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The Puppy Bowl posted:McCarthy over Penix seems strange to me. Both have concerns but I'd put a lot more faith in Penix being a value add if you build the right offense around. McCarthy seems like a game manager at his ceiling. Penix has some god-awful injury concerns.
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Since we're talking about QB's I asked a friend what he thought about this class since he likes scouting them (he also had Lamar as the best QB in that class) and here's his takesquote:i did a very surface level first pass through the top 6 QB prospects last night. very brief thoughts, very subject to change: As a side note if the Vikings draft McCarthy I'll probably have a little bit of a meltdown because watching him in the CFP I see nothing that interests me at the NFL level.
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Mccarthy on the 1st to the seahawks is just so lazy. It reads like "don't know who the coach will be and geno is not the long term answer so here's a QB I guess" Mccarthy is like the definition of JAG at the NFL level and who thinks he wouldn't be available in the 2nd or 3rd round anyway??
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EmbryoSteve posted:Mccarthy on the 1st to the seahawks is just so lazy. It reads like "don't know who the coach will be and geno is not the long term answer so here's a QB I guess" I would love the Seahawks to draft a DB or OLine round 1.
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Yeah we desperately need interior linemen on both sides of the ball and McCarthy is not just a reach, it's an altogether bad fit for what we need most.
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Jan 23, 2024 21:32
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I remember getting flak in this very thread when I said McCarthy was a first round pick. Teams can't help themselves when they see the arm talent. He's definitely a project though.
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If you want a project with arm talent, Joe Milton is right there in the lower rounds. He both has twice the arm talent and is also twice the project!
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Canned Sunshine posted:Mitch 2.0
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Kirios posted:I remember getting flak in this very thread when I said McCarthy was a first round pick. JJ McCarthy *shouldn’t* be a first round pick but that doesn’t mean he won’t be. I doubt he will be, but teams do dumb poo poo all the time. Likewise I don’t think Penix is a worth a first but it could happen.
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Operation: Let Herbie Sling It
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Any draft with the Titans getting Joe Alt is a good draft imo
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Mega64 posted:Any draft with the Titans getting Joe Alt is a good draft imo Say less
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JJ has maybe the emptiest tape of any player I've seen. Like, Josh Allen had plenty of things to dissect even if most of them were bad JJ somehow played 2+ years where he didnt actually do anything
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Kirios posted:I remember getting flak in this very thread when I said McCarthy was a first round pick. I feel like his arm is the last thing about JJ's game I would call talent
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I’m waiting for people to watch enough Drake Maye tape to realize he’s a candidate for the Jake Locker “gently caress it I’m out” award for guys who do not protect themselves and take away all their actual advantages with stupid decision making and nonsense scrambles. Wanna find out what Josh Allen does if he isn’t a giant indestructible cyborg that got retaught how to play football? Sign here! JJ is just the ultimate football guy horoscope. There’s no sample size for any throw on his tape so pick whatever you think is real. At all. Deep layers? Like 2-3. Hard outs? A few here and there. He literally never had to do anything and basically avoided putting outt bad tape by not putting out anything. If I had to guess, he’s more interception prone than we see, solely off of his motion doing a bit of aiming the ball like Watson or Zach Wilson. He has the tools to do quite a bit, but I hate his footwork on the run, he just kind of jumps and submarines himself into balls when he gathers, which works until someone cuts their grass differently and your cleats make you miss a guy 10 yards short into an NFL safety. One of you needs to suck it up and draft Rattler. He’s still way too arrogant deep, but he’s going to throw some sick vertical concepts in between getting screamed at for turnovers
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I still don't think JJ goes before the third.
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IcePhoenix posted:Since we're talking about QB's I asked a friend what he thought about this class since he likes scouting them (he also had Lamar as the best QB in that class) and here's his takes Your friend is very bad and wrong at the things he said about the QBs
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JJ McCarthy's ceiling is Malik Willis now
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Malik Washington is gonna be a steal forever picks him up.
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I highly recommend everyone picking a random low ranked QB that balls out in college to hang your hat on you look like a genius if you're right
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Seems an average of 4 WR's are taken in the 1st round going from the past 6 seasons so either Troy Franklin or Brian Thomas jr should go to the chiefs. I hope.
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BlindSite posted:I still don't think JJ goes before the third. QB shaped object will go sooner
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Fat Jesus posted:Seems an average of 4 WR's are taken in the 1st round going from the past 6 seasons so either Troy Franklin or Brian Thomas jr should go to the chiefs. I hope. I think Thomas will be long gone. Franklin might make it.
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TheGreyGhost posted:I’m waiting for people to watch enough Drake Maye tape to realize he’s a candidate for the Jake Locker “gently caress it I’m out” award for guys who do not protect themselves and take away all their actual advantages with stupid decision making and nonsense scrambles. Wanna find out what Josh Allen does if he isn’t a giant indestructible cyborg that got retaught how to play football? Sign here! I did a few mocks during lunch and was able to get rattler in the 3rd a bunch. A good shot imo and if the hawks can't move up for Daniel's I'm all for rattler in the 3rd to sit behind geno for a year (as.of.jan 2023)
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wandler20 posted:I think Thomas will be long gone. Franklin might make it. Well here's hoping. Think the Chiefs will take one or the other if they can or a OL and try sign Marquis Brown or somebody nice. I'm pretty confident MVS and Hardman are gone and they'll fix the WR poo poo one way or another.
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TheGreyGhost posted:One of you needs to suck it up and draft Rattler. He’s still way too arrogant deep, but he’s going to throw some sick vertical concepts in between getting screamed at for turnovers Finally Jameis can pass the torch.
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Fat Jesus posted:Well here's hoping. Think the Chiefs will take one or the other if they can or a OL and try sign Marquis Brown or somebody nice. I'm pretty confident MVS and Hardman are gone and they'll fix the WR poo poo one way or another. I think they will end up going DL. No real shot at keeping CJ nor will they be able to afford any quality FA.
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Doltos posted:I highly recommend everyone picking a random low ranked QB that balls out in college to hang your hat on you look like a genius if you're right Get ready for the Reese Poffenbarger Era
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LiquidFriend posted:I think they will end up going DL. No real shot at keeping CJ nor will they be able to afford any quality FA. we're moving Patrick's money to 2035, not like the salary cap is real, is it?
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Fat Jesus posted:we're moving Patrick's money to 2035, not like the salary cap is real, is it? Just give Michael Pittman Jr $25m per.
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Doltos posted:I highly recommend everyone picking a random low ranked QB that balls out in college to hang your hat on you look like a genius if you're right This is Hendon Hooker's year
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Fat Jesus posted:Well here's hoping. Think the Chiefs will take one or the other if they can or a OL and try sign Marquis Brown or somebody nice. I'm pretty confident MVS and Hardman are gone and they'll fix the WR poo poo one way or another. It’s a fantastic draft for the Chiefs because there’s so much WR and OT talent. They could plausibly get a day 1 starting RT or WR at the end of round 1. Heck maybe even a LT if the board goes right. And it’s a nice FA class for WRs too.
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Ornery and Hornery posted:It’s a fantastic draft for the Chiefs because there’s so much WR and OT talent. They could plausibly get a day 1 starting RT or WR at the end of round 1. Heck maybe even a LT if the board goes right. Yep, and that's why I don't agree with them getting a D line guy, too much talent elsewhere. I got a strong feeling they want to keep Mahomes happy and spending their 1st pick on D won't do that. He's the team.
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https://twitter.com/FootballEJ/status/1749838140712603950 Good year to need WRs indeed. Those contracts for Pittman/Higgins/et al might end up being surprisingly reasonable too with all this new talent coming in
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Nosre posted:https://twitter.com/FootballEJ/status/1749838140712603950 Hoping Dan Morgan does the needful and goes after one.
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Doltos posted:I highly recommend everyone picking a random low ranked QB that balls out in college to hang your hat on you look like a genius if you're right This is a good idea. I'm going to be so clever when Carter Bradley turns out to be the next Brock Purdy.
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Fat Jesus posted:Yep, and that's why I don't agree with them getting a D line guy, too much talent elsewhere. I got a strong feeling they want to keep Mahomes happy and spending their 1st pick on D won't do that. He's the team. I think this will be Offence heavy draft for the Chiefs even if they pick a IDL like Newton at the end of the 1st. They could plausibly double dip in WR and OT and/or target TE in Day 2 or 3. However, there is one IDL that is currently under contract for the 2024 season, so they will need to target it, especially if Jones goes after testing the market.
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