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When my university roomate got a first 360 I think he was super excited to show off Gears of War as this first new generations game still vividly remember that feeling of "lol, is this it? no wonder i got a pc instead" not to get too elitist, I actually think they are decent games and have played through all the campaigns at least once and a boat load of the mutiplayer horde mode
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JollyBoyJohn posted:When my university roomate got a first 360 I think he was super excited to show off Gears of War as this first new generations game I got Gears of War and Dead rising as my first 360 games but I had a SD TV at the time and couldn't read the text in dead rising at all, so I spent all my time in Gears of War online and have very fond memories of roadie running around at the speed of sound with a shotgun.
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Doom 64 sprites all look like poo poo putty so unfortunately none of it's qualities matter if you don't wanna look at that. All games made with those silicon graphics prerendered 2d sprites look like crap and also did back in the day. Their whole point was to trick people into thinking the game's 3d off tiny screenshots and to save on 2d artist budget. Completely disgusting.
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Jan 17, 2024 14:21
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Vic posted:Doom 64 sprites all look like poo poo putty so unfortunately none of it's qualities matter if you don't wanna look at that. I don't disagree but I prefer it to the original doom enemy sprites were somewhere pretty decent stop motion puppets and then others were just MS Paint and the two styles clashed hard against each other (like the Cyberdemon vs the Imp) I'd love an "HD remaster" of Doom using like proper puppets in high resolution.
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Jan 17, 2024 14:24
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More games should just go with proper claymation. It looks amazing! Although apparently the main guy behind it is a major douchebag, The Neverhood is still one of the best looking games. These been a few since then but their should be more. Also Jason and the Argonauts, Ray Harryhausen stopmotion animation games... I'm sure that could work somehow?
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Jan 17, 2024 14:58
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Phil Tippett + Skinner on a horror stop motion game would be sweet but we just gotta settle for Mad God and Shrine of Abominations
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Jan 17, 2024 14:59
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I tried to learn how to make stop motion dinosaur puppets because I wanted to make my own dinosaur themed doom mod, turns out that’s extremely difficult tho, especially when you have cats that want to knock poo poo over all the time
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Jan 17, 2024 15:06
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Mordor She Wrote posted:I tried to learn how to make stop motion dinosaur puppets because I wanted to make my own dinosaur themed doom mod, turns out that’s extremely difficult tho, especially when you have cats that want to knock poo poo over all the time ahh that sounded like it would of been amazing! But yeah can attest cat's are the enemy of stopmotion, and any animation is just incredibly time consuming. Although me and my mates did manage to do a stopmotion short film thing for a 48hr short film competition once. That was fun as hell but I would not recommend. ...actually yeah I would it was fun as hell, just don't expect sleep.
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Jan 17, 2024 15:16
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Mordor She Wrote posted:I tried to learn how to make stop motion dinosaur puppets because I wanted to make my own dinosaur themed doom mod, turns out that’s extremely difficult tho, especially when you have cats that want to knock poo poo over all the time stop-motion is one of the most tedious and delicate things you can do and if you gently caress minor poo poo up you ruined hours of work I learned how to animate stop motion on a 8mm video camera that had to record a couple frames before it stopped, the few years before digital photography; the only thing that saved my sanity was that my parents did have a tripod for that video camera. The number of times I rewinded the video, looked at a take, realized I hosed up the take and the timing on the videotape and i had to start back over and everything had to be perfect, before it really set in that everything has to be perfect in every shot and it's an art. Hundreds.
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Jan 17, 2024 15:19
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The key is to just fart out whatever, chump
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Jan 17, 2024 15:51
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we're due for a revival of stop-motion now that 3D tools can replicate the look perfectly but with significantly less fiddling see: worthikids
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repiv posted:we're due for a revival of stop-motion now that 3D tools can replicate the look perfectly but with significantly less fiddling 3D tools can not replicate the look of stop motion animation perfectly lol that looks fine but, like, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_M0I7aq2M4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLuW6LTOwIQ MrQwerty fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Jan 17, 2024 |
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Jan 17, 2024 16:56
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Anyone that has a VR device should try the VR mod for Doom 3. All the weaknesses of the original release actually work in VR's favor.
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Oh man, I dunno about skyrim without Colleen Delaney
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Vakal posted:Anyone that has a VR device should try the VR mod for Doom 3. All the weaknesses of the original release actually work in VR's favor. And Doom 1 and Doom 2 in VR with voxel weapons, items and enemies is an amazing experience.
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i did not like doom eternal as much as 2016 but my pc's processor was dying and i'd get blue screens every 30 to 90m when i was playing it so i don't know how much that colored my opinion of it
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Jan 17, 2024 17:38
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I played Doom Eternal on a PS4 and it was just absolute dogshit to play on a gamepad
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Doom 2016 is better I'm not trying to play a rhythm game im trying to murder demons also the monsters looked better honestly the entire render looked better in 2016
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Jan 17, 2024 17:53
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pretty impressed with id updating all their old games to run at modern resolutions and whatnot my little nephews love getting relentlessly owned in quake 2 split screen
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Jan 17, 2024 17:54
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hawowanlawow posted:pretty impressed with id updating all their old games to run at modern resolutions and whatnot the updated versions of Quake and Quake II were done by Nightdive and Machine Games
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hawowanlawow posted:pretty impressed with id updating all their old games to run at modern resolutions and whatnot MrQwerty posted:the updated versions of Quake and Quake II were done by Nightdive and Machine Games Also the Quake 1 version has some Bethesda poo poo that's annoying as hell, so I found better to just get a source port.
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MrQwerty posted:the updated versions of Quake and Quake II were done by Nightdive and Machine Games a couple of the devs who worked on those ports are goons 
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repiv posted:a couple of the devs who worked on those ports are goons A couple of devs who worked on insert_pretty_much_any_western_game_of_the_last_20_years are goons, I assure you.
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deep dish peat moss posted:I played Doom Eternal on a PS4 and it was just absolute dogshit to play on a gamepad I agree it sucks to play on a controller, but I've also beaten it on nightmare on the switch joycons
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Mordor She Wrote posted:
This is the first opinion in this thread that has made me feel an actual visceral reaction of revulsion.
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Waltzing Along posted:The biggest problem with Hades is the family reunion is just a text card. They should have had a ME Citadel style party where all the gods are hanging around and you can wander around chatting to them in groups and progress it a few times to move them around. This is my big complaint about Lords of the Fallen. All the endings are white text on black screen. Wow what a treat for suffering through torture.
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Jan 17, 2024 19:58
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hawowanlawow posted:pretty impressed with id updating all their old games to run at modern resolutions and whatnot Yeah my 15yo daughter stumbled on original doom and loved it, 'it's so fast!'. Kids are alright imo
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sebmojo posted:Yeah my 15yo daughter stumbled on original doom and loved it, 'it's so fast!'. Kids are alright imo So fast? OH NO SHE'LL CATCH THE SONIC! Once you have that you can't live as a normal human anymore.
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Mordor She Wrote posted:
Depends on what you mean by horror “themed” imo. Doom is fundamentally incompatible with “Eeeep!!! I’m so scared!” vibes of actual horror because it’s gameplay is ultimately based around being Sonic the Hedgehog with a bunch of powerful guns that give your enemies humiliating deaths. The gameplay just gives the player too much of a feeling of power and control to be truly scary.
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But when I played original Doom I both sucked and had terrible control options so it played more like Resident Evil than a fast pace FPS.
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sebmojo posted:Yeah my 15yo daughter stumbled on original doom and loved it, 'it's so fast!'. Kids are alright imo I played so much Quake Remaster when I found out I got it for free. The speed of oldschool shooters is very refreshing and it was very fun to rocket jump all over the place again.
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I never played Quake (at least not enough to really remember doing so) but one thing I know is it couldn't possible beat the Unreal Tournament translocator. Fast teleports that if you landed on somebody killed them.
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translocator kills were excellent, Quake was fast pure DM but UT99 really upped the bar and I really liked UT99 more than Q3
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I think one of the mistakes UT99 made was having a single player campaign at all. At the end of the day, all it did was provide something for players to potentially bounce against before experiencing the outstanding multiplayer. Quake 3, by comparison, forced you to jump right into the best part of it.
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Aramis posted:I think one of the mistakes UT99 made was having a single player campaign at all. At the end of the day, all it did was provide something for players to potentially bounce against before experiencing the outstanding multiplayer. You mean the very feature that made Unreal Tournament more popular over Quake in the year 1999 when people used 56k modems to connect to the internet from their workplace? Wild!
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Here's a movie theater payphone commercial from 1999
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Panzeh posted:I think Eternal's combat design is incredibly pushy in really, really wanting you to flip weapons every second and manage three cooldowns, etc. You can play it in a more conventional way but it really pushes back against you. The original dooms didn't need this- the weapons were just different and ammo was handed out in a way that prevented the use of the same weapon all the time (sometimes). Nice Van My Man posted:But when I played original Doom I both sucked and had terrible control options so it played more like Resident Evil than a fast pace FPS.  Doom 2016 on the highest difficulty section required/encouraged playing it more like a 3rd person action game - movement, positioning, and cooldown management are more important than twitch reflexes or shooting accuracy. You could still play it like a Resident Evil game for maybe 90% of the encounters Doom Eternal decided to make that the core mechanic of the game, which sucked 
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Yeah I bounced off Eternal because it was very twitchy, almost Quake like in that it expected you to be constantly jumping around, and it was kind of stingy with ammo. Excuse me I'm trying to have a power fantasy over here
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I wish there were a mod for doom eternal that made it play like doom get on it bethesda
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all of my DOOM playing as a kid was on a joystick, so no strafing it was ok to play but watching could make you pretty queasy I could probably still boot it up from DOS and calibrate the joystick in the corners from muscle memory
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