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Wendigee
Jul 19, 2004

Suspekt Device posted:

John Hawkes is really looking like poo poo in the first episode. Is that a character choice or is he like, on the verge of death IRL?

Guessing that's the junior male apf's dad? Not familiar with him but he does look pretty rough.

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BAGS FLY AT NOON
Apr 6, 2011

A Soft Nylon Bag
All the haters go watch like 5 minutes of whatever the latest cop/fire procedural is on CBS or something and you’ll begging to watch the first episode of True Detective Season 4.

Anyway I’m about halfway through Season 3 and it’s real good even as a palette swap of season 1.

huh
Jan 23, 2004

Dinosaur Gum

credburn posted:

Probably the same way Season 3 was, by the pedophile ring with the jagged spiral

There is a spiral in the first episode isn't there?

edit to add that I just had a flick through the episode and I think I was wrong.

huh fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Jan 20, 2024

Dynastocles
May 29, 2009

"If you'll excuse me, my dinner time is six o'clock. Only gangsters eat at 9 o'clock, after some bootlegging and a hot game of craps."

Yes, the supernatural culty reference that was explicitly invented in-world to justify kiddie diddling in a small township in Louisiana is somehow also actually supernatural, and a worldwide phenomenon that has reached northern Alaska.

gently caress you HBOO!!!!!

credburn
Jun 22, 2016
President, Founder of the Brent Spiner Fan Club
There wasn't anything supernatural in the first season, was there? Just culty poo poo.

Dynastocles
May 29, 2009

"If you'll excuse me, my dinner time is six o'clock. Only gangsters eat at 9 o'clock, after some bootlegging and a hot game of craps."

Basically the writers of S2 and S4 (haven't seen S3 so I can't say anything about it) learned the wrong lessons from S1. They thought that if they combine worn-out detectives with sexual dysfunction and grief mumbling about life while pursuing a series of occulty murders, it will = good show.

But S1 balanced those things out with 1) humor and 2) humanity.

Rust Cohle would pontificate about the pointlessness of life and being, and squint, and smoke cigarettes -- but he also had a really interesting way of speaking. He used big words, spoke intelligently and articulately. He was also Matthew McConaghey, with all the charisma and stage presence he brings. Also, when he would blurt out these monologues, Woody Harrelson would slowly turn and stare at him and be like "What the gently caress are you talkin' about? Stop SAYING that poo poo!!"

Like Rachel McAdams and Kali Reis's characters, Marty Hart had a sexual dysfunction, but he was also charismatic and funny and had a whole life he was trying to keep together while also being a depraved sex addict. It felt real. McAdams and Reis were one-note grim determined cops, so it was boring. It just felt like actors delivering lines. Reis is also a bad actor because she's not an actor, she's a boxer.

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014
Is Jodie’s character supposed to be from Minnesota, or is the Viking hoodie a like “she is a white invader” thing or are the Vikings just popular in Alaska.

Kosmo Gallion
Sep 13, 2013
Season one was about a religious cult with ties to the government that were a bunch of paedophiles and child murderers. Rust and Marty kill four members of this cult and expose it but they don't quite have enough evidence to bring down the members who are senators etc. The highest ranking member we see, a high level priest, dies off screen - either by suicide or murdered by other cult members - when Rust breaks into his house and finds hard evidence against him.

Season three is the first time Rust and Marty are mentioned, as heroes for exposing the group, but there are some who believe that their theory of it going "all the way to the top" is made up bullshit and the cult was just a group of incestuous meth making hillbillies.

The woman interviewing Hayes has drawn up a connection between the missing children of season three and the cult of season one. Something to do with spirals being used as a way that paedophiles secretly communicate with eachother. It turns out that the children in 3 were actually sold by their mother to a rich woman who had gone mad and lost her kids? It was a lame ending and anybody who says 3 is good should have to rewatch this dumb resolution every day for a year. So it turns out that while 1 and 3 share the same universe, their plots are not linked at all.

Season four's connection to the cult is not yet known, but we have seen the spiral in the trailers which heavily implied "this time it's for real" so we'll have to wait and see.

Smugworth
Apr 18, 2003


Im really enjoying this season and some of the haters are really sounding unhinged

huh
Jan 23, 2004

Dinosaur Gum

Kosmo Gallion posted:

It was a lame ending and anybody who says 3 is good should have to rewatch this dumb resolution every day for a year.

Ahhh...that's because you think the show is about about missing kids and a couple of cops who are trying to find them.

It is really about a man who is a loner his whole life and actively pushes away everyone who loves him and can help him. The ending is perfect because he finally accepts those people. It's wonderful!

The Bramble
Mar 16, 2004

Just a few more hours until they drop the next epi, boys

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER

BAGS FLY AT NOON posted:

All the haters go watch like 5 minutes of whatever the latest cop/fire procedural is on CBS or something and you’ll begging to watch the first episode of True Detective Season 4.

Anyway I’m about halfway through Season 3 and it’s real good even as a palette swap of season 1.

New season of True Detective has worse writing that Blue Bloods or NCIS Portland, Maine. Facts.

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER
I'm so glad that Billie Eilish is finally getting some mainstream exposure. Really brave choice on the part of genius auteur Issa Lopez. That would have been annoying and not even relevant if the theme song was good and came from like, I dunno, a native woman or something.

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntg4az1AsdM

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
I always mix up seasons of Fargo and True Detective and now they aired close to each other and it isn't helping.

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER
I'm going to hate watch the whole season and talk poo poo for 7 more weeks. I apologize in advance.

Wendigee
Jul 19, 2004

kntfkr posted:

I'm so glad that Billie Eilish is finally getting some mainstream exposure. Really brave choice on the part of genius auteur Issa Lopez. That would have been annoying and not even relevant if the theme song was good and came from like, I dunno, a native woman or something.

lmao I was also wondering why the gently caress they chose that song

Saalkin
Jun 29, 2008

kntfkr posted:

I'm going to hate watch the whole season and talk poo poo for 7 more weeks. I apologize in advance.

hell yeah brother

Wendigee
Jul 19, 2004

kntfkr posted:

I'm going to hate watch the whole season and talk poo poo for 7 more weeks. I apologize in advance.

Giving it a chance but the characters are no way near as interesting so far as season 1. Jodie is really good at scowling in random directions but she's no McConaughey. She's not the best at monologue.

Pimpcasso
Mar 13, 2002

VOLS BITCH
why did the police chief have to have the one cop steal files from his dad cop and not just say im the boss give me the drat files?

The Bramble
Mar 16, 2004

Because the patriarchy you absolute buffoon!

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014

kntfkr posted:

I'm so glad that Billie Eilish is finally getting some mainstream exposure. Really brave choice on the part of genius auteur Issa Lopez. That would have been annoying and not even relevant if the theme song was good and came from like, I dunno, a native woman or something.

remember the resident evil netflix show that featured a Billie Ellish song, and the main character was named Billie, and listened to Billie Ellish, and her sister like Zootopia porn.

Wendigee
Jul 19, 2004

Mordor She Wrote posted:

remember the resident evil netflix show that featured a Billie Ellish song, and the main character was named Billie, and listened to Billie Ellish, and her sister like Zootopia porn.

I do not

Smugworth
Apr 18, 2003


kntfkr posted:

New season of True Detective has worse writing that Blue Bloods or NCIS Portland, Maine. Facts.

My wife liked Blue Bloods

credburn
Jun 22, 2016
President, Founder of the Brent Spiner Fan Club
I found all True Detective theme songs to be boring and I skip the intro just because the songs are so forgetful.

BAGS FLY AT NOON
Apr 6, 2011

A Soft Nylon Bag

kntfkr posted:

I'm so glad that Billie Eilish is finally getting some mainstream exposure. Really brave choice on the part of genius auteur Issa Lopez. That would have been annoying and not even relevant if the theme song was good and came from like, I dunno, a native woman or something.

Yeah it’s not even like a deep cut or anything, that song’s been used probably a hundred times. It’s just lazy, like House of the Dragon re-using the original GoT theme.

BAGS FLY AT NOON
Apr 6, 2011

A Soft Nylon Bag
Anyway I’m gonna give it a few eps but Nic Pizzapasta isn’t even involved beyond “executive producer” which I think says a lot.

Haptical Sales Slut
Mar 15, 2010

Age 18 to 49

BAGS FLY AT NOON posted:

Yeah it’s not even like a deep cut or anything, that song’s been used probably a hundred times. It’s just lazy, like House of the Dragon re-using the original GoT theme.

Way worse. At least GoT fans could see that as paying homage to the main show. Throwing a random pop song onto TD4 intro just smells of “attract millennials at any cost’ desperation.

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER

Smugworth posted:

My wife liked Blue Bloods

is ur wife my mom?

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER

credburn posted:

I found all True Detective theme songs to be boring and I skip the intro just because the songs are so forgetful.

far from any road by the handsome family was good.

Smugworth
Apr 18, 2003


kntfkr posted:

far from any road by the handsome family was good.

I heard they originally wanted Ice Spice covering that song for this season's theme but Discovery wouldn't approve the budget

LaserPrinter69
Sep 6, 2022

"I did a perfect print job, grown men were coming up to me and saying with tears in their eyes, 'Sir, it was a perfect print job.' What they're trying to do to your favorite printer (ME!) is a disgrace."
FYI spoiler alert, episode 2 features a graphic sex scene with Jodie foster that makes game of thrones look like sesame street

covidstomper58
Nov 8, 2020

LaserPrinter69 posted:

FYI spoiler alert, episode 2 features a graphic sex scene with Jodie foster that makes game of thrones look like sesame street

You speak the truth.

On an unrelated topic, talking about loving while showing no nudity is about as engaging as talking about music without hearing music.

They should have called it True Detective: Creampie Country

Haptical Sales Slut
Mar 15, 2010

Age 18 to 49

LaserPrinter69 posted:

FYI spoiler alert, episode 2 features a graphic sex scene with Jodie foster that makes game of thrones look like sesame street

Phil Rosenthal has a deece rear end.

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

Let's talk about where you're going.
lol this season is so awful. This is spoiler poo poo but I'll be hosed to put it in tags. So the interpretive dance ghost is Rust's dad. The Tuttle clan is running the research station. Spirals! It's so loving lazy. Remember how good s1 was? Well we do too and so we're gonna stick as many references as possible.Also, every character is terrible except for the young cop and the Jason Momoa looking bartender I guess?

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER
I gotta say that I was pretty skeptical of this season but Issa Lopez has won me over with her sharp, quick dialogue and attention to detail. This has to be some of the best prop design I've ever seen on television

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kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER
JENERATE ROCK AND ROLL POSTER KISS GENE SIMMONS METAL MUSIC THAILAND ALASKA THANK YOU

JENERATE SCRIPT FOR EPISODE 2 OF MY SEASON OF TRUE DETECTIVE THNAK YOU

red19fire
May 26, 2010

Did Jodie Foster just happen to walk in at the exact same moment the parade scene ran again on the Ferris Bueller dvd 2 days after the researchers disappeared? Or is that particular scene just on repeat on the dvd? Or were they only able to secure 15 seconds of the FBDO film rights and used it twice?

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

kntfkr posted:

New season of True Detective has worse writing that Blue Bloods or NCIS Portland, Maine. Facts.

There can’t actually be an NCIS Portland Maine

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Nigmaetcetera
Nov 17, 2004

borkborkborkmorkmorkmork-gabbalooins
I think it was looping for stupid supernatural reasons.

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