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Ithle01
May 28, 2013

Nephthys posted:

One of the victims being alive was a great WTF moment, yeah. It's so unexpected. I think the only way it makes sense is if he was infected with the micro-organism that prevents cellular decay, which would make him resistant to the frostbite enough to survive maybe? Clark starts rounding everyone up to go outside, so he injects himself with them as a last-ditch plan or maybe they were all infected and it was some sort of test to see which sample allowed them to survive. The clothes being neatly set out proves this was very deliberate and that someone had a lot of time to set the scene. Clark is definitely the prime suspect right now.

I think the star-shaped wounds on Anna are most likely from the ice screws that they were using to extract the micro-organisms. Something specialised like that makes the most sense. It could be she was infected to test the micro-organisms effects. The tongue having weird cellular damage suggests something was being done to it as well.


Interesting idea on the ice screws. The interrogation of the surviving not-Clark scientist is next week I think, from the trailer at the end. We'll see where that goes with regards to how he survived.

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mystes
May 31, 2006

Nephthys posted:

The tongue having weird cellular damage suggests something was being done to it as well.
I mean I think realistically it having been frozen for a long time and then thawed would adequately explain that, but in terms of writing, the fact that they immediately pointed that out might mean that's not actually going to be the reason

and the microorganism theory does make a lot of sense in other ways.

mistermojo
Jul 3, 2004

no one seems to care that much about the corpse pile, including the directors and editors. this is certainly no Hannibal

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

🤌🤌🤌
I think the seasons fine so far. It's got fine acting and an interesting plot that seems about as much of a blend of grounded reality and the occult as S1. I don't really care about the tie ins too much. I can see people not liking the two cop leads since being a complete rear end in a top hat isn't an endearing quality in any character.

The only glaring problem I see so far is the sound mixing. Ferris Buehler blasting throughout the opening scene was pretty annoying, as was the drunk women screaming and the closing song over Ep1. Just way too loud while characters are talking. I'm not sure of that's intent or not but drat if it's not causing me to drop the volume sometimes.

The_Rob
Feb 1, 2007

Blah blah blah blah!!
People keep saying the mystery blends reality but I’d love to know where there’s ever been a crime of a bunch of scientists frozen together with their tongues cut out.

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

🤌🤌🤌
I meant more that S1 wasn't that grounded in reality either which makes it okay that this season isn't. I don't know of many detectives that deal with a serial killer that's part of a cult that they have to chase through his evil den before fighting the guy while he's quoting the King in Yellow.

Golden Bee
Dec 24, 2009

I came here to chew bubblegum and quote 'They Live', and I'm... at an impasse.
I think this show has a good balance of revealing the case, talking about characters sad back stories, and tough cop women who are really mean to those around them.

The downside of it all being at night as you get no sense of people are working overtime. My perspective is everyone’s working every single hour they can so they can crack this thing before Christmas.

Despera
Jun 6, 2011

mistermojo posted:

no one seems to care that much about the corpse pile, including the directors and editors. this is certainly no Hannibal

i like how the russica scammed dad just walks up and hits awesome chin cop and acts like the corpsical isnt even there

the stepdaughter didnt seem fazed by it in the least either

hannibal made art from his corpses though, these are just frozen dead dudes

Im enjoying the season. You cant take this show too seriously. Its always had camp and self awareness.

Maybe im too easy to please. Hook me up with oscar winners playing rear end in a top hat cops solving spooky mysteries and hbo production values every time.

Despera fucked around with this message at 08:24 on Jan 23, 2024

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Despera posted:

Im enjoying the season. You cant take this show too seriously. Its always had camp and self awareness.

Yeah. The forever unimpeachable first season’s big reveal had the villain say “my family’s been here a loooooong time” to nobody in particular in a ridiculous drawl. He might as well have done a maniacal laugh.

Despera
Jun 6, 2011

Henchman of Santa posted:

Yeah. The forever unimpeachable first season’s big reveal had the villain say “my family’s been here a loooooong time” to nobody in particular in a ridiculous drawl. He might as well have done a maniacal laugh.

"I just want you to stop saying odd poo poo" to Rust Cohles character was a bit on the nose

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


I actually really like the mystery so far - it's very eerie and the whole idea that Ennis is just so far up north that it's where the world will start to unravel is a great concept. Frankly I hope they just go supernatural with it, because I don't want them to try and contort themselves out of the (flesh) pretzel that this has already set up.

I don't like the characters at all, though. They're all acting like horrible shitheads for absolutely no reason other than to just have endless forced character friction. Just Be Normal, people.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

I guess the Doctor meant it back in 2005 when he said he "dances". I was NOT expecting that when I watched the episode! :stare:

wolfs
Jul 17, 2001

posted by squid gang

I’m weirded out by the idea that Navarro and her sister moved from Nevada or whatever to nowhereville Alaska for good benefits when by all accounts the only benefit to living in Ennis is a polluted water table to make death come sooner???

Foster’s Danvers being inexplicably both sort of racist and having an Alaskan Native step(?) daughter is fun

The eye motif in Clark’s notes, his trailer, the little boy in the first episode’s drawing, and Danvers’ dead son saying something about a one eyed bear — that’s fun too! Eyes in the dark! Hit me with it!!

You don’t need this heaped on spiral / Tuttle stuff so much. It bothers me how closely they are reproducing the spiral from tattoo to travel trailer across time, space, and scale. Style variations between Louisiana and Alaska would make sense.

Nelson Mandingo
Mar 27, 2005




Man that Jodie Foster allusion with the Beatles is absolutely brutal. I was laughing in utter shock.

Mark David Chapman killed John Lennon in an attempt to impress her.

Nelson Mandingo
Mar 27, 2005




wolfs posted:

I’m weirded out by the idea that Navarro and her sister moved from Nevada or whatever to nowhereville Alaska for good benefits when by all accounts the only benefit to living in Ennis is a polluted water table to make death come sooner???

The US government straight up pays folks to live in Alaska. There is a lot of money out there with the right job. Being a cop in the arctic circle 150 miles from the north pole pays pretty well compared to other small towns.

https://www.indeed.com/career/police-officer/salaries/Barrow--AK 130k for 10 years experience is definitely some good benefits.

Nelson Mandingo fucked around with this message at 09:56 on Jan 23, 2024

CatstropheWaitress
Nov 26, 2017

Nelson Mandingo posted:

Mark David Chapman killed John Lennon in an attempt to impress her.

I think you're thinking of John Hinckley Jr.?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpc2pU1Ms0s

Nelson Mandingo
Mar 27, 2005




You're absolutely right. I thought it was both weirdos.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

Did they do oners in s2 and s3 like they did the biker shootout in s1?

Anti-Hero
Feb 26, 2004

Nelson Mandingo posted:

The US government straight up pays folks to live in Alaska. There is a lot of money out there with the right job. Being a cop in the arctic circle 150 miles from the north pole pays pretty well compared to other small towns.

https://www.indeed.com/career/police-officer/salaries/Barrow--AK 130k for 10 years experience is definitely some good benefits.

I live in Alaska. It’s very expensive here. 130k in barrow is like 60k in a mid west city.

DaveKap
Feb 5, 2006

Pickle: Inspected.



ruddiger posted:

Did they do oners in s2 and s3 like they did the biker shootout in s1?
No and it's a loving shame. The director was Cary Fukunaga, he did season 1 and never returned. That oner made me love the season and the absense of that amazing cinematography in subsequent seasons has lessened all my interest in the series. At this point I'm watching Night Country solely because it's only 6 episodes and they're focusing on the supernatural. I get the feeling I'm going to come out of it with a 7/10 review, though.

Just gonna add here that The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel is chock-fuckin-full of oners and that's a comedy-drama show with 8-10 episode seasons. How the heck we can't get this good poo poo in our 8-episode (now 6) HBO show is beyond me.
Edit: It's not beyond me. The budget for Night Country is 60 million and they built an entire village.

DaveKap fucked around with this message at 12:13 on Jan 23, 2024

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

The_Rob posted:

People keep saying the mystery blends reality but I’d love to know where there’s ever been a crime of a bunch of scientists frozen together with their tongues cut out.

I mean, they weren’t scientists and it wasn’t (probably) a crime but a lot of the details here are essentially taken from the actual Dyatlov Pass deaths.

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

There's going to be a lifetime of youtube essays of how this season went so wrong.

Season one and two are so tremendously good, in their own ways.

I also can't help but laugh that this season is full of continuity and set dressing errors when it's entire brand is built on being good in the smallest details. Unless all the errors are on purpose... Like it's a big brain play... Like season two is good actually... Arghhh nooooo

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"
I don't think oners are that interesting, now that like, every action filmmaker does them to try to pop a cinematic wheelie.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

DaveKap posted:

No and it's a loving shame. The director was Cary Fukunaga, he did season 1 and never returned. ]

With good reason and good riddance.

Pizzaman wrote a thinkly veiled version of the character into the second season. At the time I thought it was poor taste, like a lot of the rest of the season, but not so much anymore.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Open Source Idiom posted:

With good reason and good riddance.

Pizzaman wrote a thinkly veiled version of the character into the second season. At the time I thought it was poor taste, like a lot of the rest of the season, but not so much anymore.

Who? The film director? The pervert psychiatrist?

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

I AM GRANDO posted:

Who? The film director? The pervert psychiatrist?

The pervert director.

TheBizzness
Oct 5, 2004

Reign on me.
The best thing about this season is you all are posting about it good and bad and I get to discuss it with you all.

Danvers making boy wonder cop stay at the rink and watch the bodies thaw instead of being home with his family hit me in a “I’m just preparing you for what this job actually is” kind of way. And then she goes home to set up for Christmas for her step daughter (presumably Danvers doesn’t give a F about Christmas) who is so overjoyed she sneaks out the window.

This season is definitely a “everyone sucks here” scenario while still making me sad for most of them.

fullroundaction
Apr 20, 2007

Drink beer every day

TheBizzness posted:

This season is definitely a “everyone sucks here” scenario while still making me sad for most of them.

My wife convinced me to watch season 1 of Why Women Kill and it was the best example I've ever seen of "everyone sucks here" but I still like the characters / give a poo poo about their outcomes. Neat show, lots of fun.

Lucy Liu is incredible. Scratched my Jennifer Coolidge White Lotus itch.

th3t00t
Aug 14, 2007

GOOD CLEAN FOOTBALL
I don't see how they're going to wrap this up in satisfying manner at all with only 4 episodes remaining. Very David Lynchian of them in that regard.

My expectations for the season are much lower now after seeing episode 2. It's not bad, but it's not great.

edit: The people of Ennis are messed up. Seeing the corpsicle barely seemed to affect any of them. The cops start horsing around the crime scene like right away. They all seem to be treating it like it's a joke.

th3t00t fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Jan 23, 2024

a new study bible!
Feb 2, 2009



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A Philadelphia Legend
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I can’t get over how they are just copying a well known historic/paranormal event without even acknowledging the parallel.

sure okay
Apr 7, 2006





I think there's probably only a 50% chance this season wraps up in a satisfying way. Like, the show has got some problems for sure. There are a lot of moving parts and the whole thing around the AI posters is rightly sketchy (and the showrunners mealy mouthed excuse just confirmed it was a low budget/low effort "we'll fix it in post" boo boo but didn't want to say it).

But about 90% of the internet is basically saying there's no possible chance this will end up a satisfying whodunnit, and that overconfidence in negativity just makes me want to like it more.

So... hell yeah AI posters, I guess. I still think those ice nerds were necromancers. They had a dead test subject they were pumping altered ice microbes into in an effort to bring them back.

And cure diseases I guess. I dunno my gut tells me that was secondary to more than a few of them.

joepinetree
Apr 5, 2012
I think its fine so far, but yeah, it does feel like a 7/10 season.

Acting ranges from fine to very good. The forced references to s1 take me right out of the mood they are going for.

But for me, the biggest reason its fine but not great is that the story feels like it is going along some very well traveled paths.

Oh, a cop fighting with her superior over jurisdiction?

Oh, a protagonist who is an rear end in a top hat to everyone because of some alluded to but unexplored trauma?

Oh, artic exploration that might have come across some ancient life form?

Oh, a cop who is obsessed with an old case that was never solved?

Oh, a husband who is having a hard time balancing work and family life?


There's very little so far to indicate something truly new. Who knows, maybe episode 3 will be very different, but so far it feels like an extended, good but forgettable episode of the x files.

mystes
May 31, 2006

joepinetree posted:

I think its fine so far, but yeah, it does feel like a 7/10 season.

Acting ranges from fine to very good. The forced references to s1 take me right out of the mood they are going for.

But for me, the biggest reason its fine but not great is that the story feels like it is going along some very well traveled paths.

Oh, a cop fighting with her superior over jurisdiction?

Oh, a protagonist who is an rear end in a top hat to everyone because of some alluded to but unexplored trauma?

Oh, artic exploration that might have come across some ancient life form?

Oh, a cop who is obsessed with an old case that was never solved?

Oh, a husband who is having a hard time balancing work and family life?


There's very little so far to indicate something truly new. Who knows, maybe episode 3 will be very different, but so far it feels like an extended, good but forgettable episode of the x files.
It is kind of funny that the absolute wackiest possibility at the extreme end that could possibly turn out to the the explanation in the show is essentially the exact thing that Fortitude already did in extreme detail

joepinetree
Apr 5, 2012

mystes posted:

It is kind of funny that the absolute wackiest possibility at the extreme end that could possibly turn out to the the explanation in the show is essentially the exact thing that Fortitude already did in extreme detail

That's the thing, not just fortitude. It's also the exact plot of the x files episode Ice.

Von Pluring
Sep 19, 2003


Zelensky's Zealots
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So Navarro brought her depressed/mentally unwell sister to this place where there's no sunlight for a part of the year, where lots of people regularly see ghosts, and where the water supposedly is dangerous for you.

Sister of the year.

Also, show is not good. It's the second show this winter that was shot in Iceland and that I will not finish watching.

Cranappleberry
Jan 27, 2009
spongebob is cool and he cleans your teeth

Danger
Jan 4, 2004

all desire - the thirst for oil, war, religious salvation - needs to be understood according to what he calls 'the demonogrammatical decoding of the Earth's body'

Jerusalem posted:

I guess the Doctor meant it back in 2005 when he said he "dances". I was NOT expecting that when I watched the episode! :stare:

Oh, you mean Matt?

CatstropheWaitress
Nov 26, 2017

I was half expecting Danvers to be shown also using a spongebob toothbrush when they cut from that scene to one where she was also brushing her teeth.

This is night country where poo poo is dark all the time and the people LOVE spongebob.

Danger
Jan 4, 2004

all desire - the thirst for oil, war, religious salvation - needs to be understood according to what he calls 'the demonogrammatical decoding of the Earth's body'

Nelson Mandingo posted:

Man that Jodie Foster allusion with the Beatles is absolutely brutal. I was laughing in utter shock.

Mark David Chapman killed John Lennon in an attempt to impress her.

You’re thinking of John Hinkley.

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Nephthys
Mar 27, 2010

a new study bible! posted:

I can’t get over how they are just copying a well known historic/paranormal event without even acknowledging the parallel.

What exactly do you want them to do, have Danvers stare directly into the camera and go "This is just like the Dyatlov Pass incident. That's the thing we are referencing. You should google it."

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