fortress. Anyway the closest thing in comparison to TOW is HH which is going strong even though it was resin only for like 10 years.
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Lucinice posted:I am eternally sad I came to be a warhammer fan too late to get the expansions to blackstone fortress. Same! And I can only hope HH also receives better support in the coming days. My FLGS bought in hard on that game and it hasn't seen a meaningful release since. A new army is supposed to be releasing later this winter at the very least, but then GW released LI and so now people are confused about whether they should buy in on LI or stick with HH.
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Verisimilidude posted:Same! And I can only hope HH also receives better support in the coming days. My FLGS bought in hard on that game and it hasn't seen a meaningful release since. A new army is supposed to be releasing later this winter at the very least, but then GW released LI and so now people are confused about whether they should buy in on LI or stick with HH. It gets regular new releases. Sometimes a game just doesn’t get big in an area. I think most of the resin and metal models were sculpted as such, long ago
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