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In disbelief that a nominally left-wing podcaster who became a tradcath and lied about COVID conspiracy theories made a bad inconsistent movie.
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CelticPredator posted:There were figures in the Walmart toy isle. I gotta be honest the stuff about the animated series felt very strange to me. I feel like I am generally aware of most nerd poo poo, for my sins. And I especially have an interest in that Satanic Panic stuff from way back when. I watched Mazes and Monsters years ago. So I should have been aware of this cartoon's existence. But I had never heard of a Dungeons and Dragons animated series before, not ever, not even vaguely. And all of a sudden people are like, oh my god they're doing action figures of the beloved characters from the beloved classic Dungeon and Dragons cartoon and they have a cameo in the movie! I think it's fake. I think that cartoon never existed, Hasbro made that poo poo up to generate nostalgia.
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in the film they referenced the cartoon costumes so someone cares about
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CelticPredator posted:in the film they referenced the cartoon costumes so someone cares about Yeah I'm not saying no one cares, I'm saying it's fake. They made it up. There was no actual show, just an artificially created nostalgia for a show that never existed.
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E: ^^^^^^^ fuqrk it's happening When I was a kid I was only aware of the cartoon, not the actual game
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i have seen enough: Barbie will not be winning Best Picture
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You might not get the award you want but remember: you're still rich and could never work another day in your life and still be rich
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Guys there was a Dungeons and Dragons streaming channel. Did you know that? Not surprising, absolutely nobody did. https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/14/23961054/theres-a-whole-dungeons-dragons-channel-now
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Hashtag inserting herself in the conversation is... gross. Politician's gonna politician.CelticPredator posted:in the film they referenced the cartoon costumes so someone cares about Having never seen the cartoon, I noticed and was tickled by those costumes because I assumed it was a nod to larpers or those people throwing tennis fire balls at each other in the woods inspired by dnd. In general tho it felt like the movie acknowledging the inspiration's dorkiness and allowing it to just "be" instead of having someone quip at how dumb their outfit looks. Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Guys there was a Dungeons and Dragons streaming channel. Did you know that? Not surprising, absolutely nobody did. They are so, so late to this boat. Poor bastards. Do love to see the people who led the charge on Actual Play get featured on these shows tho. Get that dough. Also recently watched HouseBound. Went in with too high of expectations built up from a bud. It's fine, but a lot of the bits missed to me. Please Don't Destroy: The Treasure of Foggy Mountain makes the case that Conan O'Brien should be in more movies playing the straight man. Was also 'ok', felt decent but at no point really grabbed me. The kind of comedy you would see on Comedy Central and keep on in the background as you do other stuff. CatstropheWaitress fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Jan 24, 2024 |
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Gripweed posted:Yeah I'm not saying no one cares, I'm saying it's fake. They made it up. There was no actual show, just an artificially created nostalgia for a show that never existed. The show existed and it's just weird enough not to be fake. It's basically an isekai and there's a dude literally called the Dungeon Master.
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ShoogaSlim posted:when every movie that came out was interconnected to the plot of thanos and his big evil scheme, i could at least be on board with the episodic nature of the movies feeling like big screen prestige tv shows leading to a finale. That was all the marketing, though. There's no real plot connection between, say, Captain America Winter Soldier and the later films; it was very much an exquisite corpse from the beginning. The narrative of the MCU was largely metatextual, with people tracking production news (casting announcements, corporate partnerships, etc.) and theorycrafting based on sequel teasers. Without that stuff as a supplement, the project collapses back into just a series of mediocre action movies. Like, what can do with a "multiverse?" Well, obviously, you can have 'alternate versions' of familiar comics characters show up from different 'worlds' and work together to accomplish some goal - like in the last 15 years of MCU. Goofy Thor would teleport in to briefly interact with Iraq War Iron Man. Then, suddenly, in the last couple 'episodes'... we gotta save the entire universe! It's already been done! In other words, the movies have always been "empty one-offs", but there's now no longer the promise that we'll eventually get to a fireworks factory. The fireworks happened exactly once, as an orgy of blunt fanservice by the directors of Cherry and The Grey Man. As with Aquaman 2, the individual movies haven't actually gotten any better or worse. A2 actually addressed nearly all of issues I had with the first one, but the advertising around it was downright poisonous. SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Jan 24, 2024 |
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If you were an 80s tween nerd at some point i guarantee you that the D&D cartoon was a big important part of your childhood landscape. The idea that it was fake or wasn't real or had no actual fans is execrably stupid. We're all just old.
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CatstropheWaitress posted:Having never seen the cartoon, I noticed and was tickled by those costumes because I assumed it was a nod to larpers or those people throwing tennis fire balls at each other in the woods inspired by dnd. In general tho it felt like the movie acknowledging the inspiration's dorkiness and allowing it to just "be" instead of having someone quip at how dumb their outfit looks. Yeah, I liked that the reference was just allowed to exist and they didn't really point too much at it.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:That was all the marketing, though. There's no real plot connection between, say, Captain America Winter Soldier and the later films; it was very much an exquisite corpse from the beginning. The narrative of the MCU was largely metatextual, with people tracking production news (casting announcements, corporate partnerships, etc.) and theorycrafting based on sequel teasers. Without that stuff as a supplement, the project collapses back into just a series of mediocre action movies. Remember when the sequel tease in Guardians of the Galaxy was fuckin Howard the Duck?
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SMG, what issues did you have with the first Aquaman and how were they addressed in A2?
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random of the day: even though i'm aware that harakiri was a more widely circulated word than seppuku in the west, i still find it silly that the former was the title for the western release while the latter was title of the movie in japan. are there others instances of this happening, where the international title is left untranslated from the original language but it's a different title with a similar meaning compared to the native release?
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Coaaab posted:random of the day: even though i'm aware that harakiri was a more widely circulated word than seppuku in the west, i still find it silly that the former was the title for the western release while the latter was title of the movie in japan. are there others instances of this happening, where the international title is left untranslated from the original language but it's a different title with a similar meaning compared to the native release? Night of the Demon / Curse of the Demon 
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I wonder if it happens a lot with biopic titles, like if Ali was released as Muhammad Ali in other countries
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X-Ray Pecs posted:Remember when the sequel tease in Guardians of the Galaxy was fuckin Howard the Duck? No because it never was It was just a bit
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I happen to know "The Hangover" is called "Very Bad Trip" in France, still in english. I bet there's a bunch of these
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Jay Rust posted:I happen to know "The Hangover" is called "Very Bad Trip" in France, still in english. I bet there's a bunch of these That's My Boy featuring Andy Samberg and Adam Sandler. 
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The 2014 comedy Neighbors was released as Bad Neighbours internationally because there's a long-running Australian soap opera called Neighbours that's pretty well known in Britain and some other European countries and they were worried it could cause confusion. Margot Robbie was on Neighbours for a few years as were Kylie Minogue and Guy Pierce. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBFY8vlz6L4
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Mierenneuker posted:That's My Boy featuring Andy Samberg and Adam Sandler.
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Isn't there a thing on France where there was a popular comedy called "Crazy ____" however many decades ago and now they call like half of the import comedies similar titles now?
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Jay Rust posted:I happen to know "The Hangover" is called "Very Bad Trip" in France, still in english. I bet there's a bunch of these There are a ton, like this doesn’t even scratch the surface https://www.rd.com/list/movies-hilarious-titles-in-other-countries/
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Steve Yun posted:There are a ton, like this doesn’t even scratch the surface Those seem like translations, e.g. i don't think the spanish version of The Dark Knight literally says "The Knight of the Night", in english, on the posters
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In another thread Light Gun Man suggested I check out Asami's IMDB page, and I think that's the best collection of good movie titles I've ever seen.
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trevorreznik posted:SMG, what issues did you have with the first Aquaman and how were they addressed in A2? Aquaman 1 was a troubled production, where they evidently had to make a lot of changes in pre-production and beyond. You can get a sense of the original concept by watching the darn Snyder Cut, where the Aquaman is a bitter alcoholic because of his exile from the land of straightfaced science fantasy. When 'grimdark' became a meme, the studio obviously panicked at the premise of 'bitter alcoholic Aquaman' and consequently tried to 'lighten the tone' through such methods as literally just dialing up the saturation by 50%. The biggest change was, of course, making Aquaman into a wisecracking party doofus who loves beer in a goofy way. So that probably explains why the actually-released film features reams and reams of shoddy expository dialogue and conspicuously 'punched-up' comedy stuff at the expense of the setting. The nadir, for me, is a shot of Aquaman's 'stats' put up on a jumbotron, where the joke is that they're insulting stats. Jot note "he's smelly", or whatever. It's a joke ripped from the studio cut of Suicide Squad, which was itself ripped from the Guardians Of The Galaxy teaser trailer. Besides it being hack poo poo, why are the Atlanteans writing in English? Aquaman 2 avoids most of these issues, intentionally or not, by making the villain and his sidekick the protagonists for the first third of the movie. After the extremely lovely pre-titles recap/prologue, you mostly get to watch these dudes go on adventures, battle monsters, do a heist.... Then Patrick Wilson shows up and steals the show. Aquaman pretty much becomes the comic relief of his own movie, and nearly all the jokes stem from him being an rear end in a top hat. And I mean that in a good way: Jason Momoa sells that role without undercutting anything, and the setting itself is more coherent as a result. Instead of constantly vascillating between dramatic fantasy and wakka-wakka poo poo that undercuts it, Aquaman 2 takes inherently-silly pulp subject matter (robot squids, costumed henchmen, spooky glowing skelingtons, etc.) and consistently presents them as legitimate threats. Also, because it's very much an Aquaman Part 2, the exposition's mostly out of the way and you can just watch these super-guys do stuff. It suffers as a standalone film but, if you treat the two as a single 5-hour movie (as with the Matrix sequels), the addition of this second half increases the overall quality by like 75%.
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I watched the Aquaman 2 trailers forgetting that Patrick Wilson was in Aquaman 1 so I was like “oh, it’s a new character, Aquaman’s long-lost brother” and it was only when I actually watched the movie I remembered he was literally the villain in the first one
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Aquaman 1 was a troubled production, where they evidently had to make a lot of changes in pre-production and beyond. You can get a sense of the original concept by watching the darn Snyder Cut, where the Aquaman is a bitter alcoholic because of his exile from the land of straightfaced science fantasy. When 'grimdark' became a meme, the studio obviously panicked at the premise of 'bitter alcoholic Aquaman' and consequently tried to 'lighten the tone' through such methods as literally just dialing up the saturation by 50%. The biggest change was, of course, making Aquaman into a wisecracking party doofus who loves beer in a goofy way. I liked the first movie a lot but drat, this makes me wanna watch the second where I had zero interest before due to the shoddy marketing and it's weird place in Inconsequential Limbo.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Aquaman 1 was a troubled production, where they evidently had to make a lot of changes in pre-production and beyond. You can get a sense of the original concept by watching the darn Snyder Cut, where the Aquaman is a bitter alcoholic because of his exile from the land of straightfaced science fantasy. When 'grimdark' became a meme, the studio obviously panicked at the premise of 'bitter alcoholic Aquaman' and consequently tried to 'lighten the tone' through such methods as literally just dialing up the saturation by 50%. The biggest change was, of course, making Aquaman into a wisecracking party doofus who loves beer in a goofy way. Thanks for the detailed writeup.
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So many self-inflicted wounds by WB because they bought into completely fake criticisms. It's the dumbest poo poo since D&D 5e.
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I actually thought Aquaman 2 was pretty good. Definitely better than The Flash. I mean, it's not a movie that needed to exist, but it was a nice enough romp through different locations with some pretty good action. Even the decision to pair him with his bland brother villain from the first movie worked out in an emotional way. It has some heart to it.
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Escobarbarian posted:I watched the Aquaman 2 trailers forgetting that Patrick Wilson was in Aquaman 1 so I was like “oh, it’s a new character, Aquaman’s long-lost brother” and it was only when I actually watched the movie I remembered he was literally the villain in the first one That’s another thing: Black Manta was a much more interesting villain in Part 1 (no offense to Wilson). He’s a murderous pirate who gives himself superpowers largely through sheer talent, and uses them to get into petty knife-fights. That’s dope! And Part 2 is 100% the Black Manta show. I also really liked that nobody really refers to him by his codename in Part 2, so it’s like ‘we gotta stop David before he blows up the device’ and so-on. It’s not played as a joke; that’s just his name. trevorreznik posted:Well heck, sounds like they have a hidden gem on their hands. “Hidden gem” might be overstating it a bit but, if you thought Aquaman 1 was okay, the sequel is simply more of that. The poor response is like entirely backlash against WB after their mistreatment of various artists and a string of annoyingly bad garbage flops. A lot of the people I’ve seen getting upset at Aquaman 2 are upset about stuff that was in the first movie. Like, ‘Patrick Wilson is tricked into eating a bug because he doesn’t understand Earth food! This is so disrespectful to the characters!!!’ Amber Heard ate a bouquet of roses in the first one. It’s a direct callback, but more interesting because it’s a callback (and actually functions as characterization this time).
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