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kri kri
Jul 18, 2007

teagone posted:

I like looking at all the metrics/neat graphs that tautulli provides :shrug:

And had it installed a while ago but I just checked and it’s not in my docker list, oh well.

I am sharing with 3 other households.

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Warbird
May 23, 2012

America's Favorite Dumbass

You’re being weirder than usual thread.

El Mero Mero
Oct 13, 2001

deong posted:

What kind of user numbers do y'all have?
I have 28 friends/family with access, but like 8 who access it every month.
I'm using the Plex proxy and have everything else related behind tail scale.

I'm pretty open with sharing mine around. I've got ~55 users with about 20 who used it last month. Most I've ever seen was 4 concurrent streams though...which made me a bit nervous because I'm running my box on a synology 918+ and I think it would choke with 1-2 more concurrent users if someone was transcoding.

Oysters Autobio
Mar 13, 2017
Looking to buy a dedicated PC as a media server, but I'm a bit lazy so I would preferably want to find a used sff pre-build (like an optiplex or hp elitedesk).

I've been using the Plex FAQ rule of thumb for determining CPU specs at passmark benchmark score of 2000 * number of devices. I'm looking at supporting 3-5 devices but with room to grow. I'm currently looking at a Optiplex 5070 Micro PC i5-9600T 16GB DDR4 256GB m2 SSD listed for $330 CAD / $245 USD (OBO). Its the right form-factor, and according to cpubenchmark the i5-9600T is 9,573, so theoretically could support 4-5 devices.

My understanding is that FAQ rule of thumb is directed at determining support for maximum concurrent transcoding, not overall useage correct? While my "regular" usecase shouldn't require transcoding (supporting 3 separate 1080p televisions streaming at the same time) it is possible that at any time as many as 4 smartphones might be streaming which would require transcoding.

So my questions are:

- Do I understand transcoding correctly here?
- How do I look up other important specs related to codec support and things like that? I understand different CPUs will support different file types and transcoding, but I don't know how to look that up.
- Given my situation (initial support for 3 streaming 1080p TVs and 3-4 smartphones concurrently used), is the CPU I'm looking at in that used prebuild sufficient to both support but also have a decent buffer for either supporting more devices and/or peak useage?
- Given the already fairly heavy discount of these business prebuilds, how much would I really save if I went for building out my own PC with comparable specs? I don't particularly enjoy hardware / building PCs, so I'm willing to spend a little bit more for a prebuild, but not at the cost of substantial savings like I got from when I built my own gaming PC.

toplitzin
Jun 13, 2003


I've got a funky network/routing issue I'm not sure how to get past.

As noted in a much earlier post, I'm behind CG-NAT and can't just pop the port open.

I've got a VPN tunnel out, and Plex works all day at plex.url.mine behind the reverse proxy and on LAN.

However, Plex app based users (is parents) can't get/stay connected and from the server interface view it will flap.

I've published my URL via the config, but still no joy for external app users.

Corb3t
Jun 7, 2003

I have Tautulli/Varys widgets on my iPhone's homescreen, can easily see concurrent streams, history of playback, and recently added media at a glance, along with my Trakt upcoming watchlist all within a widget stack. It's great.

Yes, I'm that Plex admin who creepily asks his friends, "How did you like watching the Good Dinosaur for the 300th time? Maybe I should check it out?".

Corb3t fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Jan 22, 2024

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

EVIL Gibson posted:

You are accurate but suggesting a person is "stalking" could be better worded to not come off as he is doing more than looking at logs.

It was worded exactly how I intended and you picked up on that subtext as designed, so congrats to all!

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Corb3t posted:

Yes, I'm that Plex admin who creepily asks his friends, "How did you like watching the Good Dinosaur for the 300th time? Maybe I should check it out?".

There's nothing creepy about it at all, unless you're sharing porn or something. It's fun to talk about movies and shows.

phosdex
Dec 16, 2005

I'm the only person that uses my server, have a friend on it but he never uses it. I fall asleep all the time watching new episodes and then the autoplay just keeps playing for awhile. So sometimes I use Tautulli to try and figure out when I fell asleep and what episodes I did actually watch. I'm stalking myself.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
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Does anyone subscribe to the VIP level for trakt.tv, and do they find its worthwhile? Is the Plex linking pretty seamless (I used to use the old plugin that is dead now, or at least needs a bunch of messing around to get it working again). For $20 I’d probably just take a stab, but at $30 it feels worth asking about first.

phosdex
Dec 16, 2005

EL BROMANCE posted:

Does anyone subscribe to the VIP level for trakt.tv, and do they find its worthwhile? Is the Plex linking pretty seamless (I used to use the old plugin that is dead now, or at least needs a bunch of messing around to get it working again). For $20 I’d probably just take a stab, but at $30 it feels worth asking about first.

This plugin works for syncing: https://github.com/Taxel/PlexTraktSync

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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Ah I forgot that existed, that definitely reduces the value of VIP if it works well.

El Mero Mero
Oct 13, 2001

phosdex posted:

I'm the only person that uses my server, have a friend on it but he never uses it. I fall asleep all the time watching new episodes and then the autoplay just keeps playing for awhile. So sometimes I use Tautulli to try and figure out when I fell asleep and what episodes I did actually watch. I'm stalking myself.

I used to do that, but then I realized that "mark as watched" in plex gets logged as a played item in Tautulli - so I've destroyed most of my own statistics by doing library management stuff (deleting/redownloading something and then marking it as watched or downloading something I watched a long time ago and marking it as watched)

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
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I hate that too, before Plex kept a permanent record of things that were watched I watched a ton of stuff that it now thinks I haven’t due to replacing the files. So if I marked all of Seinfeld as watched or something, it completely screws up the stats. Dunno why it can’t exclude anything you manually mark.

EVIL Gibson
Mar 23, 2001

Internet of Things is just someone else's computer that people can't help attaching cameras and door locks to!
:vapes:
Switchblade Switcharoo

phosdex posted:

I'm the only person that uses my server, have a friend on it but he never uses it. I fall asleep all the time watching new episodes and then the autoplay just keeps playing for awhile. So sometimes I use Tautulli to try and figure out when I fell asleep and what episodes I did actually watch. I'm stalking myself.

You can turn off auto play , right? I turn it off permanently because I don't want to come back to the middle and have no clue what the plot is.


I have about 6+ people on my machine plus all the Plex users with their own servers. Really one niece, and one Plex user make up the majority of the traffic that is not me.

My niece recently discovered anime starting with Demon Slayer and she was all excited. She found her uncle had a library started in 1998 and somehow got new shows like the day of broadcast without a streaming service.

:kiddo: : How did you get the season 2 movie which was shown only 3 days ago?
:yarr: : Don't you mind how, kiddo ;)


I recently found out she watches the episodes on her PC and broadcasts it to her friends on discord. Imagine being able to stream that much bitrate back in late 90s was a dream.

phosdex
Dec 16, 2005

Normally I do want autoplay on though, I often just shuffle play shows to have background noise. When I used xbmc you could long press the play button and you'd get a popup option to play w/autoplay off, wish Plex had this.

phosdex fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Jan 23, 2024

cruft
Oct 25, 2007

EVIL Gibson posted:

I recently found out she watches the episodes on her PC and broadcasts it to her friends on discord.

My first connected computer had a 300 baud acoustic coupler. 0.00024 Mbps.

Reading this irritated me.

prom candy
Dec 16, 2005

Only I may dance

EVIL Gibson posted:

I recently found out she watches the episodes on her PC and broadcasts it to her friends on discord. Imagine being able to stream that much bitrate back in late 90s was a dream.

I downloaded Command and Conquer off a BBS one diskette at a time. Every day I would get home from school, download the next diskette, and then wait til the next day to get the next one because the BBS had a daily time limit or download limit or something. And I was fine with this.

Aware
Nov 18, 2003
Isn't progress great?

Flowing Thot
Apr 1, 2023

:murder:
Watching subbed 240i real player format copies of DBZ I got off Kazaa blew my mind as a teenager as I saw stuff that wouldn’t air on Toonami for a long time and had no censorship.

They were the worst quality you could imagine.

Nettle Soup
Jan 30, 2010

Oh, and Jones was there too.

Man I think I still have a cd somewhere with the whole of flame of recca in 50mb rm files. I don't remember it being so bad, but you know.

Wayne Knight
May 11, 2006

I remember downloading all of the Zelda cartoon in realmedia format and using a program called TINRA (this is not real anymore) to convert it to mpg. Then I burned it onto video cds.

ScooterMcTiny
Apr 7, 2004

I fondly remember downloading Dreamcast games one rar at a time using mIRC, transferring them to Zip disks because for some reason my other desktop was the one with a CD burner. Would take hours and hours just to get NFL 2K to play. Ah those were the days.

deong
Jun 13, 2001

I'll see you in heck!
I had a w4r3z friend in 2000 that had a server full of any software imaginable. He was running dual 56k modems, each dedicated to rx / tx. It was amazing.

I miss the days when I was cool l33t h4x0r by getting irc lustservs etc, pre torrent days.
Now you can just Google and get something.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
Got my first Warez CD handed to me in 1996 and was told of usenet. I started my IT career working for very small ISPs so I had access to a T1 line, my own NNTP server, and a CD burner. I discovered so, so much new music that way.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


deong posted:

irc lustservs

Go on…

Takes No Damage
Nov 20, 2004

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.


Grimey Drawer

Oysters Autobio posted:

Looking to buy a dedicated PC as a media server, but I'm a bit lazy so I would preferably want to find a used sff pre-build (like an optiplex or hp elitedesk).

One thing to keep in mind if you're planning for lots of transcoding is RAM capacity, if you would also want to use a ramdisk. A ramdisk is when you mount a portion of your RAM as if it were a regular hard drive, which would be pretty useless for regular file storage but for temporary stuff like transcode files it's ideal. RAM is much faster than spinning hard drives and transcoding to it saves a ton of read/writes on your storage disks.

From what I've read you should expect to use around the filesize of each movie you transcode i.e. a 10GB movie requires another 10GB of space to transcode, so depending on the number of simultaneous transcodes you expect to see you could benefit from more than 16GB.

Flowing Thot posted:

Watching subbed 240i real player format copies of DBZ I got off Kazaa blew my mind as a teenager as I saw stuff that wouldn’t air on Toonami for a long time and had no censorship.

They were the worst quality you could imagine.

Literally did this in my college dorm in '99 or 2000 or so. Seeing blood in the Freeza fight was wild :goku:

Hughlander
May 11, 2005

Does any of the 3rd party plugins talk to plex view history enough to let me do a search of title or description of something I've watched?

Context: I import a bunch of gamedev youtube channels into plex and then watch them at 3x speed while doing cardio. One I watched this week I didn't make a note of like I normally do and want to add it to a note now but am having trouble finding it, but I know what it'd be from something in the description.

So I need a full text search of my personal 7 day history from a specific library. I'm handy enough with plexapi that I can write a one off but if tautulli or overseer or something else would do it, I'd rather learn to use that.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Hughlander posted:

Does any of the 3rd party plugins talk to plex view history enough to let me do a search of title or description of something I've watched?

Context: I import a bunch of gamedev youtube channels into plex and then watch them at 3x speed while doing cardio. One I watched this week I didn't make a note of like I normally do and want to add it to a note now but am having trouble finding it, but I know what it'd be from something in the description.

So I need a full text search of my personal 7 day history from a specific library. I'm handy enough with plexapi that I can write a one off but if tautulli or overseer or something else would do it, I'd rather learn to use that.

Tautulli has you covered. IDK if its full text but the watch history goes way back on mine.

deong
Jun 13, 2001

I'll see you in heck!

Matt Zerella posted:

Tautulli has you covered. IDK if its full text but the watch history goes way back on mine.

I recently installed tautulli and it didn't import the past history. So I have good logs from when it started up til now.
Know if there was option to pull back viewing logs?

tonic
Jan 4, 2003

Is there a small form factor AIO PC that’s recommended for running a Plex server with transcoding? Looking for something <$500…

Hughlander
May 11, 2005

deong posted:

I recently installed tautulli and it didn't import the past history. So I have good logs from when it started up til now.
Know if there was option to pull back viewing logs?

Yep. Same. Only apparently I never updated it when I moved my plex from LXC to docker so it missed the last 9 months. It does import from two other deprecated things but not sure if THOSE will fill in history.

Moey
Oct 22, 2010

I LIKE TO MOVE IT

tonic posted:

Is there a small form factor AIO PC that’s recommended for running a Plex server with transcoding? Looking for something <$500…

I snagged a used USFF HP Pro desk for like $120 shipped via eBay like a year ago. i3-9100T CPU. Quick Sync is pretty amazing.



You could also grab any flavor of the mini PCs on Amazon with an Intel N100 CPU, that's seems to be the new hotness.

Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored



Likewise, I nabbed a refurbed Dell Wyse 5070 (j5005) that I dumped a bunch of ram and storage into for my tuner and DVR. Echoing that Quick Sync is very handy and makes a little fanless setup viable.

Aware
Nov 18, 2003
Tautulli doesn't add history from before it's installed.

Moey
Oct 22, 2010

I LIKE TO MOVE IT

Agile Vector posted:

Likewise, I nabbed a refurbed Dell Wyse 5070 (j5005) that I dumped a bunch of ram and storage into for my tuner and DVR. Echoing that Quick Sync is very handy and makes a little fanless setup viable.

Ha, I never even thought of old thin clients for this use case. Well done.

Scruff McGruff
Feb 13, 2007

Jesus, kid, you're almost a detective. All you need now is a gun, a gut, and three ex-wives.
My Plex server originally started life as an USFF Dell Optiplex and I still think those are one of the best options for getting plex up and running for cheap.

withoutclass
Nov 6, 2007

Resist the siren call of rhinocerosness

College Slice

tonic posted:

Is there a small form factor AIO PC that’s recommended for running a Plex server with transcoding? Looking for something <$500…

Pick up an n100 based mini PC. Even supports AV1 I believe.

Edit:

This Beelink is on sale for $180 which is a great deal. I wish I had this over my n5105 version.

tonic
Jan 4, 2003

withoutclass posted:

Pick up an n100 based mini PC. Even supports AV1 I believe.

Edit:

This Beelink is on sale for $180 which is a great deal. I wish I had this over my n5105 version.

Awesome. Grabbing one of these, thanks.

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Well Played Mauer
Jun 1, 2003

We'll always have Cabo
I picked up an ATSC 1.0 capture card on a lark and I’m amazed by how Plex detects and skips commercials.

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