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Eediot Jedi
Dec 25, 2007

This is where I begin to speculate what being a
man of my word costs me

Jezza of OZPOS posted:

The electorate collectively have a memory of about six months there's no way anybody gives a poo poo about this by election time

Lol yeah, so in the lead up to the election when LABOR BROKE PROMISE AND KILLED TAX CUTS is getting blasted at voters 24/7, I'm sure the average person will remember the truth.

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Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

Jezza of OZPOS posted:

No idea what you mean sorry, I'm normal

Maybe I just read into the way the ALP in QLD talk about working with the Greens.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Blamestorm posted:

2% wealth tax for everyone with over $2m of assets and win the game

So basically everyone with a home. You don't need this kind of finicky tax that's hard to enforce, just tax estates.

Animal Friend
Sep 7, 2011

"Kim Williams, a former chief executive of News Corp Australia, will replace Ita Buttrose as chair of the ABC."

Cool

EoinCannon
Aug 29, 2008

Grimey Drawer
Do voters care about broken promises?
I don't really know any swing voters, maybe those perverts do

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

Animal Friend posted:

"Kim Williams, a former chief executive of News Corp Australia, will replace Ita Buttrose as chair of the ABC."

Cool

Weird how this keeps happening!

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay
if I get more money from broken promises they should break more imo

Blamestorm
Aug 14, 2004

We LOL at death! Watch us LOL. Love the LOL.

JBP posted:

So basically everyone with a home. You don't need this kind of finicky tax that's hard to enforce, just tax estates.

Everyone who has a $2m home then gets a major incentive to downsize and we bulldoze more Eastern Sydney 4br houses for duplexes, problem solved. Make it $3m if you want.

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug

Recoome posted:

Maybe I just read into the way the ALP in QLD talk about working with the Greens.

You get it here doorknocking too. At least once a doorknock, a volunteer comes back with a story about someone all bent out of shape about the Greens getting Abbott elected.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop

hooman posted:

Weird how this keeps happening!
It is all their extensive experience in public broadcasting!

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

GoldStandardConure posted:

You get it here doorknocking too. At least once a doorknock, a volunteer comes back with a story about someone all bent out of shape about the Greens getting Abbott elected.

Down here in Vic we still have people SUPER angry that the Green 'caused' the 2009 Black Saturday bushfires and 'murdered' all those people

SecretOfSteel
Apr 29, 2007

The secret of steel has always
carried with it a mystery.

JBP posted:

Just cancel negative gearing and get $10b a year ez

But what about all the "mum and dad" investors??

Regular Wario
Mar 27, 2010

Slippery Tilde

SecretOfSteel posted:

But what about all the "mum and dad" investors??

gently caress em

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

EoinCannon posted:

Do voters care about broken promises?
I don't really know any swing voters, maybe those perverts do

84% of tax payers going to get more because of this broken promise. Unless youa re on 180K you are better off.

Please Mr Albanese, break more promises if thats the outcome. The LNP arguing for tax cuts for the rich aint gonna go down so well

EoinCannon
Aug 29, 2008

Grimey Drawer
I've never really understood broken promises as a knock on a politician or party. It's table stakes, they all do it all the time. Most of the time they only "promise" things cos the media push them to.

Regular Wario
Mar 27, 2010

Slippery Tilde
broken promises only matter if labor does it

The Artificial Kid
Feb 22, 2002
Plibble

Blamestorm posted:

2% wealth tax for everyone with over $2m of assets and win the game

There’s already a wealth tax on landowners.

Rougey
Oct 24, 2013

Bucky Fullminster posted:

Hey would love to get your thoughts on the cycle plan if possible.

Ditto for Cat Interceptor.

Oh I already commented on it:

Rougey posted:

Definitely a manifesto.

Still, if there is one salient point:

"Relying on individual councils to propose individual segments within their LGAs is not going to deliver the contiguous network we need. "

EDIT: You really got to work on the pitch - put an exec summary up front and have all your strongest points in there.

Rougey fucked around with this message at 11:04 on Jan 24, 2024

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Non Compos Mentis posted:

broken promises only matter if labor does it

historically yes

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

JBP posted:

Just cancel negative gearing and get $10b a year ez



JBP posted:

So basically everyone with a home. You don't need this kind of finicky tax that's hard to enforce, just tax estates.

DEATH TAX 2.0

Really Labor should've had the stones to do these suggestions, instead we will probably get something absolute dogshit and not worth them blowing the political capital.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
I think we're the only first world country that doesn't have estate tax lol

lih
May 15, 2013

Just a friendly reminder of what it looks like.

We'll do punctuation later.

Recoome posted:

Maybe I just read into the way the ALP in QLD talk about working with the Greens.

yeah no one seriously cares about that stuff except labor hacks / rusted on weirdos

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

lih posted:

yeah no one seriously cares about that stuff except labor hacks / rusted on weirdos

Working class older Labor voters hate it, as do the ute driving voters and their contemporaries.

Bucky Fullminster
Apr 13, 2007

Rougey posted:

I already commented

Oh whoops so you did, sorry. I'm still interested in the specifics of the logistics and feasibility, but fair enough, I'll take that, no news is good news I guess.

SecretOfSteel
Apr 29, 2007

The secret of steel has always
carried with it a mystery.

But... But as "The Australian" rightly points out, more than a million (A MILLION) households will be worse off because benefits are being shifted to lower and middle income taxpayers (which I guess would make those million households in the high income bracket, and therefore the easiest demographic to empathise with).

...and just LOL "The Australian" is just utter, utter dogshit.

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freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Will the upper income bracket actually be "worse off" or is their tax cut just not going to be as large as it was going to be?

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

SecretOfSteel posted:

But... But as "The Australian" rightly points out, more than a million (A MILLION) households will be worse off because benefits are being shifted to lower and middle income taxpayers (which I guess would make those million households in the high income bracket, and therefore the easiest demographic to empathise with).

...and just LOL "The Australian" is just utter, utter dogshit.



https://www.news.com.au/finance/money/tax/aussies-earning-over-135000-do-deserve-a-tax-cut/news-story/a0f9dd2596d442e2396298999497dc88

This is the best they can come up with.

EoinCannon
Aug 29, 2008

Grimey Drawer

freebooter posted:

Will the upper income bracket actually be "worse off" or is their tax cut just not going to be as large as it was going to be?

They still get a tax cut, just around half of what they would have got

The reporting and politics around this issue is going to make me insane

Comstar
Apr 20, 2007

Are you happy now?

freebooter posted:

Will the upper income bracket actually be "worse off" or is their tax cut just not going to be as large as it was going to be?

Instead of getting 9000 extra money, they get 5000.


At the lowest end, you get 500.

Aware
Nov 18, 2003

freebooter posted:

Will the upper income bracket actually be "worse off" or is their tax cut just not going to be as large as it was going to be?

180k goes from a 6k cut to a 3.7k cut
200k+ goes from 9k to 4.5k

Both remain far larger cuts in tax than the lower brackets per person. I guess it's a ok/good middle ground, it's not like I'd budgeted around a particular increase in take home and I don't many others had already so it's all crocodile tears.

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
Woke Tropical Cyclone Cancels Australia Day for Patriotic QLD Battlers, Says Dutton

Eediot Jedi
Dec 25, 2007

This is where I begin to speculate what being a
man of my word costs me

What albo's cyclonic back flip means for you:

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.
If elected, the coalition will take away your tax cuts and give them to a bunch of overpaid wokerati like Pat Cummins and Waleed Aly

SecretOfSteel
Apr 29, 2007

The secret of steel has always
carried with it a mystery.


LOL at the Auspol darling chiming in. Enjoy the comment section people!

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SecretOfSteel
Apr 29, 2007

The secret of steel has always
carried with it a mystery.

...Also Melbourne is now the best capital city.

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Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

SecretOfSteel posted:

...Also Melbourne is now the best capital city.



As if this makes up for it.

1000 Sweaty Rikers
Oct 13, 2005

SecretOfSteel posted:

...Also Melbourne is now the best capital city.



hell yeah!

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop

The Artificial Kid posted:

There’s already a wealth tax on landowners.
Do you mean this?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-10/victorians-to-pay-most-property-tax-next-financial-year/102581716

https://taxpolicy.crawford.anu.edu.au/sites/default/files/uploads/taxstudies_crawford_anu_edu_au/2020-12/tax_fact_16_2020.pdf

Regular Wario
Mar 27, 2010

Slippery Tilde

SecretOfSteel posted:

...Also Melbourne is now the best capital city.



I saw someone saying they were pissed off about this on reddit

Grow up its just a loving statue you mong

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SecretOfSteel
Apr 29, 2007

The secret of steel has always
carried with it a mystery.

Non Compos Mentis posted:

I saw someone saying they were pissed off about this on reddit

Grow up its just a loving statue you mong

Jesus, on my Facebook feed I had boomers defiantly posturing that it will always be "Ayers Rock" despite the Uluru name change which happened, what, 30 years ago? My fault for logging onto Facebook.

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