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American McGay
Feb 28, 2010

by sebmojo
Well considering that you’ve already posted about 2-3 times letting us know that you’ll be skipping season 3 I don’t think that comes as much of a surprise.

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MrMidnight
Aug 3, 2006

So is it true it doesn't matter how much wards or whatever you have at the end of these vault dungeons? As long as you have 1 you'll get the extra chest?

Missed opportunity there to have it act as a juicing mechanic.

queeb
Jun 10, 2004

m



yeah it sounds like it, kind of a big miss there

harrygomm
Oct 19, 2004

can u run n jump?

MrMidnight posted:

So is it true it doesn't matter how much wards or whatever you have at the end of these vault dungeons? As long as you have 1 you'll get the extra chest?

Missed opportunity there to have it act as a juicing mechanic.

correct. they would have to have you lock in the amount of pearls you use up front i think, but could otherwise use this same system

also, not all the vaults are built the same.

the hawezar one (ink?) has ~3x as many trap rooms as the copper vault and the rewards at the end are the same. additionally, copper has a path where you have to kill one obelisk, dodge nothing else, end up in the final trap room, and can stand in the bottom left (as you enter) corner and not have to dodge anything there either. you'll want an unstoppable source in case there are fear or ice pull/spike mobs, but you can just stand there to wait out the timer, end guardian will walk over to you, and once defeated, will stop all the traps

finally there is a point where you can no longer put in pearls into the pedestal but it isn't immediately. i went a couple rooms in and popped some barrels before realizing i didn't have the buff. i wonder if you can just clear to the end and grab the buff after everything is dead

harrygomm
Oct 19, 2004

can u run n jump?

Hit Man posted:

Wow there's so much positive feedback on this page about season 3 that I don't think I can muster the energy to click update or even attempt to log in

please knock it off already, we know. i hope poe/poe2/TQ2/TL2/LE/whatever other arpg has got your attention holds more of it in the future

VideoGames posted:

This leads me to something else directed to the thread as a whole:
I had been getting a tad tired of people who just seem to hatepost while not playing. I do not mind you disliking stuff while playing, but actively sitting in the thread not touching the game just to complain is weird. It is really weird. There are better uses of posts. I do not like discouraging posting - negative or positive - I dislike echo chamber effects and would rather see opinions opposite to mine so I can understand stuff I miss.

You can be humourous and insightful more than just tiringly negative. Likewise I am not asking for unfettered praise and to state the game is perfect because that too is just as tiring (and false). Just ease off the hyperbolic negative pedals please.

queeb
Jun 10, 2004

m



im playing since my wife likes diablo, though we went back to 3 for season 30 and I think shes leaning towards going back to playing that more, I think we hyped up D4 to play co-op for so long that its hard for her to accept that shes not enjoying it. these are the only 2 games she plays so I think shes bummed out about d4

edit: shes more of a player that something drops in d3 that has a green up arrow on it on console she equips that poo poo, doesnt like looking at stats and just wants to blast and get legendaries. D4 definitely doesnt lean towards her playstyle

harrygomm
Oct 19, 2004

can u run n jump?

harrygomm posted:

end guardian will walk over to you, and once defeated, will stop all the traps

update to this part: it can actually just kill itself on the traps and finish the last room for you

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog
I don't like this "avoid traps to get your loot" mechanic, chiefly because i do not (want to) look where I'm going

harrygomm
Oct 19, 2004

can u run n jump?
it's the same problem as season 1 as well. if a trap is about to go off, it's not particularly hard to stop, it's just slow and boring. i'm glad i haven't run into any traps that outright stun, but there are lots of knockback effects which are essentially the same

if i had to guess the idea with the traps, especially those that create "safe corridors" or alternate lightning on the ground back and forth, is to get you to move around, not camp in the same place. but it's causing the exact opposite. i hope there are more/different viable avenues for leveling up the pet without having to do ward chest vaults but outside of creating the gatcha boxes i'm not seeing any yet

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

Pull me out

When you say level the pet are you talking about getting duplicates of the skill stones or does the pet itself also level up?

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

I like the theory that there are two different teams working on D4 seasons and we should only play even numbered seasons.

TyrantWD
Nov 6, 2010
Ignore my doomerism, I don't think better things are possible
I was traveling at the start of season 1, saw the feedback, and decided to skip it entirely when I got back. I’m traveling again and seeing the season 3 feedback, and I think it’s going to be another skipped league. At least Palworld is out to give me something to do until Last Epoch.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Dang this new overworld mechanic they did is :effort:

Is it really just the one thing with the pillars?

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

Pull me out

People really loved using blood lures to summon huge waves of enemies and bosses for multiple bags of loot that would make their character stronger

So in season 3 you can use shattered stones to summon a trickle of enemies and one elite who drops some skill gems you already have for a pet that's usually fighting one leftover guy from three screens ago

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

also why is the game still missing basic stuff like a loot filter

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

Pull me out

It doesn't feel like they're going to implement a loot filter, the line they're going with now is that the S4 item redesign will mean you don't need one

It's obviously bullshit, Diablo 3 has the simplest itemisation of any ARPG I've played and even that would benefit from a loot filter

Tarnop fucked around with this message at 13:34 on Jan 24, 2024

sim
Sep 24, 2003

Maybe I've reached the end of my time with D4, but I just can't find a build that feels fun, especially on a controller, that I haven't played a bunch already. I love the crunchy, weighty, big impact feel of Pulverize Druid and basically every Barbarian build, but I've already played those to 90+. I keep trying to make Sorcerer happen, but it sucks not being able to properly aim most of the skills (meteor, firewall, teleport, blizzard, etc.). The skills that are easier to aim on a controller just feel like farting on enemies. I need to bash things! Oh well, guess I'll just do a barb every season.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Controller really brings home how the entire game, no matter what class you play, is just hold basic attack > spend basic attack > spam cooldowns whenever they're up. The first season when I played a druid I messed up my thumb from the amount of holding X and tapping square. The only way to avoid this is weird trick builds that let you completely ignore basic attack by relying on uber uniques.

There's very little situational use for the powers, even with something like barb which seems like it should be great at rearranging the battlefield with all of its push / pull movement mechanics.

Even something like frost sorcerer ends up being more about easily applying vulnerable than it is cc.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

We're less than 24 hours into this new season and there seems to be an overwhelming consensus that the spider pet is boring and underwhelming and traps sucks the fun out of the game.

Only 3 months until season 4!

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

Ehud posted:

We're less than 24 hours into this new season and there seems to be an overwhelming consensus that the spider pet is boring and underwhelming and traps sucks the fun out of the game.

Only 3 months until season 4!
Yikes.

Tonetta
Jul 9, 2013

look mother look at ME MOTHER MOTHER I AM A HOMESTIXK NOW

**methodically removes and eats own clothes*

Ehud posted:

I like the theory that there are two different teams working on D4 seasons and we should only play even numbered seasons.

I genuinely hope this is true, because I like to swap between seasonal games anyways. too bad the even seasons are gonna run along tarkov wipes.

that said, they put a huge emphasis on nmd, & I strongly dislike the nmd system. unless they straight up remove all the objectives, they're just always gonna suck (in my perspective)

Mailer
Nov 4, 2009

Have you accepted The Void as your lord and savior?

Tiny Timbs posted:

also why is the game still missing basic stuff like a loot filter

Diablo 2, the most perfect game ever released, didn't have one.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

didn’t need it

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

Tonetta posted:

they put a huge emphasis on nmd, & I strongly dislike the nmd system. unless they straight up remove all the objectives, they're just always gonna suck (in my perspective)
Hard same. I could handle it a bit better in S2 when there was other stuff to do but I still dont like them. The affix roulette is god loving awful. As I will say ad nauseum, just give me the ability to do something fun where I can pick my challenge level without needing to worry about tedium like grinding materials or gambling on negative affixes making things more tedious.

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013
Loot filters are for cowards.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Ehud posted:

We're less than 24 hours into this new season and there seems to be an overwhelming consensus that the spider pet is boring and underwhelming and traps sucks the fun out of the game.

Only 3 months until season 4!

yeah blizzard needs to massively buff the spider pet to do way more damage alongside you.

MJBuddy
Sep 22, 2008

Now I do not know whether I was then a head coach dreaming I was a Saints fan, or whether I am now a Saints fan, dreaming I am a head coach.
I'm fine for S3 just because I started last season and I haven't burned through the builds enough that I need a lot of novelty in the seasons yet. I'll see if that holds through this one

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


They should let you pet the spider bot.

The new respec process is nice. Let's you play and move poo poo freely before committing to the change.

flashman
Dec 16, 2003

Mailer posted:

Diablo 2, the most perfect game ever released, didn't have one.

Diablo 2 loot filter was the color and name on the ground

External Organs
Mar 3, 2006

One time i prank called a bear buildin workshop and said I wanted my mamaws ashes put in a teddy from where she loved them things so well... The woman on the phone did not skip a beat. She just said, "Brang her on down here. We've did it before."
SpiderBot should be making GBS threads out stuff like the traps do :colbert:

Also, give us a way to focus fire / make it attack something specific.

Paying2Lurk
Sep 15, 2023

I'd take a bullet
for a bud any day.
Use the Hello emote when the bot is near and you can pet it!

Hit level 30 yesterday, splitting time between the season quest, whispers, and grabbing Aspects. Charging elites or big groups of enemies into walls is pretty fun.

AlbertFlasher
Feb 14, 2006

Hulk Hogan and the Wrestling Boot Band
Traps are dumb and bad. They are right there with escort quests in things that nobody likes.

I don't mind the spider bot thing. I just hope that it will stay relevant when you get into WT3 and 4. Seems helpful in WT2.

And to the person that asked if the spider bot levels, the damage skills scale with your level so the bot does do more damage as you level up. So it's kinda like levelling.

SPIRIT HALLOWEEN SALE
Nov 5, 2017
guess i'm done with the season at level 12! went to spend my talent point and encountered the UI / inventory hanging and crashing bug.

it was the reason i stopped last season as well. it's annoying with the 1-3 second stutter, downright aggravating with the 1 minute hang up, but unplayable with the hard lock ups.

my computer is more than capable of handling this game and has no issues in others. did a full on drivers purge and reinstall to no avail. this seems to be a common enough issue that i've seen it mentioned in reddit, discord, and even here with no official acknowledgement from blizzard. completely intermittent though, i played last season for a few long sessions without encountering it at all.

doesn't sound like i'm missing out on much, at least.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster
I like the vaults. They are pretty neat and something at least relatively new that requires some sort of skill or reflexes.

The spiderbot seems pretty boring. It's a nice little buff dispenser and is pretty useful while leveling as a class without a ton of AoE, but it's not especially exciting.

The arcane rifts are okay, but they are just slightly worse versions of the blood harvest. They are fine in a void, but you literally just had a better version available 2 days ago.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster
I'm just glad I can hear my sweet boy Kulle's voice again. Rest in power, King.

Paying2Lurk
Sep 15, 2023

I'd take a bullet
for a bud any day.
Yeah, I do miss the Blood Harvests. At least Legion events seem to always be going on.

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

they should go ahead and make it free to play or cut the price in half at least at this point

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

I better get my money back if they do that (unlikely )

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

or put it on gamepass

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Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


They should put it on the perfect Diablo playing console: The Nintendo Switch OLED.

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