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Hakkesshu posted:Jerry's stand-up isn't that funny, he notably keeps it all very PG, but he's extremely good at playing a crowd. There are no missed beats to be found. Maybe he used to be, but I saw him in Madison, WI, a little under 10 years ago and it was a painfully awkward show. He was also staying at the hotel where I was the director of marketing when he did that show. We made sure to escort him out the side exit to avoid attention in the lobby, and the bell guy accidentally dropped his suitcase down a couple of stairs. Seinfeld shrieked, "Oh, no, the jewels!" and then looked around at the half-dozen staff members present, including myself, hoping for a laugh that never came.
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This conversation is coming at a good time for me, because I started recently watching Seinfeld for the very first time, and I'm actually enjoying it more than I thought I would. I had caught some random episodes here and there and thought it was okay, but I decided to just dive in from season 1 to give it a go. Season 1 feels strange, mainly George being way less neurotic than he later becomes (my brother said Jason Alexander started playing him more like Woody Allen before realizing he was written to be more like Larry David, so he leaned in on that), and in season 2 there's an episode (The Deal) that ends with Jerry and Elaine getting back together, and it's just forgotten immediately the next episode. But I'm into season 3 now, and I'm having a great time. The only part I could completely cut out are the stand up bits that serve as the framing device for each episode. They're painfully unfunny, and make it seem like Jerry is a terrible comedian, despite constant cuts to the audience dying of laughter.
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Jan 17, 2024 15:27
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The good news is that later on in the series, the show more or less recognizes that Jerry's character is a bit of a hack.
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Jan 17, 2024 15:35
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Seinfeld's actual standup was never particularly amazing even back when the show was on.
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Jan 17, 2024 15:59
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IRQ posted:Seinfeld's actual standup was never particularly amazing even back when the show was on. I know it's been pointed out a lot, but hard agree on Jerry being the weakest actor by far on the show. Jason Alexander and JLD are the MVPs. The early show got better and better as they built up Elaine's character.
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Jan 17, 2024 16:03
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I did love that despite Jerry being a very successful comedian in the show and actually making a lot of money, every time he mentioned that characters would respond with disbelief because they'd seen his act and thought there was no way he could be making a proper living out of it. There's a whole storyline about his parents being kicked out of their condo unit in Florida because Jerry buys his dad a nice car and everybody assumes his dad must be embezzling money and using Jerry to launder it because "we've seen Jerry's act".
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Jan 17, 2024 16:10
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thrawn527 posted:This conversation is coming at a good time for me, because I started recently watching Seinfeld for the very first time, and I'm actually enjoying it more than I thought I would. I had caught some random episodes here and there and thought it was okay, but I decided to just dive in from season 1 to give it a go. Season 1 feels strange, mainly George being way less neurotic than he later becomes (my brother said Jason Alexander started playing him more like Woody Allen before realizing he was written to be more like Larry David, so he leaned in on that), and in season 2 there's an episode (The Deal) that ends with Jerry and Elaine getting back together, and it's just forgotten immediately the next episode. But I'm into season 3 now, and I'm having a great time. Don't worry. They start cutting down on them significantly beginning with the fourth season, and not long after that they're gone almost completely.
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Jan 17, 2024 16:22
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Timby posted:Don't worry. They start cutting down on them significantly beginning with the fourth season, and not long after that they're gone almost completely. Oh thank you.
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Jan 17, 2024 16:44
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Timby posted:Maybe he used to be, but I saw him in Madison, WI, a little under 10 years ago and it was a painfully awkward show. Post TV-show Jerry Seinfeld is absolutely dire. When he was good -- and at best I think he was only good, never great -- his humor was all about observing common, every day annoyances and heightening them to a comedic level. Once he became a hundred millionaire, he stopped having common, every day annoyances and started having lovely rich people annoyances, which made his humor unwatchable.
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Jan 17, 2024 17:03
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I honestly think Seinfeld is as close as a sitcom can come to evergreen. So much of it is about classic pettiness and tiny everyday nonsense that it’ll remain hashtag relatable for a very long time.
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Jan 17, 2024 17:16
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The best Seinfeld material you can get these days are impersonators doing "What's the deal with girlfriends? You ask them out on a lunch date, but they say they can't go because they have to go to history class."
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Jan 17, 2024 17:40
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Escobarbarian posted:I honestly think Seinfeld is as close as a sitcom can come to evergreen. So much of it is about classic pettiness and tiny everyday nonsense that it’ll remain hashtag relatable for a very long time. Yeah, like I know I'm not saying anything new here, because how can you with a show like Seinfeld, but the episode The Chinese Restaurant is a perfect one act play. George's whole, "We're living in a society!" because someone jumps in front of him for a payphone is both relatable and a perfect example of the show being dated because, you know, payphones. But that whole episode was amazing.
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Jan 17, 2024 17:43
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The punchline to The Marine Biologist is perfect tv.
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Jan 17, 2024 17:47
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Longest sustained "shot-before-a-studio-audience" laugh I've ever seen in my life.
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Jan 17, 2024 17:50
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howe_sam posted:The punchline to The Marine Biologist is perfect tv. Actually, yes, I caught that episode on Comedy Central back in December, and the end of the episode is what convinced me to finally go back and watch the show from the beginning. It was the first time I realized, "Oh, everyone else is right about this show."
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Jan 17, 2024 17:50
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thrawn527 posted:Actually, yes, I caught that episode on Comedy Central back in December, and the end of the episode is what convinced me to finally go back and watch the show from the beginning. It was the first time I realized, "Oh, everyone else is right about this show." What episode is that if I wanted to give it a go myself?
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Jan 17, 2024 17:52
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PriorMarcus posted:What episode is that if I wanted to give it a go myself? The Marine Biologist, season 5, episode 14.
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Jan 17, 2024 17:54
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The sea was angry that day my friends
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Jan 17, 2024 17:54
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God that is a loving amazing ending
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Jan 17, 2024 17:58
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The first episode of Seinfeld I ever saw was on syndication on UPN and it was one of the clip shows. I eventually learned to love the show, but what a confusing introduction.
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Jan 17, 2024 18:04
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https://twitter.com/MaryCeleste1872/status/1744137560824197175 It's true I can't think of a single political thing in the whole series.
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Jan 17, 2024 18:19
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There are conservative Star Trek fans. The Reddit for Babylon 5 has a vocal minority who claim that the show’s dramatization of the rise of fascism is actually about the intolerance of people who criticize racism and anti-trans posting.
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Jan 17, 2024 18:21
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I think the common denominator here is "conservatives are stupid"
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Jan 17, 2024 18:22
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I was in the mood for trash TV last night, and I've heard Suits is a pretty garbage TV show with a big following so I decided to check out the pilot. Well, they weren't wrong in that it was dumpster television. The premise was dumb, the characters were over the top, and I couldn't quite get past the fact that the lead guy (Harvey) has a head like a potato that's been carved into the vague shape of a pumpkin.
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Jan 17, 2024 18:43
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zoux posted:I think the common denominator here is "conservatives are stupid" This is so deeply dead stupid I just don't think they paid any attention at all to what was going on on screen.
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Jan 17, 2024 18:59
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I mean, a group that famously picks and chooses facts to frame their world view deliberately misinterpreting media seems decidedly on brand.
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Jan 17, 2024 19:11
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Skip Seinfeld and watch https://i.imgur.com/v6Dn2ZT.mp4
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Jan 17, 2024 19:57
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thrawn527 posted:and in season 2 there's an episode (The Deal) that ends with Jerry and Elaine getting back together, and it's just forgotten immediately the next episode. I BELIEVE this was a studio mandated thing that they gave in to but then said 'actually, no, gently caress that'. There's a full series of Seinfeld rewatch articles on AVClub that are good read as you go through.
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Jan 17, 2024 21:13
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Holy poo poo. The Brothers Sun is so loving good! Such a well constructed crime drama. Also it features fun Chinese song covers and absolutely delicious looking food. I absolutely lost it at episode 7, when they're holding a once in a generation triad boss meeting at a fancy restaurant and the camera pans over to one of those guys filling himself a loving doggy bag. cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Jan 17, 2024 |
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Jan 17, 2024 21:35
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They put Eddie Izzard above Rodney Dangerfield, that must be some fine rear end crack over at Rolling Stone
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Jan 18, 2024 00:35
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXN5Ws7LxkA I wonder how many people are about to learn that Coco Chanel was a huge anti-semite and nazi collaborator / spy.
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Jan 18, 2024 01:59
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https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/amazon-wonder-project-faith-based-films-shows-house-of-david-1235875596/ Lol okay Amazon, keep flailing.
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Jan 18, 2024 04:07
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thrawn527 posted:The Marine Biologist, season 5, episode 14. May I also suggest The Fusilli Jerry? (Season 6, Episode 21)
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Jan 18, 2024 04:08
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Open Source Idiom posted:https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/amazon-wonder-project-faith-based-films-shows-house-of-david-1235875596/ Hell yes! Big budget historical epics are back! Hollywood is saved!
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Jan 18, 2024 04:17
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Bring back Kings
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Jan 18, 2024 04:27
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My wife and I watched the reboot of @midnight, After Midnight and it was rough to say the least. Taylor Tomlinson was ok, its very clear this is her first hosting gig of any kind so I am not judging her for the first episode and I hope (and believe) she will grow into it. The biggest issue out the gate is that its an hour long, its basically doing what @midnight did but just doing a lot more of it so it gets stale and spins its wheels pretty fast. They would be better off doing two episodes a night with different contestants, or do a Jeopardy like thing where the winner stays on to the next episode. Between that and the editing, it felt like a slog. I showed my wife an old clip on Youtube of the OG @midnight (it had Ron Funchess, Nikki Glaser, and Doug Benson so it was sort of a stacked lineup) and the difference was clear in pacing and punchiness. I bet a competent editor could make what they put out into a solid half hour that was pretty close to the old version. I will watch this week, but after that I don't think I will be watching again unless someone I really want to seeis on it. But I hope when that happens they have the pacing and editing figured out by then, because the concept is great and is a really great way to showcase up and coming talent and stand ups.
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Jan 18, 2024 04:53
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The ending to Boy Swallows Universe made an abrupt turn into being a Batman story, which is not what I expected out of a Tim Winton pastiche
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Jan 18, 2024 06:12
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Azhais posted:Bring back Kings 
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Jan 18, 2024 07:29
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Azhais posted:Bring back Kings This, but only if they can get the supporting cast back. I want more Macaulay Culkin being a weird little loving freak and Ian McShane.
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Khanstant posted:Idk how applicable it is, humour evolves over time and this seems comparable to the same people watching a 40 year old US comedy. It's exceptional when old comedies hold up nearing a half century later. At some point old shows become almost anthropological, you end up learning about an old cultures' attitudes and their preoccupations more than laughing at jokes. What do we call a phenomenon like the Simpsons where the first 8 (or so) seasons are still great to this day but the rest is weirdly out of date?
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