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Master Stur posted:My hot take is Herbert is overrated like the rest of the chargers. If he was top 5 they'd be in the playoffs Staley was a horrible coach, and everyone died this year
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Stroud and Love had nearly identical statlines Safe to say they are both good.
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Stroud played against an actual defense though. Love got to carve up Mr. 28-3 with the most predictable offensive scheme imaginable. Don't get me wrong, a Texans Packers Superbowl this year would own and be really exciting, but CJ Stroud is looking like a top 5 if not top 4 qb in his freaking rookie year
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Stroud looks like Brees or Warren Moon or something it's absurd how good he is already. His anticipation and ability to take what the defense gives him is far beyond his years. He's got obvious arm talent too. His only knock is his deep ball isn't quite perfect yet which is a weak knock. Jordan Love looks like Stafford which I think is equally exciting. He's got such a cannon on shorter routes and can fit the ball in exactly like Stafford or Herbert. His range of motion on throwing is superb too. He can get the ball around defenders in his face or contort his body and get off a good throw while getting hit. This is also intriguing because he was total rear end in his last year at college. He's completely grown up from the guy that wings it into 3 defenders. Now he wings it into 3 defenders, but he knows he can make the pass.
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I meant literally they had nearly the exact same statline https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1746706119945511312 Both of em kick rear end
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Henchman of Santa posted:New mandate: Draft the lovely tools guy from the Mountain West The next guy up that could go nuclear in the NFL is Avery Johnson. He’s getting coached up by the same coach who developed Love in college, Matt Wells.
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biceps crimes posted:Stroud played against an actual defense though. Love got to carve up Mr. 28-3 with the most predictable offensive scheme imaginable. Don't get me wrong, a Texans Packers Superbowl this year would own and be really exciting, but CJ Stroud is looking like a top 5 if not top 4 qb in his freaking rookie year No he didn’t. The browns D is horrifically bad if they can’t get pressure. They got carved up by the Colts of all teams
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CharlestheHammer posted:No he didn’t. The browns D is horrifically bad if they can’t get pressure. they're literally the best defense in the NFL, at one point they were outpacing the 2000 Ravens defense
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Relentlessboredomm posted:they're literally the best defense in the NFL, at one point they were outpacing the 2000 Ravens defense And the boys were sixth. How did that work out for them
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CharlestheHammer posted:And the boys were sixth. How did that work out for them Lmao what’s your point here? The browns defense is good, however much you want to hand wave it away.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Lmao what’s your point here? The browns defense is good, however much you want to hand wave it away. So you agree that the cowboys defense is also good then making the original comparison pointless
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Fun fact: The Browns were the worst defense in the NFL on the road.
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I mean any defense will look bad if they can't get pressure
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CharlestheHammer posted:So you agree that the cowboys defense is also good then making the original comparison pointless The original point was the browns defense is significantly better than the cowboys which is still true.
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CharlestheHammer posted:So you agree that the cowboys defense is also good then making the original comparison pointless Just because the cowboys defense was good doesn’t mean that the cowboys defense was anywhere close to as good as the historically excellent Browns D. The browns defense was significantly better than the cowboys defense this season. Ordinal ranking does not inherently imply equivalent linear spacing. You buffoon!!!
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Browns and cowboys both had defenses that played badly and got exploited by good quarterback play. Why let comparison be the thief of enjoying two players playing good beating orgs we want to see lose.
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BlindSite posted:Browns and cowboys both had defenses that played badly and got exploited by good quarterback play.
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Stroud and Love have the same agent. They gonna get loving paid.
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Every defense in the modern NFL is bad if they can't get pressure. It's pretty much the only thing that counteracts the way passing games have developed and how the game has been called the last 15 or so years.
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BlindSite posted:Browns and cowboys both had defenses that played badly and got exploited by good quarterback play. It doesn’t let comparison be the thief of joy imo. It heightens the joy. Like watching vegeta defeat Zarbon before watching Goku defeat Frieza.
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When the Texans play Baltimore they'll get a test against the actual best defense in the league. Should be a fun one.
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Ornery and Hornery posted:It doesn’t let comparison be the thief of joy imo. It heightens the joy. I think we can all find a peaceful equitable position which is lmao Dak because green Bay defense bad and gently caress the cowboys.
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BlindSite posted:Browns and cowboys both had defenses that played badly and got exploited by good quarterback play. Good QB's put up better stat lines against good defenses than bad ones do. Crazy I know. Good baseball pitchers have higher earned run averages against good hitting teams. It's insane.
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Stroud and Love will lead the league for years to come. Switching gears however, I believe Michael Penix Jr in Minnesota could be a game changer.
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Ornery and Hornery posted:Just because the cowboys defense was good doesn’t mean that the cowboys defense was anywhere close to as good as the historically excellent Browns D. Thanks for typing this out. That "Composite Index of Assets" chart or whatever, which listed 2024 draft picks & cap space & salaries which can be converted, had the same issue. Sorted each category by rank, top team got 100%, bottom 0%, linear spacing all the way down. Dumbass "ooh let's put multiple things in the same chart, regardless of their data sets" mentality.
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A Sneaker Broker posted:Stroud and Love will lead the league for years to come. Switching gears however, I believe Michael Penix Jr in Minnesota could be a game changer. I think he too could lead them to the NFC Championship, or possibly the Super Bowl, to lose in heartbreaking fashion.
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A Sneaker Broker posted:Stroud and Love will lead the league for years to come. Switching gears however, I believe Michael Penix Jr in Minnesota could be a game changer. Are Vikings fans ready to say Mike Penix? They're good simple folk and it's such a crass name 
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The Vikings are gonna give up the farm to draft Daniels, I can feel it in my bones.
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IcePhoenix posted:The Vikings are gonna give up the farm to draft Daniels, I can feel it in my bones. They need to go young.
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A Sneaker Broker posted:They need to go young. Well he is younger than Penix so it checks out
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BiggerBoat posted:Good QB's put up better stat lines against good defenses than bad ones do. Crazy I know. I can’t figure out what the actual point of this post is
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Amy Pole Her posted:I can’t figure out what the actual point of this post is I dunno either tbh. I read it trying to parse it and I'm just wondering how water being wet kinda reasoning fits into celebrating cool players doin cool stuff at cool times.
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NSFW for language https://twitter.com/MonkeyD_Gucci/status/1747285315037892864 CJ ain't doing rookie stuff. Neither is Bryce but in the other direction.
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Ornery and Hornery posted:Just because the cowboys defense was good doesn’t mean that the cowboys defense was anywhere close to as good as the historically excellent Browns D. That wasn’t what I was saying. I was saying comparing them as if one being better actually matters when it doesn’t But this is irrelevant as the Browns Defense was really bad no matter how many useless numbers you post
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C. Everett Koop posted:NSFW for language CJ Stroud
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zimbomonkey posted:it was all right there for anyone with eyes to see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvGNbCA8zlM
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