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MakaVillian posted:That was a real weird penalty to call in a playoff game The official was also looking right at it so he saw the fact that the Packers player ran up and pushed Trent and Trent just gave it back. Just an insanely terrible call.
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Lifespan posted:The Seahawks are out The Lions-Bills Super Bowl is, much like the 2016 World Series, either going to ruin us or snap things back to the main timeline. I'm not sure which, honestly.
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harperdc posted:The Lions-Bills Super Bowl is, much like the 2016 World Series, either going to ruin us or snap things back to the main timeline. I'm not sure which, honestly. I suspect this would also apply to a Niners-Bills Super Bowl.
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DariusLikewise posted:Jared Goff is going to clown that 49ers defense. Lol
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DuhSal posted:Recency bias is wild. It’s a different team. It’s a different game and different day. Niners may be as bad or they may also be much better. We won’t know until they take the field. Lamar Jackson is the MVP because Purdy had one bad game even though he was much better through the rest of the year and Lamar wasn't even top 3 in his conference.
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Waltzing Along posted:Lamar Jackson is the MVP because Purdy had one bad game even though he was much better through the rest of the year and Lamar wasn't even top 3 in his conference. Lol Purdy is great but he had at least 3-4 bad games, mostly around his concussion.
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Gully Foyle posted:Lol Purdy is great but he had at least 3-4 bad games, mostly around his concussion. There are 17 games in the season. And over the 17 games Purdy was the best QB in the league. The statistics back this up, both traditional and analytical. My point was that until the one actual bad game against Baltimore, he was the MVP favorite. The recency bias in the NFL is kind of insane now. It wasn't this bad 10 years ago. But now it's week to week.
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Gully Foyle posted:Lol Purdy is great but he had at least 3-4 bad games, mostly around his concussion. Truth. Lamar legitimately deserves the MVP, if it's a QB award that can't go to CMC or Trent. Waltzing Along posted:There are 17 games in the season. And over the 17 games Purdy was the best QB in the league. The statistics back this up, both traditional and analytical. My point was that until the one actual bad game against Baltimore, he was the MVP favorite. The recency bias in the NFL is kind of insane now. It wasn't this bad 10 years ago. But now it's week to week. Purdy had a great year, and hopefully will be even better next year and win it then. Lamar simply took over. Coldforge fucked around with this message at 00:28 on Jan 22, 2024 |
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Coldforge posted:Truth. Lamar legitimately deserves the MVP, if it's a QB award that can't go to CMC or Trent. I'm all for splitting the MVP into 2 awards, one for QBs, one for all other positions.
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Coldforge posted:Truth. Lamar legitimately deserves the MVP, if it's a QB award that can't go to CMC or Trent. You can't take over, though. It's a season award. Lamar was not the best QB in the AFC, let alone the NFL this year. The stats don't lie. Your comment is just subscribing to the recency bias narrative. By that metric, Jordan Love was the MVP because he was just a tad behind Purdy the 2nd half of the year. Oh, oops, even then Purdy was still the best in the league.
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I don't really care about MVP at all.
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Papercut posted:I don't really care about MVP at all.
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Papercut posted:I don't really care about MVP at all. hell they aint givin it to me. not my business.
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Papercut posted:I don't really care about MVP at all. I'll care if they give it to one of the true MVPs: Trent or CMC.
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Papercut posted:I don't really care about MVP at all. I care about Super Bowl MVP
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Waltzing Along posted:You can't take over, though. It's a season award. Lamar was not the best QB in the AFC, let alone the NFL this year. The stats don't lie. Your comment is just subscribing to the recency bias narrative. By that metric, Jordan Love was the MVP because he was just a tad behind Purdy the 2nd half of the year. Oh, oops, even then Purdy was still the best in the league. Maybe the problem is MVP voters watch games instead of spreadsheets. Perhaps we should have a “Most Statistically Optimal QB” award for you and the other 7 people who care about QBR or whatever.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Maybe the problem is MVP voters watch games instead of spreadsheets. Perhaps we should have a “Most Statistically Optimal QB” award for you and the other 7 people who care about QBR or whatever. lol at the idea that the MVP voters watch games instead of buying into narratives.
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Waltzing Along posted:You can't take over, though. It's a season award. Lamar was not the best QB in the AFC, let alone the NFL this year. The stats don't lie. Your comment is just subscribing to the recency bias narrative. By that metric, Jordan Love was the MVP because he was just a tad behind Purdy the 2nd half of the year. Oh, oops, even then Purdy was still the best in the league. Purdy absolutely had an MVP quality season and was the best passer in the NFL for the majority of the season, and anyone who says otherwise is being deliberately obtuse. Lamar, though, was taking over entire football games by mid season, and he kept it up without faltering (and Purdy did not). Credit to him and he deserves the award, because the QB position is not just about passing. King Hong Kong posted:lol at the idea that the MVP voters watch games instead of buying into narratives. This, too. Coldforge fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Jan 22, 2024 |
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King Hong Kong posted:lol at the idea that the MVP voters watch games instead of buying into narratives. The narrative this time is that Lamar is fun as hell and does amazing poo poo that’s unique in the league and that narrative comes from watching him do sick rear end poo poo in games.
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Waltzing Along posted:You can't take over, though. It's a season award. Lamar was not the best QB in the AFC, let alone the NFL this year. The stats don't lie. Your comment is just subscribing to the recency bias narrative. By that metric, Jordan Love was the MVP because he was just a tad behind Purdy the 2nd half of the year. Oh, oops, even then Purdy was still the best in the league. You are hilariously Purdypilled, but I respect the dedication to posting. When Jimmy G was with Shanahan he generally had elite league ~production~ in key areas. Here are the seasons where Jimmy played more than 10 games; 2019, 2021, 2022.
Then Jimmy goes to LV in 2023 where, in the limited games he played, his completion percentage and y/a dropped to approximately 16th and 16th. His YAC/completion would be around 29th. Because Jimmy G loving sucks. Everyone who watched Jimmy G, with the niners and after the niners, recognized he sucks. But Shanahan and the surrounding offense created an environment where production thrives. People aren’t blown away by Purdy because we’ve already seen elite niners offensive production, even when the niners had a bad QB and no CMC. Now it is without question that Brock is a substantively better quarterback than Jimmy G. The fact that Brock has a decent appetite for, and decent success with, throwing deep alone makes him better than Jimmy G. But that doesn’t mean Brock is the most valuable player in the league. I’m not even a Purdy hater, I’m a Shanahan, Deebo, Trent Williams, Kittle, and CMC appreciator. It is weird as heck that niners fans ITT are diminishing the extraordinary coaching and surrounding offensive talent. P.S. CMC is really good and should have been MVP of our hearts. Lamar is absolutely MVP of the league.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:The narrative this time is that Lamar is fun as hell and does amazing poo poo that’s unique in the league and that narrative comes from watching him do sick rear end poo poo in games. I’m not against narratives at all but the defense “they watch games” is almost always meant to suggest some sort of expertise in and time spent doing evaluation, not doing something that literally anyone who follows sports can do.
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Coldforge posted:Lamar, though, was taking over entire football games by mid season, and he kept it up without faltering (and Purdy did not). Credit to him and he deserves the award, because the QB position is not just about passing.
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Coldforge posted:Purdy had a great year, and hopefully will be even better next year What crime did the fair citizens of Seattle commit upon thee, that thyself would be so wroth as to wish this calamity upon them!?
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Waltzing Along posted:I care about Super Bowl MVP you'll never guess who the betting favorite to win that one is 
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I continue to be impressed by how much garbage you can create when you conflate information to support your ideas. Not that I’m not guilty of that too, at times, but you are a master.
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I like to hear all of y'all's football opinions, NFCW thread solidarity
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King Hong Kong posted:I’m not against narratives at all but the defense “they watch games” is almost always meant to suggest some sort of expertise in and time spent doing evaluation, not doing something that literally anyone who follows sports can do. I’m just suggesting that actually watching games, not in any deep or analytical fashion, but just sitting down and watching the games and enjoying the play instead of getting consumed with EPA and QBR and success rate and a bunch of other things is a very good way to understand how Lamar is the runaway favorite.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:I’m just suggesting that actually watching games, not in any deep or analytical fashion, but just sitting down and watching the games and enjoying the play instead of getting consumed with EPA and QBR and success rate and a bunch of other things is a very good way to understand how Lamar is the runaway favorite. Fair enough, I thought you meant otherwise.
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Man, this Barry Bonds guy sucks. All he does is walk constantly. He goes games at a time without even hitting the ball. He isn't valuable at all.
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Waltzing Along posted:There are 17 games in the season. And over the 17 games Purdy was the best QB in the league. The statistics back this up, both traditional and analytical. My point was that until the one actual bad game against Baltimore, he was the MVP favorite. The recency bias in the NFL is kind of insane now. It wasn't this bad 10 years ago. But now it's week to week. The recency bias has absolutely always been this bad. Go back and read literally any past thread in this forum and you’ll see dramatic, insane overreactions to week by week variance every year. The coaching carousel thread is basically “histrionic overreactions to recent games: the thread” and always has been
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