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A Sneaker Broker posted:RIP to teams who need a Tight End. Bucs really could use one. Not surprising it's not a deep draft at TE after the insane class last year.
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Only the Packers were smart enough to grab two TEs last year
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Doltos posted:Only the Packers were smart enough to grab two TEs last year Raiders, Cowboys, Packers, and the Lions cashed in.
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Doltos posted:Only the Packers were smart enough to grab two TEs last year That offense is going to be a huge problem for defenses for the next few years.
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wandler20 posted:That offense is going to be a huge problem for defenses for the next few years. I would like for the Pack another WR as insurance for CWat.
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Jan 24, 2024 19:41
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Doltos posted:Only the Packers were smart enough to grab two TEs last year 49ers did too, but it remains to be seen if either is good.
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A Sneaker Broker posted:Bralen Trice or Laiatu Latu. I'll make a thick post about Edge talent. Don't leave me hanging!
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trevorreznik posted:Don't leave me hanging! Oh it's still cooking. I want to wait till the Senior Bowl. But if you insist, I'll make it now.
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A Sneaker Broker posted:Oh it's still cooking. I want to wait till the Senior Bowl. But if you insist, I'll make it now. No worries, I appreciate you being willing to make a big writeup. I can wait.
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The Raiders forum is currently debating JJ McCarthy or Bo Nix. I don't follow college much these days but I assume they both suck if they fall to 13. I'm guessing that as long as Chicago wants a new QB that Williams, Maye and Daniels will all go in the top 3 making any thoughts of trading up for Daniels pretty useless with all 3 teams there absolutely needing a QB above all else. poo poo
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Raiders just trade their first for Justin Fields. So simple.
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JJ McCarthy at 13 would be amazing I hope the Raiders do it
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Latu is pretty accomplished as a technician. He gets really low and constantly wins leverage battles. He's mostly a hand fighter and uses sheds more than bull rushes or beating people with athleticism. Only average first step, explosion, and strength. He's just smart on how he stunts and where he places his feet. Not a lot of wasted movement. He's also decent in coverage. Latu has a big concern with his neck though. It got surgically repaired but he did lose a ton of time to it. That's why he wears that collar roll. Dallas Turner might be a pass rush only specialist. He's super fast and has a great corner turn. Good balance getting under guys when he does it too. He's kind of an okay run defender but I think he makes his bread and butter in trying to blow up the run in the backfield since he can get there pretty quick. I don't think he really has a firm grasp on pass rushing technique. He's got an okay rip move but other than that he appears to be all speed. Not that that's a bad thing per se since you don't really need pass rushing moves if you're that explosive. He'll most likely be a 3-4 OLB or something since you can stick him on TEs. Chop Robinson is all effort and athleticism. I don't think he quite has a grasp on how to play the position. Penn State stuck him all over the DL and kinda just had him go after guys as a disrupting force rather than a solid defender you can rely on. He's definitely one of the most athletic guys in the draft up there with Dallas Turner but there's just no technique. He constantly gets stacked up and shoved around if his initial burst doesn't work. He needs to learn hand fighting better and how to do run fits or else I dunno. I mean the athleticism is all there on tape. He did nothing stats wise against Ohio State or Michigan but he was enabling guys around him just by being fast. Yes his name also isn't Chop but Demeioun is hard to spell. Jared Verse is another pass rush only guy that you can drop back into coverage sometimes. He had the same role as Jermaine Johnson or Janarius Robinson where FSU just used him as a stand up blitzer constantly. He's got every pass rush move in the book and uses them all well. Great bend and agility in general. Good use of hands to go with his first step. He was completely unmanageable in the Florida game and was just whipping their backfield in the run and passing game. LSU and somewhat Clemson was bad tape though. He can't defend the run to save his life and gets completely caught in the wash when it happens. He also had problems with OTs that dip back into their stance and take him at the apex of his arc rather than trying to fight him at the line. I don't think FSU really prepares their edge rushers for the NFL. Bralen Trice probably wont test well at the combine since he's more of an in game guy with his athleticism. He has a decent first step and great foot work. Likes to fool guys with quick moves and changes of direction at the line. After that he's kind of lost. He attacks way too high up and gets caught in blocks he should be winning. ASU's tackles were holding him up which should say something. He's a great hand fighter which makes up for it. The Texas game he was getting caught up too but was just bullying people when they tried to do it. He also seemed to get way better at movement as the season went on. I've only looked at him Tupouola-Fetui in a few games but you can see a huge difference from the ASU to Texas game. He's also a huge effort guy. In the Oregon game they were running away and passing away from him but he was chasing on every single play. He has a big problem with the run game not from lack of size but lack of understanding of run fits. He needs to take better angles persuing QBs too. He kind of is a straight line speed guy despite having good footwork. Definitely a lot of potential.
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Nodoze posted:JJ McCarthy at 13 would be amazing I hope the Raiders do it A cursed comment to be sure
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No Butt Stuff posted:Raiders just trade their first for Justin Fields. So simple. Honestly wayyy better than taking mccarthy at 13
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Doltos posted:Latu is pretty accomplished as a technician. He gets really low and constantly wins leverage battles. He's mostly a hand fighter and uses sheds more than bull rushes or beating people with athleticism. Only average first step, explosion, and strength. He's just smart on how he stunts and where he places his feet. Not a lot of wasted movement. He's also decent in coverage. Latu has a big concern with his neck though. It got surgically repaired but he did lose a ton of time to it. That's why he wears that collar roll. Good lord. I'm talking myself into Newton (partly due to homerism) instead of any of these guys
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Chop Robinson is going to put up mutant numbers at the combine and be drafted way way too high because teams think they can "coach him up"
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Honestly, it's worked out alright drafting freak athlete pass rushers out of Penn State. Micah Parsons is the dude and Odafe Oweh is okay. Plus, guy's name is Chop. Sounds like a fine late first round pick to me.
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I'd probably take Chop over Dallas Turner. I'm watching LSU/Bama right now and the best player on the field is Caleb Downs/Malik Nabers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rjESWQKKVY I don't think I'd take Dallas Turner in the first round.
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Chop is so good when he's on but from what I gather he was on like 15-20% of the time I actually really like what I saw out of Penn State's other DE Adisa Isaac; I think I'd probably rather grab him on Day 2 than risk a top 15 pick on one of the EDGE guys in this class
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Doltos posted:I'd probably take Chop over Dallas Turner. I'm watching LSU/Bama right now and the best player on the field is Caleb Downs/Malik Nabers. Caleb Downs is gonna be a top 10 pick isn't he?
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 love jayden e: this game was funny (thats jared verse) 
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jayden's incredible. it was wild how effectively FSU stopped them in the 2nd half. I think that ended up being one of their lowest scoring games of the year
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At some point during the predraft process someone better put together a supercut of all the cartoon hits Daniels took over the past couple of years https://twitter.com/TheoAshNFL/status/1749881195213865428
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Doltos posted:Latu is pretty accomplished as a technician. He gets really low and constantly wins leverage battles. He's mostly a hand fighter and uses sheds more than bull rushes or beating people with athleticism. Only average first step, explosion, and strength. He's just smart on how he stunts and where he places his feet. Not a lot of wasted movement. He's also decent in coverage. Latu has a big concern with his neck though. It got surgically repaired but he did lose a ton of time to it. That's why he wears that collar roll. This is great work. I think Trice is going to drop because of combine and the tape in big games but I think a huge issue with his run fits is that there was basically no one on that defense who can two gap meaningfully which means they always can get manipulated and moved into the wrong gap like a bad Schiano or Grinch defense on the front. He’s absolutely an odd front guy to me but I think he’s going to produce well in that context Verse and Turner are hilarious because they’re two very very different takes on “pass rush specialist where we hate what he does in run support”. If turner had Will Anderson’s instincts, he would be 1 with a bullet but no one at Bama taught him how to spill or close wide properly or how to cross guys faces consistently because he just either rips or does some weird rip under finish that works but will get punched into oblivion by NFL tackles if he can’t counter off of it. Verse with anything resembling a generic disengagement to regain gap control but he’s too busy learning to clown Ts with half spin long arm bullshit that wins but also puts him 2s behind a called run. It’s like when Jon Jones talked about learning moves from YouTube videos before fights, he just crushes clean technique but it doesn’t matter because the play went away from or past him. Someone needs to get him bending consistently on speed moves to at least gamble for TFLs on early downs like young aldon smith. Latu is like 90% of Nick Bosa as a prospect which is probably worth the gamble. I hate whoever taught him to go at a guy’s ribs on baiting hand fights because he’ll get clamped doing that anywhere inside of a T’s shoulder but the technique and production makes me think he‘ll be fine. I worry a lot about if he’s going to be too stiff at the shoulder with the neck because his hand fighting is going to require flexibility to get around NFL tackle length consistently. Chop is funny. Classic Penn state guy who will get a little bit of coaching and be a 10 year player. I don’t think he’s powerful enough to move around much but maybe the best pure “can play 4-3 or 3-4” edge of the crew on traits like bend and tackling.
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wandler20 posted:Caleb Downs is gonna be a top 10 pick isn't he? He’s the reincarnation of Eric Berry in a defense that’s going to use him as a moving weapon. I’d be floored if he wasn’t.
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Keep saying negative things about Verse so I can finally get a Nole pass rusher on the Bucs.
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My top 100 is like when you take a multiple choice test and keep answering C but instead it's WRs and CBs
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The more tape I watch of Isaiah Davis, the more I realize once he dominates at the Senior Bowl, he won't be a 6th round projection anymore.
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xbilkis posted:At some point during the predraft process someone better put together a supercut of all the cartoon hits Daniels took over the past couple of years Go back and watch the hits he took at ASU, when he was even scrawnier.
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Honestly, it's worked out alright drafting freak athlete pass rushers out of Penn State. Micah Parsons is the dude and Odafe Oweh is okay. Plus, guy's name is Chop. Sounds like a fine late first round pick to me. I think that's a fine take but some GM is gonna see those 40 times and draft him mid 1st
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNIQcqe4MRE He is literally DK Metcalf V2
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Oh hey, that's where Spencer Rattler went. He was the first "Next Patrick Mahomes" if I recall correctly. What are the odds he turns into a starter in the NFL?
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Oh hey, that's where Spencer Rattler went. He was the first "Next Patrick Mahomes" if I recall correctly. What are the odds he turns into a starter in the NFL? He actually has some of the most insane arm talent in this draft. The question was always about maturity and leadership with him. He has this weird diva complex and didn’t take his benching well at Oklahoma. We’ll see. He’s currently graded as a 5th round pick.
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Arnold is a fun corner to watch. https://x.com/BenFennell_NFL/status/1750554885068620279?s=20
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BlindSite posted:Spencer Rattler going somewhere like San Francisco, Minnesota or to the Rams would get kinda interesting, anywhere there's a qb guru and he wouldn't be called on to start right away. I can easily see the Vikings grabbing him if they pass Penix.
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BlindSite posted:Spencer Rattler going somewhere like San Francisco, Minnesota or to the Rams would get kinda interesting, anywhere there's a qb guru and he wouldn't be called on to start right away. Whatcha think?
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A Sneaker Broker posted:Whatcha think? I like it, I could definitely see it. Tagging and trading burns would make things pretty interesting for sure.
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BlindSite posted:I like it, I could definitely see it. Tagging and trading burns would make things pretty interesting for sure. This is my no-trades mock for the Panthers. You grab a blocking and receiving tight end and get two Day 1 starters at WR.
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