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Schubalts
Nov 26, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life, I think I've gone too far.
How would you even see the road in that thing?

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mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Schubalts posted:

How would you even see the road in that thing?

Where we are going, we don't need to see roads.

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

Vegetable posted:

You can test whatever you want. But I don’t get the point of trying to catch generative AI technologies in a gotcha. It’s known to everyone that they’re fallible in unexpected ways. They will continue to make mistakes even in the age of AGI. They’re still plenty good.

It demonstrably is not known, see all the cases where educated people have relied on it and gotten fucken rekt.

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

Schubalts posted:

How would you even see the road in that thing?

Run over a child, you can get a brief assessment of the road when they go under the rear tires and you have a momentary downward survey angle.

Per the followup question "im sorry, how do you run over a child" the answer is: with extraordinary ease

as these machines are so aggressive with their ego-stoking dimensions that they have criminally negligent driver sight lines and dead zones, exceeding (as perfectly random, sensible market alternative examples) peterbilt tractor trailer semis and abrams tanks

Blut
Sep 11, 2009

if someone is in the bottom 10%~ of a guillotine

Staluigi posted:

Run over a child, you can get a brief assessment of the road when they go under the rear tires and you have a momentary downward survey angle.

Per the followup question "im sorry, how do you run over a child" the answer is: with extraordinary ease

as these machines are so aggressive with their ego-stoking dimensions that they have criminally negligent driver sight lines and dead zones, exceeding (as perfectly random, sensible market alternative examples) peterbilt tractor trailer semis and abrams tanks



The SUVs/pick-ups are bad enough, but they're at least partly explained by American consumers being idiots. But why on earth are commercial trucks built like that? Surely they're the easiest possible to keep to more sensible designs, no trucker is going to give a poo poo what his company truck looks like?

In Europe all our similar sized/capability trucks have perfectly flat faces and it seems a very obvious better state of affairs:

Skinnymansbeerbelly
Apr 1, 2010

Staluigi posted:

now guess what differences might exist between the towing capacity of these two vehicles and which one got more GCVWR

One of those trucks listed GCVWR is from before SAE J2807, they are not apples-to-apples comparisons

Electric Wrigglies
Feb 6, 2015

Blut posted:

The SUVs/pick-ups are bad enough, but they're at least partly explained by American consumers being idiots. But why on earth are commercial trucks built like that? Surely they're the easiest possible to keep to more sensible designs, no trucker is going to give a poo poo what his company truck looks like?

In Europe all our similar sized/capability trucks have perfectly flat faces and it seems a very obvious better state of affairs:



Conventional (as in not cab-over) configuration is far easier to work on and more comfortable to drive (longer wheel-base and also driver position being positioned between the axels). Also less likely to get whacked by animals (in Australia there is a big huge bull bar to help with that too).

Cabal Ties
Feb 28, 2004
Yam Slacker
Exactly. Trying to tackle a complex beast like artificial intelligence when there’s serious debate going on about whether it’s ok or not for vehicles to get so big they are a danger to everyone around them for (almost) nothing but cosmetic reasons.

We haven’t got a chance.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa
Why don't they make the truck cabin look like this

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Nenonen posted:

Why don't they make the truck cabin look like this




They did :cry:

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
Oh god the sad fat fish truck, it's beautiful.

How did this wonder of engineering and design never catch on!!!

Rocko Bonaparte
Mar 12, 2002

Every day is Friday!

Blut posted:

The SUVs/pick-ups are bad enough, but they're at least partly explained by American consumers being idiots. But why on earth are commercial trucks built like that? Surely they're the easiest possible to keep to more sensible designs, no trucker is going to give a poo poo what his company truck looks like?

In Europe all our similar sized/capability trucks have perfectly flat faces and it seems a very obvious better state of affairs:



The talking point I have gotten on American commercial trucks having their engines out in front is that they need the cab space for a place to sleep since they are driving longer distances. I'm not entirely convinced about this. I can trace a 4500km route from Tallinn, Estonia down to Gibraltar. That's like going from Orlando to San Francisco. But that's the biggest reason given nonetheless.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

dr_rat posted:

Oh god the sad fat fish truck, it's beautiful.

How did this wonder of engineering and design never catch on!!!
We live in the worst possible timeline, that's how :sad:


Rocko Bonaparte posted:

The talking point I have gotten on American commercial trucks having their engines out in front is that they need the cab space for a place to sleep since they are driving longer distances. I'm not entirely convinced about this. I can trace a 4500km route from Tallinn, Estonia down to Gibraltar. That's like going from Orlando to San Francisco. But that's the biggest reason given nonetheless.
IIRC, Europe has a limit on total truck+trailer length so they make the cab shorter to maintain the trailer length.

The normal looking ones like in that photo probably have a small bed behind the seats like this:



You could probably just make the cab longer to have more space but that would cut into trailer space so I don't there are (m)any of those

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Now add the twin .50 cals

Nervous
Jan 25, 2005

Why, hello, my little slice of pecan pie.

Nenonen posted:

Now add the twin .50 cals

Jesus III
May 23, 2007
I thought they banned porn from this site a long time ago

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Rocko Bonaparte posted:

The talking point I have gotten on American commercial trucks having their engines out in front is that they need the cab space for a place to sleep since they are driving longer distances. I'm not entirely convinced about this. I can trace a 4500km route from Tallinn, Estonia down to Gibraltar. That's like going from Orlando to San Francisco. But that's the biggest reason given nonetheless.

Yeah, but how often are truck drivers actually going from Estonia to Gibraltar? Shipping by boat is often cheaper and more efficient than shipping by land, so freight often starts at the nearest port and gets trucked inland. There's not a whole lot of places in Europe that are 2000km from the nearest major port, but there's a big chunk of the Western US that's just nowhere near the ocean or even major rivers. And a lot of that is just driving over big empty highways with basically nothing in sight.

There's also other differences due to regional laws and practices, such as the fact that American truck drivers are allowed to drive for more hours in a single day than Europeans can.

socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003

American truck drivers are often owner/operators meaning any hotel rooms and the such will come out of their own pockets and hurt their already poor profits.

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

I am interested in most phases of data processing.

socialsecurity posted:

American truck drivers are often owner/operators
not anymore lol

Xand_Man
Mar 2, 2004

If what you say is true
Wutang might be dangerous


I think yall are making the same point, the trucking company shift to contractors means that "owner/operators" often have to pay off loans to their (real) employer

socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003

cat botherer posted:

not anymore lol

Ha ok add "stuck in a predatory lease" onto that list.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2-xInUb7nA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asYhAU_mzxw

Threadkiller Dog
Jun 9, 2010
Pretty much everything from down continent that gets to Sweden gets trucked for a couple of thousand kilometers to get anywhere useful.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Cabal Ties posted:

Exactly. Trying to tackle a complex beast like artificial intelligence when there’s serious debate going on about whether it’s ok or not for vehicles to get so big they are a danger to everyone around them for (almost) nothing but cosmetic reasons.

We haven’t got a chance.

quote:

In a thought experiment, Tyndall calculated what would happen if vehicle hood heights were limited by regulation to 49.2 inches (1.25 m) or less. "Across the 2,126 pedestrians killed by high-front-ended vehicles (1.25 m), I estimate 509 lives would be saved annually by adopting a 1.25-m front-end limit. The lives saved equal 7% of annual pedestrian deaths. Reducing the limit to 1.2 m would spare an estimated 757 pedestrian lives per year, and further reducing the cap to 1.1 m would spare an estimated 1,350 pedestrian lives per year," he writes.

I don’t have great hopes that our supposed leaders will do that when they are unwilling to lift a finger to reduce the ongoing death rate of COVID‑19 by a single percent, for a similar saving of lives.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Threadkiller Dog posted:

Pretty much everything from down continent that gets to Sweden gets trucked for a couple of thousand kilometers to get anywhere useful.

Sweden is only ~1500 km from tip to tip (and most people live in the south) so... to Finland? :hmmyes:

Rocko Bonaparte
Mar 12, 2002

Every day is Friday!

Main Paineframe posted:

Yeah, but how often are truck drivers actually going from Estonia to Gibraltar? Shipping by boat is often cheaper and more efficient than shipping by land, so freight often starts at the nearest port and gets trucked inland. There's not a whole lot of places in Europe that are 2000km from the nearest major port, but there's a big chunk of the Western US that's just nowhere near the ocean or even major rivers. And a lot of that is just driving over big empty highways with basically nothing in sight.

There's also other differences due to regional laws and practices, such as the fact that American truck drivers are allowed to drive for more hours in a single day than Europeans can.

I'm not really versed in trucking for anywhere, but I did skim some anecdotes about trips from Finland to Spain, or from Romania to Spain. Lots of Spain, for some reason. I was wondering that too given the peninsula.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa
Working at a Finnish dairy factory for summer work I learned that one time a Greek truck driver had showed at their door at which point he had been told that his company had mixed dates somewhow, the cheese order he had come to fetch wasn't supposed to be ready until two weeks later. Well. His company wasn't going to pay a roundtrip to come back for it so he spent the next weeks at the factory parking lot sleeping the nights in his truck.

Lamquin
Aug 11, 2007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjO0Ddorma8 goes through some of the differences fairly well - it's a neat, short watch!

Threadkiller Dog
Jun 9, 2010

Nenonen posted:

Sweden is only ~1500 km from tip to tip (and most people live in the south) so... to Finland? :hmmyes:

Well the Haparanda Systembolaget needs to get properly stocked for you guys - we aim to please.

Threadkiller Dog fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Jan 24, 2024

Cabal Ties
Feb 28, 2004
Yam Slacker

Main Paineframe posted:

Yeah, but how often are truck drivers actually going from Estonia to Gibraltar? Shipping by boat is often cheaper and more efficient than shipping by land, so freight often starts at the nearest port and gets trucked inland. There's not a whole lot of places in Europe that are 2000km from the nearest major port, but there's a big chunk of the Western US that's just nowhere near the ocean or even major rivers. And a lot of that is just driving over big empty highways with basically nothing in sight.

There's also other differences due to regional laws and practices, such as the fact that American truck drivers are allowed to drive for more hours in a single day than Europeans can.

All I can tell you is one of the companies I work for operates massive trucks throughout Europe from the uk and there are all sorts of rules and regs truck drivers have to work by here.

What you refer to as practices I generally refer to as worker rights, whether you agree with them or not. Not even all the drivers agree to all of them.

We haven’t solved the problem of trucks being a huge killer on the roads but why would you not want to take steps to ensure this was priority? This is what I mean. It’s a no brainer, even if we don’t draw a distinction between an 18 ton lorry doing 2000km and a posers gmc truck grill. Plenty of reasons like that.

spincube
Jan 31, 2006

I spent :10bux: so I could say that I finally figured out what this god damned cube is doing. Get well Lowtax.
Grimey Drawer

Rocko Bonaparte posted:

I'm not really versed in trucking for anywhere, but I did skim some anecdotes about trips from Finland to Spain, or from Romania to Spain. Lots of Spain, for some reason. I was wondering that too given the peninsula.

Bilbao is a port city, so they'll probably be carrying cross-Atlantic container freight heading to & from northern Europe; rail freight in Spain is complicated by the different track gauge, so any cargo would need transhipment anyway ... may as well put it on a truck all the way, and avoid any handling charges.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Google has a new AI video generator

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxLr02Dz2Sc
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/01/googles-latest-ai-video-generator-renders-implausible-situations-for-cute-animals/

I know people are (rightfully) skeptical and the results do still kind of sucks and look weird but gently caress 10 years ago you couldn't get a computer to recognize an apple in a picture. Now you just type a sentence and it makes an entire video clip for you. If it gets decent enough I suspect it could be useful for generating some b-roll for your content. At least until all your videos are replaced with AI garbage.

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

I am interested in most phases of data processing.

mobby_6kl posted:

Google has a new AI video generator
Stoked to hear about this constantly on LinkedIn!

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
Why the hell are you reading LinkedIn posts

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

I am interested in most phases of data processing.
I don’t but I’m on that garbage all the time applying for jobs so I wind up seeing them by accident

Sagacity
May 2, 2003
Hopefully my epitaph will be funnier than my custom title.

feedmyleg posted:

Why the hell are you reading LinkedIn posts
Where else would you find life coaches and thought leaders sharing their expertise? Medium?!

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Sagacity posted:

Where else would you find life coaches and thought leaders sharing their expertise? Medium?!

X, the blaze your glory app.

Electric Wrigglies
Feb 6, 2015

Cabal Ties posted:

All I can tell you is one of the companies I work for operates massive trucks throughout Europe from the uk and there are all sorts of rules and regs truck drivers have to work by here.

What you refer to as practices I generally refer to as worker rights, whether you agree with them or not. Not even all the drivers agree to all of them.

We haven’t solved the problem of trucks being a huge killer on the roads but why would you not want to take steps to ensure this was priority? This is what I mean. It’s a no brainer, even if we don’t draw a distinction between an 18 ton lorry doing 2000km and a posers gmc truck grill. Plenty of reasons like that.

and if you were to priortise the truck driver's life and well being, well you would ban cab over trucks as the first step.

nachos
Jun 27, 2004

Wario Chalmers! WAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Lamquin posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjO0Ddorma8 goes through some of the differences fairly well - it's a neat, short watch!

American and Euro Truck Simulator are frequently on sale for $5 if you want to experience the difference too!

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Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

nachos posted:

American and Euro Truck Simulator are frequently on sale for $5 if you want to experience the difference too!

Do the new versions of Euro truck accurately simulate the Dover queues since Brexit?

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