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Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
Is there a decent metronome phone app? Like one that doesn't suck to use and you don't gotta close ads every 30 seconds

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bees x1000
Jun 11, 2020

Wowporn posted:

Is there a decent metronome phone app? Like one that doesn't suck to use and you don't gotta close ads every 30 seconds

I dunno about metronomes specifically but with Garageband (iOS) or Caustic 3 (Android) you can make whatever beat you need for free.

TEMPLE GRANDIN OS
Dec 10, 2003

...blyat
can't you just look outside for a lost drummer

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



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No insane mode!? I guess my Fear Factory covers album isn’t going to come to fruition.

luchadornado
Oct 7, 2004

A boombox is not a toy!

TEMPLE GRANDIN OS posted:

can't you just look outside for a lost drummer

If you're cold - they're cold. Let them in!

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

Top Class!

Wowporn posted:

Is there a decent metronome phone app? Like one that doesn't suck to use and you don't gotta close ads every 30 seconds

Soundbrenner suits me fine. They try to sell you their watches when you open the app, but that's about it

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
nm

800peepee51doodoo
Mar 1, 2001

Volute the swarth, trawl betwixt phonotic
Scoff the festune
I just tried out Easy Metronome for android and it seems fine. 4.9 rated on the play store and I didn't get any ads or nags after running it for several minutes.

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

I use the Justin Guitar Time Trainer one. It's a couple bucks, but no nonsense.

TEMPLE GRANDIN OS
Dec 10, 2003

...blyat
beato interview with Matteo Mancuso p good that guy is an alien

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR
I use Pro Metronome for Android and it's been fine. If you want to use the rhythm trainer you have to upgrade, but for basic programmable metronomes it's been ad free for me. The Tap function is pretty good for an android app too.

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


I’m trying to figure out the riff to Godzilla. I’m working off of this video, but I’m lost on a couple parts.

- What fingering should I use for this? I get that it’s a power chord so it’s just increments of 0-2-2, but this guy’s using just his index finger and pinky which I’ve never done before.
- How do you strum only the 3, 4, and 5 strings? The guy in the video seems to just strum the whole drat thing while only three strings play at a time.
- It’s hard to tell, but I think this guy’s fingers are flat against the strings? I always thought you’re supposed to curve them so you don’t touch other strings on accident.

Pollyanna fucked around with this message at 00:54 on Jan 14, 2024

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR

Pollyanna posted:

I’m trying to figure out the riff to Godzilla. I’m working off of this video, but I’m lost on a couple parts.

- What fingering should I use for this? I get that it’s a power chord so it’s just increments of 0-2-2, but this guy’s using just his index finger and pinky which I’ve never done before.
- How do you strum only the 3, 4, and 5 strings? The guy in the video seems to just strum the whole drat thing while only three strings play at a time.
- It’s hard to tell, but I think this guy’s fingers are flat against the strings? I always thought you’re supposed to curve them so you don’t touch other strings on accident.

He's leaving the octave off the power chord, so just fretting root with index and fifth with pinky. Doesn't look like he's barring the octave with pinky but some people do that too.

Good string muting using both hands as needed. It comes naturally after enough practice but you will be able to strum single note lines eventually. Try practicing strumming all six strings but only allowing one to sound at a time (the notes don't really matter as much as the technique for practice)

See point above - the flatness is part of muting the strings you aren't playing. Curving is for when you want notes to ring out, but it's not usually good practice with distortion as unmuted strings will be very obvious. Classical technique allows a lot more of that style as it's played cleanly.

800peepee51doodoo
Mar 1, 2001

Volute the swarth, trawl betwixt phonotic
Scoff the festune

Pollyanna posted:

I’m trying to figure out the riff to Godzilla. I’m working off of this video, but I’m lost on a couple parts.

- What fingering should I use for this? I get that it’s a power chord so it’s just increments of 0-2-2, but this guy’s using just his index finger and pinky which I’ve never done before.
- How do you strum only the 3, 4, and 5 strings? The guy in the video seems to just strum the whole drat thing while only three strings play at a time.

-Some people prefer power chords with index and pinky, others like index and ring finger. It doesn't matter really, just whatever is most comfortable for you. There's advantages to either method.
-You mute the 6th string with either your thumb wrapped over the top or your index finger pushed up against it. Takes a little practice but string muting and targeting only the strings you want to play is a part of the learning process.

duodenum
Sep 18, 2005

edit: no drunk posting.

insane clown pussy
Jun 20, 2023

Pollyanna posted:

- It’s hard to tell, but I think this guy’s fingers are flat against the strings? I always thought you’re supposed to curve them so you don’t touch other strings on accident.

if you look closely you can see his index finger is curved just a little bit so it rests on the unused strings, but he's still in barre position right up against the fret

Stalizard
Aug 11, 2006

Have I got a headache!

Pollyanna posted:

I’m trying to figure out the riff to Godzilla. I’m working off of this video, but I’m lost on a couple parts.

- What fingering should I use for this? I get that it’s a power chord so it’s just increments of 0-2-2, but this guy’s using just his index finger and pinky which I’ve never done before.
- How do you strum only the 3, 4, and 5 strings? The guy in the video seems to just strum the whole drat thing while only three strings play at a time.
- It’s hard to tell, but I think this guy’s fingers are flat against the strings? I always thought you’re supposed to curve them so you don’t touch other strings on accident.

curve em when you're playing individual strings, flatten em for A and E chords and then later all of the rest of them, as necessary. I came up playing cello and my teachers always hammered curved fingertips into my brain, but this is guitar and technique is not quite so set in stone as long as you're getting the sound you want.

strumming specific strings just takes practice. if you can mute the rest of em given your chord shape, great, but you'll get to the point where you can just strum the ones you want to strum if you keep at it

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

Stalizard posted:

if you're using a modeling amp and you find a tone you really like like, is that something they can take away from you with a software update? like say you dialed in the perfect rat style distortion and then they update their rat pedal and now it sounds like poo poo, is there anything you can do to get your old sound back? is this a thing that happens or am I just making up a guy in my head to be mad at?

As I understand it AxeFX updates are sometimes like this as cliff decides he doesent like how some transistor is modelled, decides he can do it better and now all your patches are different. I think there’s an amp in there that’s only there because Metallica were like “can you bring back the old version please we were touring with it”

Line 6 do not, the new cab list are just moved the old ones to a different menu.

sephiRoth IRA
Jun 13, 2007

"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality."

-Carl Sagan
Can someone, in terms designed for particularly stupid children, explain how the interface between pedals, an Amp, a head(??), my computer, and my guitar works, and what I need?

20 years ago I bought a guitar off of Craigslist from an old man for 200 bucks. It includes a case and an Amp. I half heartedly plink at it and put it away for 19.5 years until now, when I have disposable income to pay for lessons and more dedication than I had in my teens.

It turns out the guitar is nice, the case is primo, and I got about 6-800 bucks worth of stuff for 200. The guy was paying it forward, I imagine. The amp, however, appears to be a Marshall MG15? Which is... fine, but now that I've been playing for a bit I'm wanting to get a katana mk 2. A decent (and probably final) step up since I only play in my basement. Bonus is that my kid has picked up guitar, so a second amp makes sense if we want to do stuff together. I already got her a nice kid-size beginner instrument.

My questions:

1. Right now, my setup is "plug guitar into amp, shred". Does that change with the katana? The whole computer app thing intimidates me.

2. Do I need pedals or can the katana replicate those? I want some punchy sound akin to the metal bands I like and I'm totally in the dark of what I need in addition to the amp itself. I don't feel a burning need to get a pedal, but I do have funds available and it might be fun to grab something that lets me do cool poo poo I can't do with the katana alone.

3. Say I buy a pedal- do I need additional components to make sure the guitar signal is... enough(?) Prior to getting to the amp?

4. I would like to start playing a track from my PC with the guitar dropped so I can play along. Can the katana do this? Do I need a separate speaker?

5. Do I need anything in addition to the amp? I see these stacks with multiple boxes and it's super confusing because I'm inept. Im pretty sure i dont need any of that poo poo, but i have yet to find a useful YouTube video guide to this because my algorithm thinks I want to see exclusively sloppy motorhead tutorials put on by hirsute men. Not sure how that happened.

800peepee51doodoo
Mar 1, 2001

Volute the swarth, trawl betwixt phonotic
Scoff the festune
First of all, don't be intimidated! I promise this stuff is not as complex as you might think. The Katana has an interface built in to it so you can connect it directly to your computer with a USB cable. I don't personally have one or know what your set up is like but worst case scenario here is that you may need to install some drivers and select it as an audio input/output in your system settings. You should be able to play backing tracks and songs to play along with, no problem. No additional software should be required unless you want to record, which is a different animal and is a bit more complicated (but still not too bad).

The Katana is a modeling amp and comes with a bunch of different amp sounds and effects. Its a combo amp meaning that it is an amplifier and a speaker box in one unit. When people talk about amp heads, they mean just the amplifier which needs a separate speaker cabinet to make noise. I can't imagine you would need any other equipment besides the Katana to do what you want to do. There's a reason everyone here suggests it as a first amp - its cheap, it sounds good, its versatile, and its easy to use. It has a really nice high gain metal tone out of the box. You 100% definitely do not need a huge pile of amps and speaker cabs that you see on stages (the bands almost certainly don't need them either, its all there just to look cool) and you will not need additional effects pedals, at least not yet. Just get yourself the amp, plug in the guitar and start goofing around with it. Making noise is fun!

widefault
Mar 16, 2009
I think I mentioned the last time I stopped at the one pawnshop I got waved over to check out the stuff they had just bought; Twin Reverb & Deluxe Reverb Reissue, USA Tele, and a Mesa Boogie Rosette acoustic amp. Didn't get there last Friday because of a snowstorm, skipped going Saturday because the roads were questionable.

Stopped today, the Twin is $900(meh), the Tele $800(meh), the Mesa Boogie $700(a deal)and the Deluxe Reverb is gone. "It sold this morning." "How much, if you don't mind?" "$475."

And again, why I tell myself, ALWAYS STOP AT THE PAWNSHOPS

Arcsech
Aug 5, 2008

sephiRoth IRA posted:

My questions:

1. Right now, my setup is "plug guitar into amp, shred". Does that change with the katana? The whole computer app thing intimidates me.

2. Do I need pedals or can the katana replicate those? I want some punchy sound akin to the metal bands I like and I'm totally in the dark of what I need in addition to the amp itself. I don't feel a burning need to get a pedal, but I do have funds available and it might be fun to grab something that lets me do cool poo poo I can't do with the katana alone.

3. Say I buy a pedal- do I need additional components to make sure the guitar signal is... enough(?) Prior to getting to the amp?

4. I would like to start playing a track from my PC with the guitar dropped so I can play along. Can the katana do this? Do I need a separate speaker?

5. Do I need anything in addition to the amp? I see these stacks with multiple boxes and it's super confusing because I'm inept. Im pretty sure i dont need any of that poo poo, but i have yet to find a useful YouTube video guide to this because my algorithm thinks I want to see exclusively sloppy motorhead tutorials put on by hirsute men. Not sure how that happened.

1. No. There is an app you can use that I think unlocks a few more amp/pedal models but it’s totally optional, you can only ever use the controls on the top of the unit and be happy.

2. The Katana can do a few kinds of amps and a few kinds of pedals. If you don’t know that you need more than what’s on the unit, you’ll be fine with it until you want to make a specific sound and can’t do it.

3. No. If you buy a pedal, you’ll need a power supply for it. Very nearly every pedal in the universe uses the same power supply connector and a 9 volt supply, it’s a pretty standard thing. The ones that don’t use that power supply usually come with their own. You’ll also need an extra instrument cable to got between the pedal and amp. That’s it.

4. Yes, the Katana can do that. There are a couple different ways to do it actually, I don’t own a Katana myself but IIRC there’s an aux in jack you could just plug into the audio out of your PC or phone, or you can plug it in via USB and it’ll show up as an audio device you can play sound through.

5. The thing with the stacks or amp heads & speaker cabinets is that in that setup, the amp electronics and the speaker are in different boxes and have a speaker cable (which use the same connector as, but are different from, instrument cables. Never use and instrument cable as a speaker cable, it’s a fire hazard) connecting the two. In combo amps, they’re in the same box. That’s it. Some people like stacks because they let you switch out the speaker easily, which can have a big impact on the sound and volume, especially when you hook up multiple speakers to the same amp. Some people like combos because carrying around one unit is nice and simple. They’re both fine, it’s just a matter of preference. If you buy a combo amp new, it should come with everything you need in the box. Maybe minus an instrument cable, but picking up a reasonably nice instrument cable is worth the money anyway - nothing crazy, just something with cloth jacketing and quality construction that won’t tangle easily or wear out quickly.

sephiRoth IRA
Jun 13, 2007

"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality."

-Carl Sagan

800peepee51doodoo posted:

First of all, don't be intimidated! I promise this stuff is not as complex as you might think. The Katana has an interface built in to it so you can connect it directly to your computer with a USB cable. I don't personally have one or know what your set up is like but worst case scenario here is that you may need to install some drivers and select it as an audio input/output in your system settings. You should be able to play backing tracks and songs to play along with, no problem. No additional software should be required unless you want to record, which is a different animal and is a bit more complicated (but still not too bad).

The Katana is a modeling amp and comes with a bunch of different amp sounds and effects. Its a combo amp meaning that it is an amplifier and a speaker box in one unit. When people talk about amp heads, they mean just the amplifier which needs a separate speaker cabinet to make noise. I can't imagine you would need any other equipment besides the Katana to do what you want to do. There's a reason everyone here suggests it as a first amp - its cheap, it sounds good, its versatile, and its easy to use. It has a really nice high gain metal tone out of the box. You 100% definitely do not need a huge pile of amps and speaker cabs that you see on stages (the bands almost certainly don't need them either, its all there just to look cool) and you will not need additional effects pedals, at least not yet. Just get yourself the amp, plug in the guitar and start goofing around with it. Making noise is fun!


This is so helpful, thank you both! It's nice to know I don't have to overcomplicate things :)

sephiRoth IRA fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Jan 16, 2024

luchadornado
Oct 7, 2004

A boombox is not a toy!

As a pedal lover - avoid the rabbit hole as long as possible. It will be a long time before the "wrong" sound affects your playing more than just not being good.

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005

luchadornado posted:

As a pedal lover - avoid the rabbit hole as long as possible. It will be a long time before the "wrong" sound affects your playing more than just not being good.

that true for pedals, but a new guitar is always helpful of course.

also I think this Elyssian Trident II set is my favorite pickup set I've tried so far. the bridge for sure is perfect for me. it has the good chonk to it, but when you play some discordant poo poo the notes still come through nice and good. people who really like their twang and spank type stuff might not like it as much, it's very gentle on the high end. when it comes to the raw unmixed tone, i generally hate the bridge pickup when playing around on the plain strings, but this one is still pretty smooth.

Malaria
Oct 21, 2017



What do shops charge to change pickups? I have the worst possible guitar for it, a semi hollow ES-335 type (It's a Heritage H535).

I've done pickup swaps in other guitars and it wasn't too bad but I am terrified of trying it through the F holes.

I love that guitar but I sorta don't love the bridge pickup. It's got Ducan 59s. I love the 59 in the neck, it's literally my favorite neck pickup. I have it in a few guitars. But it's just so...Not good in the Bridge. I prefer a hotter bridge pickup.

I kinda want to throw a JB in the bridge. I don't know if people do that to ESS-335s. I've never seen one with a JB at least. I love that combo though.

I'd also love a push/pull phase knob. I like the out of phase middle position a lot. I have a HH G&L tele that has that and it's great. It was a mod done by the previous owner.

How much are we talking to have a pro do all that? 300 bucks? 500? 100? I have no idea what that stuff costs. I've never had any pro work done.

moon demon
Sep 11, 2001

of the moon, of the dream
My loving wife commenting on my practicing tonight: “…well, I mean at least you’re not getting worse”

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

Top Class!

luchadornado posted:

As a pedal lover - avoid the rabbit hole as long as possible. It will be a long time before the "wrong" sound affects your playing more than just not being good.

I've actually wound waaay back on pedals recently and I'm looking at selling some. I I've replaced my 8-10 pedal board with one that holds 3-4 and I'm basically just putting a tuner and a couple of drive/dirts on it, maybe a chorus if I'm feeling 80s. I'm sure I'll swing back the way at some point, but they can easily become middle-aged Hot Wheels if you're not careful (colourful, collectable, look cool lined up).

I use a Katana Mk II at home, or Bias 2 late at night, and both do pretty much everything I want unless I'm wanting to go full My Bloody Valentine.

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

Picking up learning again after doing a big dumb 12 years ago and selling the guitar I had. Finger stretching exercises are gonna be my life for the next month+ because lol my range of motion is trash. Having a blast though, need to re-string and do a full setup which is later today most likely. THIS TIME I'll actually do thing.

PathAsc fucked around with this message at 10:35 on Jan 16, 2024

fullroundaction
Apr 20, 2007

Drink beer every day

moon demon posted:

My loving wife commenting on my practicing tonight: “…well, I mean at least you’re not getting worse”

Don't worry honey, I'm saving that for when I hit 'record'.

nitsuga
Jan 1, 2007

Malaria posted:

What do shops charge to change pickups? I have the worst possible guitar for it, a semi hollow ES-335 type (It's a Heritage H535).

I've done pickup swaps in other guitars and it wasn't too bad but I am terrified of trying it through the F holes.

I love that guitar but I sorta don't love the bridge pickup. It's got Ducan 59s. I love the 59 in the neck, it's literally my favorite neck pickup. I have it in a few guitars. But it's just so...Not good in the Bridge. I prefer a hotter bridge pickup.

I kinda want to throw a JB in the bridge. I don't know if people do that to ESS-335s. I've never seen one with a JB at least. I love that combo though.

I'd also love a push/pull phase knob. I like the out of phase middle position a lot. I have a HH G&L tele that has that and it's great. It was a mod done by the previous owner.

How much are we talking to have a pro do all that? 300 bucks? 500? 100? I have no idea what that stuff costs. I've never had any pro work done.

I’d make some calls. If you’re talking all in though, it’s going to run you $300 pretty easily with parts and labor. More wouldn’t surprise me too much, it is a difficult job. Maybe your best option for saving some is looking for someone (skilled) working out of their basement.

insane clown pussy
Jun 20, 2023

some shops charge per pickup so it might not be too bad if you're only replacing the bridge one, but yeah be prepared to spend at least the cost of the pickup itself on installation in a semihollow

Plank Walker
Aug 11, 2005

PathAsc posted:

Picking up learning again after doing a big dumb 12 years ago and selling the guitar I had. Finger stretching exercises are gonna be my life for the next month+ because lol my range of motion is trash. Having a blast though, need to re-string and do a full setup which is later today most likely. THIS TIME I'll actually do thing.

If you're getting back into it, I recommend going whole hog and getting the Berklee Modern Method book, the first like 4 pages will be easy, just C scale in open position. Like 10 pages in they hit you with the "First Solo" (solo as in unaccompanied, playing bass and melody simultaneously, not like shredding a solo) and later on a series of chord etudes that will force you to learn triad shapes and changing between them. The scale patterns and the way they're laid out will also train finger stretching. Plus, you'll learn to read sheet music for guitar.

I wish I had picked it up earlier, having bounced around between Justin Guitar modules with no sense of direction and learning songs randomly. It's structured really well for progression: e.g. you'll get one piece with like a single xx431x triad shape, with a nice easy transition, and then 5 pages later you'll be playing that shape multiple times with varied transitions.

Only "downside" is that none of the songs are rock but you can always look up tabs for songs you want to play in addition to doing the book work.

Or just get an instructor

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


Trying to string mute and jump around the fretboard at the same time is a lot harder than I thought :negative: Maybe the Godzilla riff isn’t the best place to start? I wish I was better with my hands…

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

Plank Walker posted:

If you're getting back into it, I recommend going whole hog and getting the Berklee Modern Method book, the first like 4 pages will be easy, just C scale in open position. Like 10 pages in they hit you with the "First Solo" (solo as in unaccompanied, playing bass and melody simultaneously, not like shredding a solo) and later on a series of chord etudes that will force you to learn triad shapes and changing between them. The scale patterns and the way they're laid out will also train finger stretching. Plus, you'll learn to read sheet music for guitar.

I wish I had picked it up earlier, having bounced around between Justin Guitar modules with no sense of direction and learning songs randomly. It's structured really well for progression: e.g. you'll get one piece with like a single xx431x triad shape, with a nice easy transition, and then 5 pages later you'll be playing that shape multiple times with varied transitions.

Only "downside" is that none of the songs are rock but you can always look up tabs for songs you want to play in addition to doing the book work.

Or just get an instructor

I appreciate this, and I may as well get it tbh. More info is always useful and I like bouncing around to different resources so thank you!

TEMPLE GRANDIN OS
Dec 10, 2003

...blyat
I have the method book I should open it lol

moon demon
Sep 11, 2001

of the moon, of the dream
that book looks... pretty daunting to my beginner rear end

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



Pollyanna posted:

Trying to string mute and jump around the fretboard at the same time is a lot harder than I thought :negative: Maybe the Godzilla riff isn’t the best place to start? I wish I was better with my hands…

im not suggesting you switch to thumb over or this hybrid pick technique but theres stuff related to selective muting in this vid that ive spent maybe 20 years trying to do and still cant do nearly as well as this guy. Just in case you're wondering how hard it can really be. but also it's a good video just to see how people approach things differently

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlMCkvGTEN0

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

Book, and others, acquired. Guitar is in the shop and I'll either get it back today or tomorrow. Hopefully today as I really don't wanna miss a day of practicing but oh well if not I suppose. I'm a habitual gear idiot, but I know it's practice that's going to make me good, everything else is just for flavor. I've got extra time I could be using to do that today so it kinda sucks to not get to utilize it.

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Huxley
Oct 10, 2012



Grimey Drawer
If you just bought Berklee, can you read music (vs tab)? If not, that's a good place to start today without an instrument.

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