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AMD Fanbois are back on the menu, boys!
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Paul MaudDib posted:making broadly correct predictions about trends isn’t that hard, making iconoclastic ones like adaptive sync on nvidia, apple pivoting towards gaming, etc, are harder. 
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Jan 22, 2024 13:14
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I simply choose not to watch anything from the guy whose predictions are 70% bullshit when the things he gets right are things everyone else in the tech industry predicts
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Jan 22, 2024 15:08
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gradenko_2000 posted:MLID rules because he completely understands the media landscape that people are more excited about hot goss than strict factual accuracy, and he's savvy enough to hedge all his "predictions" against things that everyone else (who is more reliable) has already leaked, or to be broad enough that he can repeatedly claim to have been correct (and in fact has done several back-slapping videos where he revisits his old claims just to be able to do specifically this!) So he is Alex Jones
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Jan 22, 2024 15:18
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Lol folks on Reddit have already gotten 4080 and 4070 ti Supers because shops have broken the street date but they can't use them because there's no driver support yet
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Jan 22, 2024 16:42
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change my name posted:Lol folks on Reddit have already gotten 4080 and 4070 ti Supers because shops have broken the street date but they can't use them because there's no driver support yet
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Jan 22, 2024 16:52
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change my name posted:Lol folks on Reddit have already gotten 4080 and 4070 ti Supers because shops have broken the street date but they can't use them because there's no driver support yet remember what they took from you 
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Jan 22, 2024 17:01
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Twibbit posted:So he is Alex Jones Nah, Alex Jones has never been right about anything, ever. He will outright lie and claim he was right, and provide heavily altered clips to suggest he was right, but he has always been wrong and will continued to be wrong. MLID at least has a 30% accuracy rating, which is vastly superior to Alex Jones.
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Jan 22, 2024 17:06
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can't you just edit the device IDs in the driver to make it work? it's the same driver for the same arch anyway, just new device IDs
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Jan 22, 2024 17:12
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change my name posted:Lol folks on Reddit have already gotten 4080 and 4070 ti Supers because shops have broken the street date but they can't use them because there's no driver support yet Yeah, some of the Zotac 4080s were briefly available on Amazon last night, with full Add to Cart and Buy Now options. repiv posted:remember what they took from you lmao, I was actually just thinking about the days when we got drivers with the cards
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Jan 22, 2024 18:01
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Acer provided a usb stick with drivers for their Arc A770 BiFrost. On that topic I’ve been using that GPU with a 5600X3D as my daily driver the last couple weeks and it’s been very stable. Warhammer Vermentide 2 crashed once but for newer stuff it’s worked as well as any other GPU I’ve owned. No performance issues or concerns which is surprising since I went into the purchase expecting headaches. I didn’t try it on “older” stuff except New Vegas and Sim City 4. NV ran great with no crashes (!) but Sim City 4 would only load to a black screen with audio, and that required task manager to shutdown. All in all it’s a capable card in its tier, especially for the $270 I paid. I should also add that the Arc Control software worked okay. The software itself was stable and made OCing and fan control a breeze, but it seems to get stuck in a loop while searching for automatic driver updates. A notification will pop up saying the request timed out, but I turned off auto updates and it went away. Updating manually resulted in no issues. Bloopsy fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Jan 22, 2024 |
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Jan 22, 2024 18:44
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Bloopsy posted:I didn’t try it on “older” stuff except New Vegas and Sim City 4. NV ran great with no crashes (!) Given the general fame and enduring popularity of the Bethesda games of that era, NV especially, I wouldn't be surprised if the driver team paid special attention to the Oblivion-era Gamebryo titles and made sure the DX9 emulation layer in the drivers played nicely with those titles.
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Jan 22, 2024 19:02
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repiv posted:remember what they took from you do you truly remember?
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Jan 22, 2024 19:16
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https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/rtx-remix-open-beta-half-life-2-rtx-trailer/ Not a bad birthday gift Nvidia
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Jan 22, 2024 19:56
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Is the ASUS Dual the best of the 4070Super choices right now? Compared to the MSI Ventus and Zotac Twin Edge counterparts? From what was said earlier, the three fan isn't really needed and the OC is mostly BS, so was just going to go with the best two fan card for reliability first and noise second. take me you ANIMAL fucked around with this message at 02:45 on Jan 23, 2024 |
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Jan 23, 2024 02:31
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take me you ANIMAL posted:Is the ASUS Dual the best of the 4070Super choices right now? Compared to the MSI Ventus and Zotac Twin Edge counterparts? The Asus Dual is without a doubt the best dual-fan card.
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Jan 23, 2024 03:37
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Ok, ordered the ASUS Dual GeForce RTX™ 4070 SUPER OC Edition 12GB GDDR6X since the regular was out of stock, but whatever, spending an extra $10 on a $600 card seems trivial.
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Jan 23, 2024 05:50
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Just finished a build with the dual ASUS 4070 Super and was having a power issue, changing the cable config around solved it though. Anyway in the course of trying to fix it I had a look at some ASUS FAQs and I'll have to start adopting their technical terms going forward 
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Jan 23, 2024 15:39
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the tl;dw of the 4070ti reviews is that it's alright, probably what it should always have been, and it's mostly the 16gb that look appealing, but 4070 and 4080 might be more interesting otherwise the msi cards also have bios issues affecting performance, which is reflected in hwub's testing. they've reviewed the ventus models, but you generally want to get the gaming x tier
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Jan 23, 2024 16:35
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kliras posted:the tl;dw of the 4070ti reviews is that it's alright, probably what it should always have been, and it's mostly the 16gb that look appealing, but 4070 and 4080 might be more interesting otherwise The Asus TUF model looks good enough that I'm not sure I'd consider any other card assuming it is actually $800 as is claimed. I wouldn't be surprised if it is the first or only model to sell out given the small performance bump. I expected a bit more given the specs, I guess the L2 cache staying the same size as the non-super is holding it back?
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Jan 23, 2024 17:22
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change my name posted:I believe the ProArt 4070 ti is the smallest version of that model they make and assume that trend will continue with the 4070 ti Super (and maybe ProArt 4080 Super but who knows, I don't have insider information) Update, I was incorrect about this, Asus has announced they're launching a ProArt 4080 Super and OC version in the next few weeks
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Jan 23, 2024 17:28
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if you’re thinking of a premium model like proart, you could also wait for msi’s expert version that they sites at ces
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Jan 23, 2024 18:02
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kliras posted:if you’re thinking of a premium model like proart, you could also wait for msi’s expert version that they sites at ces Woof, I bet that thing's going to be pricey as hell. I just pointed it out because I'm a lowly SFF case haver so I tend to keep a lookout for the smaller cards
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Jan 23, 2024 18:16
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Any sign that there's going to be a similar mid-generation refresh for the 4090 or is the AI hype and China export ban issue sucking all the air out of the consumer space for those chips?
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Jan 23, 2024 19:00
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There's a rumor of the 5090 late this year or early next year but I think the ship has sailed on a 4090 ti.
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Jan 23, 2024 19:10
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Elem7 posted:Any sign that there's going to be a similar mid-generation refresh for the 4090 or is the AI hype and China export ban issue sucking all the air out of the consumer space for those chips? There's very little room to give the 4090 any more. I think this is the final major iterations for the lines. Any other changes would probably just be lateral moves due to supply.
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Jan 23, 2024 19:10
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the limit for the chip is 144 SMs and the 4090 has 128 enabled, but in practice even the pro cards only have 142 enabled so you're not getting more than that most optimistically they could do a 4090ti thats about 11% faster, which is maybe enough to justify a new SKU to get the whales to double-dip but not really worth waiting for anyway there's been no hints that they're going to do that
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Jan 23, 2024 19:15
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kliras posted:the tl;dw of the 4070ti reviews is that it's alright, probably what it should always have been, and it's mostly the 16gb that look appealing, but 4070 and 4080 might be more interesting otherwise HUB says in their testing, the TUF gaming model was only 1% faster on average than the Ventus model that had issues, but they seem to have the slowest results for the new GPU out of any reviewer. They say it's 6% faster than the 4070 Ti at 4K for instance while TPU says its 11% and Tom's Hardware says 10% (in line with Nvidia's claim of 10%). In any case, I guess it doesn't change the overall evaluation much. It's now more like what an $800 GPU should be, even if the value improvement over the last gen on performance alone is still fairly meager.
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Jan 23, 2024 19:34
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Yeah I am a little disappointed in the Ti Super but maybe I was expecting too much.
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Jan 23, 2024 19:50
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Elem7 posted:Any sign that there's going to be a similar mid-generation refresh for the 4090 or is the AI hype and China export ban issue sucking all the air out of the consumer space for those chips? There was a "4090 Ti" or "Titan Ada" planned, and there are even some prototypes with comically large coolers floating around on ebay and the like, but it was cancelled. It seems very unlikely that it will ever see a launch. 
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Jan 23, 2024 20:05
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My likely-ignorant view on the 4080 Ti Super is that it’s less an immediate value improvement and more of a long-term improvement to the card’s longevity, given the bump from 12GB to 16GB.
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Jan 23, 2024 20:06
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Cygni posted:There was a "4090 Ti" or "Titan Ada" planned, and there are even some prototypes with comically large coolers floating around on ebay and the like, but it was cancelled. It seems very unlikely that it will ever see a launch. i hope they dust off that wacky design for the next generation though just because it's so weird the PCB is on the side of the card, parallel with the motherboard
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Jan 23, 2024 20:22
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Cygni posted:There was a "4090 Ti" or "Titan Ada" planned, and there are even some prototypes with comically large coolers floating around on ebay and the like, but it was cancelled. It seems very unlikely that it will ever see a launch. Speaking of large items, are FE cards still a thing? For the 30x0 series they were apparently a bit big (but also good)
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Jan 23, 2024 20:30
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jaete posted:Speaking of large items, are FE cards still a thing? For the 30x0 series they were apparently a bit big (but also good) Yes, except for the 4070 ti Super. And the FE cards are often the smallest versions; my 3080 FE is like, a true two-slot card which is just wild
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Jan 23, 2024 20:31
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kliras posted:the tl;dw of the 4070ti reviews is that it's alright, probably what it should always have been, and it's mostly the 16gb that look appealing, but 4070 and 4080 might be more interesting otherwise Just got home from work and had a quick look, tbh 4070 Ti Super seems pretty useless  Yes please I'd like to pay $200 over the 4070 Super for 12fps. 16gb is nice but uhhh
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Jan 23, 2024 20:59
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mobby_6kl posted:Just got home from work and had a quick look, tbh 4070 Ti Super seems pretty useless Not that it makes a huge difference, but the HUB review used a card with a faulty bios, and their performance numbers are a few percent behind every other review's. The 4070 Ti Super is about 20% faster than the 4070 Super and has 33% more VRAM for 33% more money:  Cards losing some value as you go up the product stack is normal, and i dunno, the 4070 Ti Super seems fine. Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Jan 23, 2024 |
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Jan 23, 2024 21:06
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Not that it makes a huge difference, but the HUB review used a card with a faulty bios, and their performance numbers are a few percent behind every other review's. The 4070 Ti Super is about 20% faster than the 4070 Super and has 25% more VRAM for 33% more money: E: wait never mind, it could be down to 1440p vs 4k? 11% faster for $200 is trash imo. mobby_6kl fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Jan 23, 2024 |
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Jan 23, 2024 21:17
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In general it appears the 4070 Ti Super is about 20% faster at 4K, and about 10-11% faster at 2560x1440p, than the 4070 Super. Which gets into a weird situation because I don’t think anyone would really consider the 4070 Super or prior 4070 to be a 4K gaming-targeted card, but the 4070 Ti had been in a weird spot where it could do it, but moreso I think with the likes of DLSS and the long-term concerns about RAM usage. The 4070 Ti Super going to 16GB alleviates that RAM concern I would think, but at $800, it’s probably overpriced some for 1440p gaming, but if you want good 4K gaming, why not just jump the $200 to the 4080 Super now.
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Jan 23, 2024 21:49
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I mean, yeah the ti super is fine, and the extra vram doesn't help in most situations but it does potentially give it more life. I was sorta hoping for more this late in the 4000 lifecycle but it's a B value card and I was hoping for an A-. The 4070 Super is surprisingly nice bump though. I think I'll be telling my 2080S that it's gotta pull main duty for a little while longer.
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Canned Sunshine posted:In general it appears the 4070 Ti Super is about 20% faster at 4K, and about 10-11% faster at 2560x1440p, than the 4070 Super. Spoken like a true amd fanboy.
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