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apophenium posted:If Okada does indeed go to AEW I would have to think NJPW might start reconsidering their partnership but I dunno really how all that works. But it does seem bad for a lot of your big stars to keep leaving to work with your partner instead
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Okada leaving is terrible for Japanese wrestling even if aew gets him. I’ve never understood this place’s general animosity towards the idea that it’s still bad if TK is the one signing everyone away
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yea ok posted:Okada leaving is terrible for Japanese wrestling even if aew gets him. I’ve never understood this place’s general animosity towards the idea that it’s still bad if TK is the one signing everyone away TK doesn't sign people to his weird walled garden that actively shuns and looks down on the rest of the wrestling world. Simple as that.
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https://twitter.com/CarlMarxPunk/status/1748167754245374390?s=20
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yea ok posted:Okada leaving is terrible for Japanese wrestling even if aew gets him. I’ve never understood this place’s general animosity towards the idea that it’s still bad if TK is the one signing everyone away Workers getting more money is generally good.
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yea ok posted:Okada leaving is terrible for Japanese wrestling even if aew gets him. I’ve never understood this place’s general animosity towards the idea that it’s still bad if TK is the one signing everyone away I would prefer that Okada stay in New Japan but with the economic situation in Japan and him hiring an agent my preference is he sign with AEW than WWE. If he were just going to re-sign as normal I'd not love this but he wanted to test the market, and this is the best outcome if NJPW isn't going to step up again. They did when they signed him long term years ago, but upping their payscale for a guy who is on the decline didn't make sense to them. With that said Okada's decline phase will probably be extremely good.
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yea ok posted:Okada leaving is terrible for Japanese wrestling New Japan has booked themselves into a corner, All Japan are imploding, NOAH loving sucks, DDT still can't get the crowds back, GLEAT can't book for poo poo, I don't watch Dragongate It's 2AW's time to shine baby
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Pylons posted:Workers getting more money is generally good. It's terrible for wrestling in general that a couple american companies are the only ones with that money to throw around and so any stars made elsewhere become a part of their overflowing midcard toy collection.
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Okada should sign to Zona 23
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Acting like my boy Kenoh can’t carry Japan on his angry shoulders
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I think Okada has done all there is to do in NJPW. It's not like Tony is nabbing him halfway through his championship God Run.
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New Japan's loss is ChocoPro's gain
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Okada fight Ngannou you coward
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yea ok posted:Okada leaving is terrible for Japanese wrestling even if aew gets him. I’ve never understood this place’s general animosity towards the idea that it’s still bad if TK is the one signing everyone away Agreed but I think it's more an indictment of NJPW than it is of WWE or AEW, if they can't or won't make a competitive offer for their Top Guy I'm not sure what anyone else involved is supposed to do
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Okada executing New Japan gang style is Not Cinema dude
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It’s wrestling people leave companies and go to other companies literally all the time. The people don’t like it in wwe because wwe generally sucks rear end.
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Jackie D posted:Agreed but I think it's more an indictment of NJPW than it is of WWE or AEW, if they can't or won't make a competitive offer for their Top Guy I'm not sure what anyone else involved is supposed to do It's an indictment that a company in a struggling niche industry in a struggling economy can't afford to outbid two massive American companies with prime time television deals.... can't say I see the logic there to be honest?
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this kid is nuts posted:It's an indictment that a company in a struggling niche industry in a struggling economy can't afford to outbid two massive American companies with prime time television deals.... can't say I see the logic there to be honest? I don’t see how AEW is at fault there. If Okada is leaving the company and he feels he isn’t paid enough in his current role he’s supposed to stay there because of loyalty?
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AEW isn't "at fault", but saying it's an "indictment" of NJPW is a bit much isn't it?
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It's never going to be a good thing that an entire country is being demoted to America's Developmental. This is a gigantic deal and it's okay for puro fans to be in their fee fees over it
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The_Rob posted:I don’t see how AEW is at fault there. If Okada is leaving the company and he feels he isn’t paid enough in his current role he’s supposed to stay there because of loyalty? They didn't do anything wrong per se, but how many top NJPW guys are now in AEW? Even ignore guys like Kenny who left in the Meij era. Jay, Ospreay, potentially Okada. Some partnership.
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this kid is nuts posted:AEW isn't "at fault", but saying it's an "indictment" of NJPW is a bit much isn't it? If they aren’t paying their talent enough to keep them there they are going to leave. Same as with every other company out there. AEW is probably the best case scenario for New Japan because there’s a relationship there and AEW can loan those guys out to them.
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AEW could at least sign Yujiro and Chase Owens and some of the similar garbage along with the top guys
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Also wasn’t this news reported a couple months ago? Not to mention Okada has been with AEW since 07’ it’s not like he’s some young up and comer who never got his big break. He’s done everything for that company someone could possibly do.
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forkboy84 posted:They didn't do anything wrong per se, but how many top NJPW guys are now in AEW? Even ignore guys like Kenny who left in the Meij era. Jay, Ospreay, potentially Okada. Some partnership. AEW should have let them go to WWE to respect the partnership. It’s like they don’t even know how partnerships work
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The_Rob posted:Also wasn’t this news reported a couple months ago? Not to mention Okada has been with AEW since 07’ it’s not like he’s some young up and comer who never got his big break. He’s done everything for that company someone could possibly do. Trying to put together the timeline on this in my head
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Sign El Phantasmo Tony.
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The_Rob posted:If they aren’t paying their talent enough to keep them there they are going to leave. Same as with every other company out there. AEW is probably the best case scenario for New Japan because there’s a relationship there and AEW can loan those guys out to them. Right but... I'm saying NJPW aren't to blame for simply not being in a good enough position financially to outbid much bigger companies. And you're saying that actually it is their fault because they... aren't doing what they're not able to do? (or aren't you? gently caress knows) Sometimes it seems like people can't be honest and admit these acquisitions have shades of grey to them... it's a good thing that Okada is probably gonna get a massive pay day, and WWE/AEW are gonna get a world class talent, but on the other hand it doesn't bode well for the struggling Japanese wrestling industry
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forkboy84 posted:AEW could at least sign Yujiro and Chase Owens and some of the similar garbage along with the top guys It's within njpw's gift to get rid of these guys any time they want and has been for years.
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I suppose the question for me is this: what are people suggesting AEW should do to be a better partner?
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Tony should just be sending weekly payments to Japan to prop up their failing economy and industries. It's the right thing to do.
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Selfishly I want Okada in AEW because I'll get to see him on TV more and, presumably, could see him at a live show one day. At the same time I do see how it's a bad thing for New Japan to lose (yet another) major draw, but you can't blame Okada for wanting a change of scenery after so many years and to (presumably) get loving paid for it. I do wonder if this lends any more credibility to the rumors about Forbidden Door 3 taking place in Japan. Seems like AEW would want to throw some kind of bone after getting Ospreay for sure and possibly Okada, and having a major show with both those guys reappearing in Japan would help.
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Lamuella posted:I suppose the question for me is this: what are people suggesting AEW should do to be a better partner? buy njpw off bushiroad and give it to me
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Lamuella posted:I suppose the question for me is this: what are people suggesting AEW should do to be a better partner? don't bid up departing NJPW talent so that the talent gets paid less, WWE gets cheap NJPW talent, and Tozawa gets a dancing partner. its The Right Thing To Do
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Lamuella posted:I suppose the question for me is this: what are people suggesting AEW should do to be a better partner? Nothing, it's not their problem to fix. It just sucks. It would suck more if they went to WWE (but do you condemn WWE?)
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this kid is nuts posted:It's an indictment that a company in a struggling niche industry in a struggling economy can't afford to outbid two massive American companies with prime time television deals.... can't say I see the logic there to be honest? Bushiroad can afford to pay Okada competitively and give him more long term security, they are a huge company. It would be harder, but this isn't offering seven figures to an All Japan guy. MassRafTer fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Jan 19, 2024 |
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Yeah I think some people are looking at it wrong ITT. It's not about AEW being "at fault", they're doing what any logical wrestling company would do by acquiring the best talent they can get. It just isn't great for the Japanese scene, and I don't think fans of Japanese wrestling are weird for feeling unhappy about it
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this kid is nuts posted:Yeah I think some people are looking at it wrong ITT. It's not about AEW being "at fault", they're doing what any logical wrestling company would do by acquiring the best talent they can get. It just isn't great for the Japanese scene, and I don't think fans of Japanese wrestling are weird for feeling unhappy about it there's people that are unhappy about him leaving and there's people calling AEW a bad partner. i don't think anyone is mocking the former
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Lamuella posted:I suppose the question for me is this: what are people suggesting AEW should do to be a better partner?
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