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# ? Jun 10, 2024 17:53 |
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As is always mentioned: coffee.
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My company always had an exec who hung around despite changes, re-orgs, and, most recently, a seemingly made-up role. She recently announced her plan to retire. Sure enough, today it came out they're not backfilling her role and her org structure is moving to another leader lol.
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Dango Bango posted:My company always had an exec who hung around despite changes, re-orgs, and, most recently, a seemingly made-up role. God I want a sinecure
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Barudak posted:God I want a sinecure Fuckin same
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Atopian posted:As is always mentioned: coffee. On this topic: What do you do when the employees themselves ask you to get rid of the coffee? ![]() Context: Four years ago, our old-fashioned multi-station coffee maker broke. I ignored it at first because I don't drink coffee, but people bitched about not having a coffee maker so I put in tickets to repair it. The site cafeteria crew refused, delayed, etc, until the pandemic hit and it really did become a super low priority. Last year, as part of my little attempt to welcome everyone back to the office, I made a list of everyone's worst pet peeves in the office and had them all fixed. Things like that one air duct that whistles irritatingly, that chair with the bad wheel, that one electrical outlet tied to a motion timer that keeps powering down a monitor, AC too cold above someone's cubicle, etc etc. On that list? The coffee maker. Out goes the old one, in comes two induction carafes on a new unit with a hot water spigot and all. They wouldn't let us have the old-fashioned ones as an insurance risk anymore, and I didn't ask for a Keurig because they're an environmental nightmare (and because our side of campus just doesn't get the same level of maintenance / stocking that the other parts do). Still, this set is pretty snazzy. Nobody wants them. They wanted Keurigs. They wanted espresso machines. They wanted the fancy ones that grind the beans like what downstairs hasThey didn't want any of these enough to answer my coffee poll when I first tried to get them replaced, of course. They went for almost a year with only the cleaners using them. One of the principal scientists had, during the pandemic, put an entire goddamned espresso machine in his office. It's big. It takes up half a wall on his desk. The scientists go to his office for coffee, and my ops team doesn't have time for coffee. They're in the lab all day except for lunch time, which means no coffee for them. So now they're complaining about not having counter space in the break room because "there's that coffee machine nobody uses hogging the whole thing." I pointed out that cleaning and maintenance use it early before they get here, and their response was "Who cares? It's not their breakroom." (If you ask me, the janitors who clean up your labs deserve some motherfucking coffee.) This month I've received three separate requests to clear out the coffee machine. It was never my job in the first place to deal with the coffee machine. No good deed goes unpunished. ![]() Sundae fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Jan 24, 2024 |
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So, instead of just getting a Keurig or whatever for your workers. You got a coffee machine none of them wanted that only the cleaners use? Should’ve just got the Keurig.
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We have a nespresso with those small circular pods that give you like 2 sips of coffee and a flavia with the pouches that is actually quite good but those pouches seem like an environmental nightmare.
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fits my needs posted:So, instead of just getting a Keurig or whatever for your workers. You got a coffee machine none of them wanted that only the cleaners use? There are other reasons for "not a Keurig," but note the part where none of them bothered to tell me what they wanted. They just bitched about not having coffee, so I tried to get as close to what they had before as possible, as a result. (Also, they're not my workers. The ops team is my workers, the scientists are not. This is just me trying to be nice. ![]() 1) First reason for Not A Keurig is that site services / cafeteria services almost never comes down here. Need pod refills? You're not getting them. Need the machine fixed? Eat poo poo. Need milk for your coffee? Even with the recurring charge to your cost center, they're giving you expired milk or just not restocking until next quarter (but still regularly charging you). This is a bigger reason for Not Espresso than Not A Keurig, but both require more cleaning and service than ye olde drip pots. I can guarantee you right now that nobody in my group would do the maintenance themselves. 2) There's this whole Green Lab Initiative thing where everything we do for a lab or office area has to hit a certain level of "green" to hit environmental goals. Putting in a Keurig makes your waste goal for an office environment crash and burn almost instantly. I don't have enough other areas I could cut waste from effectively to offset that, and I'm held to that goal by our management. 3) I have budgetary approval to order ground coffee. I don't have approval for Keurig cups. They're actually classified separately, probably because of the environmental poo poo. Plus the scientists picked the existing ground coffee types we've historically stocked, so you know... I thought they liked them? Silly me. ![]() Keurig was effectively out of the question without support from the scientists, so really I should've just gotten them nothing given all I need is a cup of hot water for tea anyway. ![]()
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Yeah, you should have either done nothing or asked them what they wanted and create an even bigger headache for yourself. Maybe delegate it to an intern I dunno.
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fits my needs posted:Maybe delegate it to an intern I dunno. This is not the time to be assigning extra work to Sundae's intern ![]()
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Every office gets a Keurig because everyone wants to make their own ~special~ kind of coffee even though it all tastes awful anyway (and you're probably only getting a half dose of caffeine at best). But the real horror is how fast those things get utterly disgusting. No one ever cleans them. They need cleaning pretty drat near every day.
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Eric the Mauve posted:Every office gets a Keurig because everyone wants to make their own ~special~ kind of coffee even though it all tastes awful anyway (and you're probably only getting a half dose of caffeine at best). But the real horror is how fast those things get utterly disgusting. No one ever cleans them. They need cleaning pretty drat near every day. My building banned microwaves, coffee makers, and water pots except in kitchens and there are a pair of Keurig machines on each floor. They are vile and from day one I've just boiled water in the microwave and made my own at my desk with a clever dripper and supplies from home.
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We have the little flavia packet things and like 30 varieties to pick from. Is it good coffee? no. Is it free? yes. Thankfully it's cleaned every day and our kitchens are always pristine.
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I wfh and make locally roasted coffee with a pour over like god intended
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Vasudus posted:We have the little flavia packet things and like 30 varieties to pick from. Is it good coffee? no. Is it free? yes. Thankfully it's cleaned every day and our kitchens are always pristine. Do you have the dove chocolate packs for hot chocolate or mochas? Those are p good!
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The Fool posted:I wfh and make locally roasted coffee with a pour over like god intended Aeropress with a grinder in the plunger and a bag of beans even fits in a desk drawer for those of us hybriding. Although being in Europe, we have those train station lavazza vending machines all over. 0.80 for an espresso.
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Jean-Paul Shartre posted:Aeropress with a grinder in the plunger and a bag of beans even fits in a desk drawer for those of us hybriding. Although being in Europe, we have those train station lavazza vending machines all over. 0.80 for an espresso. Aeropress rules but you will have to put up with the office wag who comments "hey what's with the chemistry experiment??" Every. loving. Time he sees you making coffee.
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Jean-Paul Shartre posted:Although being in Europe, we have those train station lavazza vending machines all over. 0.80 for an espresso. I can't believe that's possibly better than the workplace Keurig or Nespresso.
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Midjack posted:My building banned microwaves, coffee makers, and water pots except in kitchens and there are a pair of Keurig machines on each floor. They are vile and from day one I've just boiled water in the microwave and made my own at my desk with a clever dripper and supplies from home. Brewing alcohol in prison but it's coffee at your desk. If anyone rats you out to the warden, you can shank them with a staple remover.
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~Coxy posted:I can't believe that's possibly better than the workplace Keurig or Nespresso. The machines fresh grind the beans so it tastes like mediocre dark roast espresso, which it is, rather than tasting like dust.
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Sundae posted:I pointed out that cleaning and maintenance use it early before they get here, and their response was "Who cares? It's not their breakroom." (If you ask me, the janitors who clean up your labs deserve some motherfucking coffee.) You have a straightforward solution here.
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Apparently the meeting where grumpy CEO/salesguy/cofounder finally grokked that his team had hallucinated some work in progress began with him pulling my PM and a random line engineer on my team into a call and lecturing them about how we "don't know how to estimate." His rationale is that one project was estimated at N weeks and that sounds too long to him. His basis for this is just, like, vibes. The fact that he's prominently and indisputably underestimated multiple technical workloads in the last couple of months appears to have not crossed his mind.
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We have a mediocre bean grinder/machine combo that if you put two espressos in produces something approximating a reasonable coffee. There is a coffe shop but last time I used it it was awful so why pay for that. Bizarrely, my train station on platform coffee shop does excellent coffee because their regular is 3 shots so it actually tastes of something. Then I still see people ordering an extra large one shot only cappuccino extra hot which is just ![]() priznat posted:Aeropress rules but you will have to put up with the office wag who comments "hey what's with the chemistry experiment??" Every. loving. Time he sees you making coffee. Better than "hey what's with the Swedish penis pump?" which the guy who actually brought it in said and then we all laughed and then never saw it again.
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quote:Four years ago, our old-fashioned multi-station coffee maker broke. I ignored it at first because I don't drink coffee What the gently caress is wrong with you? You don’t drink coffee so “broken coffee machine” was a problem that you didn’t think was important to fix? I felt bad for you for your HR INTERN CREEPY OLD MAN problems but you’re literally the worse for your attitude about not caring to fix the coffee machine the moment it broke.
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Boris Galerkin posted:What the gently caress is wrong with you? You don’t drink coffee so “broken coffee machine” was a problem that you didn’t think was important to fix? I felt bad for you for your HR INTERN CREEPY OLD MAN problems but you’re literally the worse for your attitude about not caring to fix the coffee machine the moment it broke. Typical manager mentality lol, someone buy the intern or one of the underlings an account. Want to know what they’ve been thinking about this while their manager is fixing squeaky wheels or whatever.
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Boris Galerkin posted:What the gently caress is wrong with you? You don’t drink coffee so “broken coffee machine” was a problem that you didn’t think was important to fix? I felt bad for you for your HR INTERN CREEPY OLD MAN problems but you’re literally the worse for your attitude about not caring to fix the coffee machine the moment it broke.
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Boris Galerkin posted:What the gently caress is wrong with you? You don’t drink coffee so “broken coffee machine” was a problem that you didn’t think was important to fix? I felt bad for you for your HR INTERN CREEPY OLD MAN problems but you’re literally the worse for your attitude about not caring to fix the coffee machine the moment it broke. My reading of the story is that Sundae is not actually directly or indirectly responsible for the coffee machine and only tried to upgrade it as a way of using his juice to gain some goodwill with non-reports.
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Waking up early to go to a breakfast series for an organization I don’t know anything about with coworkers who may not even attend and I’m not even sure we’re registered. Bleh. At least it’s beside the office if we’re not registered.
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Sundae posted:
Why are my underlings mad at me for getting a coffee machine they don’t use that takes up counter space in the break room? Well actually, the underlings are the ones who are wrong and need to be more appreciative. lmao
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Our main IT department (several hundred people) had a meeting yesterday to talk about business context. It was Mardi Gras themed. They gave out beads and at one point the manager of IT--who reports directly to the CIO--was in front of everyone wearing a domino mask and beads presenting about our priorities for the year. Nothing infuriates me more than people trying to make meetings "fun". Just say your poo poo and let us get back to work.
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Handing out beads? Good job you don't work with Sundae or that could have been another HR incident!
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Cael posted:Nothing infuriates me more than people trying to make meetings "fun". Just say your poo poo and let us get back to work. I think "trying" is the key word. When it happens unintentionally it's the best, like that lawyer who couldn't turn off the cat filter or Vivek pissing on a livestream
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Boris Galerkin posted:What the gently caress is wrong with you? You don’t drink coffee so “broken coffee machine” was a problem that you didn’t think was important to fix? I felt bad for you for your HR INTERN CREEPY OLD MAN problems but you’re literally the worse for your attitude about not caring to fix the coffee machine the moment it broke. please dial back the aggro, it's really not necessary. stop it. but drat, coffee must be a priority
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I always find it amusing when people bitch about Keurig pods being an environmental impact and disregard throwing out a half pot of coffee at the end of everyday. The latter took way more energy and water to produce but because it went down the sink it's not a big deal. In this case it's not counted on some useless green metric. The greener solution is to not have coffee because growing coffee is an environmental hazard.
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gariig posted:I always find it amusing when people bitch about Keurig pods being an environmental impact and disregard throwing out a half pot of coffee at the end of everyday. The latter took way more energy and water to produce but because it went down the sink it's not a big deal. In this case it's not counted on some useless green metric. The greener solution is to not have coffee because growing coffee is an environmental hazard. I WILL BURN THIS SORRY PLANET TO DUST FOR THE SAKE OF MY COFFEE Sorry, what was the question?
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docbeard posted:I WILL BURN THIS SORRY PLANET TO DUST FOR THE SAKE OF MY COFFEE Wicked same And no idea
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Jordan7hm posted:Waking up early to go to a breakfast series for an organization I don’t know anything about with coworkers who may not even attend and I’m not even sure we’re registered. Bleh. At least it’s beside the office if we’re not registered. I was not on the invite list and we didn’t have a table, but figured it out. I guess anyone can get in. Social anxiety while in a primary business development role is rough. Bleh. Then read my email to find out we have a utilization goal of 55% this year. ![]()
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gariig posted:I always find it amusing when people bitch about Keurig pods being an environmental impact and disregard throwing out a half pot of coffee at the end of everyday. The latter took way more energy and water to produce but because it went down the sink it's not a big deal. In this case it's not counted on some useless green metric. The greener solution is to not have coffee because growing coffee is an environmental hazard. If an office has an actual breakroom program then it should include Keurig pod recycling as a standard.
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# ? Jun 10, 2024 17:53 |
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Boris Galerkin posted:What the gently caress is wrong with you? You don’t drink coffee so “broken coffee machine” was a problem that you didn’t think was important to fix? I felt bad for you for your HR INTERN CREEPY OLD MAN problems but you’re literally the worse for your attitude about not caring to fix the coffee machine the moment it broke. 1) Not Sundae's job (but unfortunately the road to hell is paved with good intentions...) 2) Chill out
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