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Ivypls posted:i had to stop watching the emil/bad crit video because the criitcs that are being focused on are so dogshit dumb that listening to their ideas is actively very annoying. i don't know how the neverknowsbest dude managed to slog through their garbage long enough to make an essay out of it i tried watching the big neverknowsbest CRPG review video but the flat gamer voice delivery combined with two “wife beating” “jokes” in the first ten minutes saved me the next hour of my life
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Jan 20, 2024 01:47
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'this one writer is insanely bad at his job' and 'bethesda is a terrible company and no good game was gonna come out of starfield's dev environment' can both be true. i have not watched any videos or read any reddit posts. peace
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Jan 20, 2024 01:50
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Nuebot posted:The same crowd that has a personal favorite animatronic from five nights at freddys despite the vast majority of those really having like, a personality
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Jan 20, 2024 01:51
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Fandomization has become such an efficient process that character designs are all you really need if you manage to tap into an audience. At least Digital Circus has, a pilot, there's something like Welcome Home which is more of a premise than a plot.
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Jan 20, 2024 02:09
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Endorph posted:'this one writer is insanely bad at his job' and 'bethesda is a terrible company and no good game was gonna come out of starfield's dev environment' can both be true. i have not watched any videos or read any reddit posts. peace The video doesn’t defend Emil’s work, its main thesis is basically “hey, don’t develop a weird and intense grudge against a complete stranger over video games.”
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Jan 20, 2024 02:10
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brb, gonna go base my entire personality and sexuality around Johnny Fiveaces
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Jan 20, 2024 02:11
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Sam, please….He had a family (cums)
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Jan 20, 2024 02:12
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Nuebot posted:Personally, it feels like they're designed to appeal to the kind of person who rushes to draw/commission a lot of internet porn of their weekly new favorite character and buy up all the merch before a new piece of media with a bunch of hot new character designs drops. The same crowd that has a personal favorite animatronic from five nights at freddys despite the vast majority of those really having like, a personality - because it's all poo poo made up by the fandom. Digital Circus in particular mines very specific areas of 90's nostalgia with its character designs at that, which really just nails down certain groups of terminally online nerds who are now obsessed with the show and are happy to spend a lot of money on art of the clown farting or whatever.
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Jan 20, 2024 02:19
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It didnt
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Jan 20, 2024 02:21
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Ivypls posted:i had to stop watching the emil/bad crit video because the criitcs that are being focused on are so dogshit dumb that listening to their ideas is actively very annoying. i don't know how the neverknowsbest dude managed to slog through their garbage long enough to make an essay out of it In regards to patrician's video, neverknowsbest only lasted 2 hours before claiming he had enough material to work with. Also jesus gently caress 8 hours to say you don't like a video game.
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Jan 20, 2024 02:22
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mycot posted:Fandomization has become such an efficient process that character designs are all you really need if you manage to tap into an audience. At least Digital Circus has, a pilot, there's something like Welcome Home which is more of a premise than a plot. I mean I'm liking it so far as this media website thing.
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Jan 20, 2024 02:34
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Nuebot posted:Digital Circus in particular mines very specific areas of 90's nostalgia with its character designs at that, which really just nails down certain groups of terminally online nerds who are now obsessed with the show and are happy to spend a lot of money on art of the clown farting or whatever. I just looked up Digital Circus and the designs remind me a lot of the fan-designs/gajinka people made for Don’t Hug Me I’m Scared. Though honestly it’s possible GISing “Digital Circus” is also showing me a bunch of tumblr fan-designs. Could just be it attracts a similar crowd. DHMIS is good mind you, I think teens just get really obsessive about stuff that’s kinda creepy or edgy. People really like Helluva Boss though so maybe I should give it a try.  Not here to yuck anyone’s yum.
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Jan 20, 2024 02:35
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euroshopper posted:90s/y2k nostalgia among zoomers irks me because it always feels surface-level, ie Windows 95 VHS Chuck E Cheese AIM. i feel like the hauntology 80s millennial nostalgia had a little more substance than this but i dunno why exactly “remember when urban outfitters sold plug-in nostalgia bait Atari microconsoles and kids all listened to the Strokes and MCR, instead of today where urban outfitters is selling plug-in nostalgia bait Atari microconsoles and kids are listening to 20th anniversary retrospectives of the strokes and MCR?”
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Jan 20, 2024 02:35
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neverknowsbest has beef with patrician because before patricians 8 hour long Oblivion video he spent like three separate streams doing the MauLer thing and making GBS threads on neverknowsbest's Oblivion video Youtube feuds ftw
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Jan 20, 2024 02:35
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Alaois posted:neverknowsbest has beef with patrician because before patricians 8 hour long Oblivion video he spent like three separate streams doing the MauLer thing and making GBS threads on neverknowsbest's Oblivion video lmao how deep does the rabbit hole go.
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Jan 20, 2024 02:40
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Endorph posted:'this one writer is insanely bad at his job' and 'bethesda is a terrible company and no good game was gonna come out of starfield's dev environment' can both be true. i have not watched any videos or read any reddit posts. peace
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Jan 20, 2024 02:40
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Kill the past, please. I wanna be free from it.
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Jan 20, 2024 02:40
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Nuebot posted:Personally, it feels like they're designed to appeal to the kind of person who rushes to draw/commission a lot of internet porn of their weekly new favorite character and buy up all the merch before a new piece of media with a bunch of hot new character designs drops. The same crowd that has a personal favorite animatronic from five nights at freddys despite the vast majority of those really having like, a personality - because it's all poo poo made up by the fandom. Digital Circus in particular mines very specific areas of 90's nostalgia with its character designs at that, which really just nails down certain groups of terminally online nerds who are now obsessed with the show and are happy to spend a lot of money on art of the clown farting or whatever. I mean i feel like helluva boss has ok developed characters. but i do feel like fandoms in general are just either shipping or pro-anti fights and weird stupid poo poo. but if you find the right discords, fandoms tend to be chill and fun. also pretty sure people want to gently caress the animatronics too. euroshopper posted:90s/y2k nostalgia among zoomers irks me because it always feels surface-level, ie Windows 95 VHS Chuck E Cheese AIM. i feel like the hauntology 80s millennial nostalgia had a little more substance than this but i dunno why exactly i am 32 and i have more nostalgia for late w and obama era media type stuff then 90s. not uncritically but its fun to go back and watch/play that poo poo and see what worked and what didnt and whats aged well and poorly.
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Jan 20, 2024 02:46
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Crocobile posted:I just looked up Digital Circus and the designs remind me a lot of the fan-designs/gajinka people made for Don’t Hug Me I’m Scared. I think teens get into that poo poo because its edgy but safe. plus they are trying to figure themselves out. I thing digital circus is a fun premise and could turn into a good show. on helluva boss. its good. I prefer second season to the first and the pilot isnt worth it. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 03:02 on Jan 20, 2024 |
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Jan 20, 2024 02:51
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dmboogie posted:i enjoyed that avellone’s two companions in POE were “woman who ambushes you with paragraphs of purple descriptive text at a time while being incapable of interacting with your party due to glamouring herself to look like a peasant woman” and “racist sexist religious fanatic who is almost mandatory but everyone in the entire world hates” My favourite part about Durance was when I finished the game and his ending slide was, "Durance never got his head fixed, became increasingly alienated from the world, and ultimately threw himself onto a bonfire and died." RIP bozo.
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Jan 20, 2024 02:53
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Annointed posted:Kill the past, please. I wanna be free from it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbt8ML7Zk5k
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Jan 20, 2024 02:57
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I don't know how anyone can't like Durance as a character. He spends the whole game speaking very very assuredly and the ultimate fate of his character is his god expected him to die in the god bomb and happily sacrificed him and doesn't give a poo poo about him and literally cannot even see his existence anymore because of the nature of the god-slaying bomb. So now he's a broken man whose entire world view is built on bullshit and all his sacrifice and pain is for nothing and the best possible ending for him is living as a freak hermit slowly building god killing bombs to get some type of revenge for it all. Like he's an rear end in a top hat, the world hates him and the one thing he leans on gets taken from him so he's just utterly humbled. He's like Kreia without the attachment and love she had for you the player, just a failed old loser whose one crutch got kicked out from underneath them and they can't overcome it.
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Jan 20, 2024 02:59
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there are aspects of durance’s character i find interesting it was just exhausting to spend the game in the company of a man who calls every woman in the world bitches and whores like to be clear this isn’t a moral judgement on writing a comically bigoted character it was just a lot for a 70 hour game yknow
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Jan 20, 2024 03:10
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trilobite terror posted:this is so core to the way gamers handle issues of corporations and capitalism Sometimes I wonder if it's some kind of coping mechanism. Everything gets boiled down to easy, singular causes/people. Because if the problem is easy and manageable the solution also is, right? We just need to remove this one guy/cause from the equation and everything will be well, and I won't have to face the fact that my life and those of other are affected by forces which are completely out of my individual ability to control. Of course it never works like that so eventually they end up having to invent whole conspiracies to explain why their easy, manageable solution can't bring about the paradise they feel they are owed.
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Jan 20, 2024 03:18
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Dapper_Swindler posted:My issue is I felt like I was dropped into the deep end of the pool regarding the world and such. But that’s more an owlcat issue than him for once. Like i have been playing rogue trader by them and if i didn’t know 40k poo poo inside and out I’d be lost.
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Jan 20, 2024 03:20
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I get not liking durance but I really liked him
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Jan 20, 2024 03:21
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Ivypls posted:i had to stop watching the emil/bad crit video because the criitcs that are being focused on are so dogshit dumb that listening to their ideas is actively very annoying. i don't know how the neverknowsbest dude managed to slog through their garbage long enough to make an essay out of it So the first Youtube video nkb discusses opens with a weird Youtuber drama bit of the creator trying to piggyback off someone doing a sick burn on someone else's opinions about Fallout. Nkb is perplexed and annoyed by this, with no clue about who these other Youtubers are, but I recognized one of them: It was Rags. The first video about how Emil Pagliarulo was the literal devil responsible for every bad game decision Bethesda has ever made was by a guy who thinks Rags is the coolest dude, which is appropriate because every other Youtuber featured in NeverKnowsBest's video was basically just Rags again.
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Jan 20, 2024 03:26
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KingKalamari posted:So the first Youtube video nkb discusses opens with a weird Youtuber drama bit of the creator trying to piggyback off someone doing a sick burn on someone else's opinions about Fallout. Nkb is perplexed and annoyed by this, with no clue about who these other Youtubers are, but I recognized one of them: It was Rags. The first video about how Emil Pagliarulo was the literal devil responsible for every bad game decision Bethesda has ever made was by a guy who thinks Rags is the coolest dude, which is appropriate because every other Youtuber featured in NeverKnowsBest's video was basically just Rags again. it always comes back to efap
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Jan 20, 2024 03:30
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https://twitter.com/ranmasaotome96/status/1748342590565445663 Saw this tweet and thought the thread would like it, so I decided to share. One of the replies linked this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2IMu7gjTSA I just watched the last section ('Doug Now', which start around the 39 minute mark), but I thought their take on Doug was interesting.
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Jan 20, 2024 03:33
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Max Wilco posted:https://twitter.com/ranmasaotome96/status/1748342590565445663 Eric Goldberg was the key animator for Genie and was the director of the “Rhapsody in Blue” sequence from Fantasia 2000. So the comparison is pretty apt (Al Hirschfeld was directly involved in the latter as well, because Goldberg approached him). Looping back to the Zim talk, one of Eric’s daughters was heavily involved in Enter the Florpus. The small world of animation!
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Jan 20, 2024 03:46
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Alaois posted:it always comes back to efap Suddenly the 8 hour Starfield video makes sense.
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Jan 20, 2024 03:48
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Clerical Terrors posted:Sometimes I wonder if it's some kind of coping mechanism. Everything gets boiled down to easy, singular causes/people. Because if the problem is easy and manageable the solution also is, right? I mean, like I said in that quoted post, I think a lot of it comes down to personal politics and worldview Somebody of a lolbertarian persuasion and/or who is amenable to anti-woke/gamergate/etc talking points isn’t going to be capable of meaningful systemic analysis or critique without going down a path that fits within that framework. The “individualist” approach works because it neatly fits into the idea of individual agency over systems, and if you do identify a systemic or institutional problem then that can be chalked up to the bad kind of collective action that threatens individual agency like “wokeism run amok” or something like that. If (X company) were a proper meritocracy then people like (Y person) wouldn’t be working there, ergo games would be good and also they wouldn’t have changed (female character)‘s outfit, ergo they need to hire fewer women, etc a good portion of the gaming industry discourse and media online is still dominated by voices who cut their teeth during gamergate and that worldview permeates any analysis they try to do trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Jan 20, 2024 |
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Jan 20, 2024 03:50
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as someone who has not played starfield i assumed most terminally online criticism of the game was just bald british men screaming about loving PRONOUNS
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Jan 20, 2024 03:50
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starfield is also insanely bad tbh
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Jan 20, 2024 04:05
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euroshopper posted:as someone who has not played starfield i assumed most terminally online criticism of the game was just bald british men screaming about loving PRONOUNS
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Jan 20, 2024 04:08
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Starfield is just what if Fallout but all the content was procedurally generated radiant content and also we added 800% more loading screens.
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Jan 20, 2024 04:12
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Sydin posted:Starfield is just what if Fallout but all the content was procedurally generated radiant content and also we added 800% more loading screens. It's very funny how even the biggest AAA devs have run into the wall of thinking their epic space OW game needs to have dozens upon dozens of explorable planets, leaving it to procgen when that isn't feasible to actually design, then realizing too late that oh, this sucks rear end.
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Jan 20, 2024 04:21
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people wanted Bethesda's Star Wars but instead got Bethesda's Heechee Saga
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Jan 20, 2024 04:36
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dmboogie posted:pillars has an interesting setting that’s introduced extremely poorly, a main quest that’s high-concept without any like compelling personal investment, and a lead villain who is a fun concept with zero charisma. this combines to a game that had a lot of individual parts i enjoyed but no lingering emotional response besides a shrug Yeah, I feel like if they quickly established Thaos as your main rival and the guy you have to deal with or you straight up die would've been more interesting. Hell, he has the best excuse for him to be a constantly recurring villain instead of a guy you see like three times: he can possess people and use them as his puppets. They could pretty easily have had him show up again and again just to gently caress with you, since you can't actually kill him. After Baldur's Gate 3, I find that their main quest works better at the start than PoE because BG3 does a much better job of funneling you to the fun stuff. There's this really great area early on in Pillars of Eternity 1, Raedric's Castle, that should've been the first act's conclusion. It has all these hidden paths into and throughout it, trapped areas you have to weave through carefully, challenging fights with his guards who have capabilities similar to your party, ways to disguise yourself to sneak into places, and a good starter villain who has gone insane and become a tyrant because of one of the main conceits of the game's plot (he can't have an heir because his kids are being born without souls). This is, somehow, completely optional; the real conclusion to Act 1 is you leveling up enough through side quests that don't really have all that much to do with your problems to avoid getting your rear end kicked by ghosts in a flat courtyard and a flat throne room, go downstairs into a floor that's about seven rooms total, squash some bugs, and then beat up an old man squatting in a ruin who has magical dementia. BG3's act one always sends you towards people that have personally antagonized you in some way or have some sort of clue as to what's up with the tadpole situation, and everything of consequence is in an amazingly laid out area with some many approaches to get through it. I get that Pillars of Eternity was made really really fast because everyone wanted to save the company before they went under, but its so rough to play.
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Motto posted:It's very funny how even the biggest AAA devs have run into the wall of thinking their epic space OW game needs to have dozens upon dozens of explorable planets, leaving it to procgen when that isn't feasible to actually design, then realizing too late that oh, this sucks rear end. Bethesda left ChatGTP-rear end responses to a bunch of negative Starfield reviews on steam that contained some absolutely irrefutable logic bombs like "you say the planets are boring because there's nothing there, but there was also nothing on the moon when the astronauts landed there. Do you think they were bored???"
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