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doomfunk posted:what the gently caress is wrong with you ? It's pretty obvious that a change is neccesary
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What I do think is interesting about MS owning Minecraft is they've let the Java version continue to exist instead of forcing everyone into their monetized version of the game like a lot of other tech businesses would have done
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Doomykins posted:lol at "people with no clue gonna keep discussing things dumbly", don't believe your lying eyes, gamers are always wrong significant shout out to 'lets base our other season defining new content on the single most hated part of path path of exile' too. poe players are absolutely up in arms over having to do [the trap gauntlet] Lab 4 times, blizz went and made an entire loving season out of. how does that even happen?
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PoE's had some bad seasons, too, but there's a built-in buffer of the entire rest of the game to mess with and a trade system that lets you get what you want out of the season mechanics without actually having to play stuff you don't enjoy. The biggest complaints come from people who've spent 10k hours in PoE and look forward to the season mechanics as the only new thing left for them to learn but that's a tiny fraction of the playerbase.
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just want to know if the person who came up with the controller setup (the best thing about d4 and the best in the arpg genre) got laid off. if they were then all hope is lostTiny Timbs posted:PoE's had some bad seasons, too, but there's a built-in buffer of the entire rest of the game to mess with and a trade system that lets you get what you want out of the season mechanics without actually having to play stuff you don't enjoy. The biggest complaints come from people who've spent 10k hours in PoE and look forward to the season mechanics as the only new thing left for them to learn but that's a tiny fraction of the playerbase. yeah there were some poe leagues I didn't play the league content at all I'll probably play this d4 season in a couple weeks when they release the patch that makes it less bad (a policy I've adopted for all seasonal games), but that is only because I haven't played all the classes yet. That'll only work a few more times hawowanlawow fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Jan 25, 2024 |
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flashman posted:? It's pretty obvious that a change is neccesary "I hope that d4 workers got laid off because my enjoyment is more important than their livelihood"
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Jeff Fatwood posted:I'm playing the campaign again on HC and the game itself is fine, the season just sucks poo poo. I kinda disagree with this, the base game of D4 is really loving bland. the skill tree serves no purpose when you have 2 options for each skill, the only endgame that exists is nightmare dungeons, and the itemization is probably the worst out of the current arpgs. theres proabbly more thats just off the top of my head. edit: minions suck rear end too which is the greatest crime of all. and lol at basing a selling point of this season on a minion with their current issues, at least everyone gets a taste of necro/druid pets edit: Tiny Timbs posted:PoE's had some bad seasons, too, but there's a built-in buffer of the entire rest of the game to mess with and a trade system that lets you get what you want out of the season mechanics without actually having to play stuff you don't enjoy. The biggest complaints come from people who've spent 10k hours in PoE and look forward to the season mechanics as the only new thing left for them to learn but that's a tiny fraction of the playerbase. yeah im taking a poe break the last 2 seasons but base game poe is the best its ever been right now, so even without seasons the game is hella good if its your jam. I dont think D4 has that to fall back on so a real poo poo season makes the main games shortcomings even more obvious queeb fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Jan 25, 2024 |
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Tiny Timbs posted:What I do think is interesting about MS owning Minecraft is they've let the Java version continue to exist instead of forcing everyone into their monetized version of the game like a lot of other tech businesses would have done Yes they actually made the correct decision, for publicly traded companies, this too often seems difficult. When they bought Mojang they did get rid of the homophobic guy, can't remember his name, and he was running the studio. So getting rid of a sitting president is certainly something they'd do. Very curious as to what their vision is. I guess we'll find out soon enough.
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Jeff Fatwood posted:"I hope that d4 workers got laid off because my enjoyment is more important than their livelihood" The layoffs are done dude I'd prefer if the people making the game lovely were the ones that went?
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MJBuddy posted:A nice recent move is that Blizzard is structurally looking like it's being disentangled from Activision and reporting directly to Phil Spencer in short term. The head of Blizzard is an ex-Xbox exec who worked with him before. Lol gently caress me for this ill timed post.
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flashman posted:The layoffs are done dude I'd prefer if the people making the game lovely were the ones that went? I'm just explaining to you what you said since you don't seem to understand yourself. Perhaps read the thread and stop hoping that people lost their livelihoods over a game. e. fixed to past tense Jeff Fatwood fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Jan 25, 2024 |
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maybe microsoft bought blizz so they could revive rock 'n roll racing
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What is the thought process behind people who die 10 times to one boss fight? Do they approach the entire game with a facetank or die attitude? I understand laziness if you just don't want to move out of AOE but why not just AFK after you're dead rather than rack up a repair bill?
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Jeff Fatwood posted:I'm just explaining to you what you said since you don't seem to understand yourself. Perhaps read the thread and stop hoping that people lost their livelihoods over a game. I understand what I said, out of the 1900 announced layoffs I hope that there is a goodly quantity of those making the lovely product, rather than people working on potentially good new IPs or solid previous ones like d3. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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bamhand posted:What is the thought process behind people who die 10 times to one boss fight? Do they approach the entire game with a facetank or die attitude? I understand laziness if you just don't want to move out of AOE but why not just AFK after you're dead rather than rack up a repair bill? probably think you need to be alive to get credit they could explain that in a loading screen tip but that would encourage dishonorable behavior
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can't be the underleveled leech going AFK for an entire world boss fight if your teammates keep rezzing you
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I'm still so absolutely confused as to why the Gauntlet didn't launch with the season. It was the one, singular thing they were hyping about S3. "Hey, we're finally making an endgame!" And then it's not even going to come out until, probably, most people have burnt out of the season. Special mention goes to my second favourite thing, the seasonal town that inexplicably requires extra effort to be able to teleport out of.
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flashman posted:I hope lots of people who worked on d4 were in the layoffs And when you eventually get laid off, maybe you'll finally have some time to go touch grass, and stop being unnecessarily hostile for no reason.
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Ybarra being out is good news, sucks that other people were let go. Microsoft seems to really, really want to aquire game studios putting out very mid content.Bobby Deluxe posted:I don't think they play it in a normal way. Or at the very least in the same way we do. You can also have the issue where there's a severe lack of "here's what our game is, here's what we want players to do." Looks like D4 is just trying anything it can because there's no one saying "no" or no one looking close enough at the upcoming content. You need a unified understanding of what you want players to experience and guide development with that idea in mind. You don't need a singular "Vision" but a broad design guiderail that says "Players want to kill monsters and get fun stuff; does standing in a corner waiting for traps to expire make sense for this game, and the monsters you fight also give no loot, which I'm sure they will enjoy, maybe?" would probably be helpful to the D4 team. this can also happen if you're afraid to tell your boss their great idea sucks TheAgent fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Jan 25, 2024 |
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euphronius posted:It sold a lot of initial copies but the revenue prospects for additional seasons and expansion packs look dim atm It's really weird they aren't selling skill mtx. So many of the skills are super boring.
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TheAgent posted:This is absolutely a thing that happpens. Rarely do teams look for outside feedback, and when they do they usually turn to streamers, content creators and other high-end players. Fresh eyes and feedback from normal players can really help a team see what the playerbase majority is looking for in your game. The streamers think it's bad too
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External Organs posted:It's really weird they aren't selling skill mtx. So many of the skills are super boring. whoa whoa whoa slow down buddy, give the players a couple more years to adjust to armor mtx
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bio347 posted:I'm still so absolutely confused as to why the Gauntlet didn't launch with the season. It was the one, singular thing they were hyping about S3. "Hey, we're finally making an endgame!" And then it's not even going to come out until, probably, most people have burnt out of the season. Clearly it's not ready for launch. I don't think we want content that even Blizz doesn't think is ready.
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TheAgent posted:Microsoft seems to really, really want to aquire game studios putting out very mid content. tbf I think they got completely boned in a way they couldn't anticipate acquiring Bethesda and getting Redfall and Starfield in return
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Having a chuckle imaging the Gauntlet devs polishing a static layout dungeon with just the nastiest, sickest trap loadouts and environmental dangers while reading feedback on S3. At least they can make the encounters strong? If it's just a random NMD pulled out of a hat with the same layout every time they already have everything in game to provide that other than the leaderboard.
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Tarnop posted:The streamers think it's bad too
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Hopefully all of the laid-off lower-rung employees got severance. It’s safe to assume the laid-off upper management got very generous severance packages, likely per the pre-merger agreement.
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TheAgent posted:I just meant in general -- and I don't think they previewed this with anyone unlike season 2. S3 is complete and absolute loving garbage and universally hated by streamers and regular players alike. I said come in! posted:I am liking this new season. The new dungeons for this season are much better designed and accessible. Blizzard listened and addressed many of my chief complaints about the design of Diablo IV.
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flashman posted:I understand what I said, out of the 1900 announced layoffs I hope that there is a goodly quantity of those making the lovely product, rather than people working on potentially good new IPs or solid previous ones like d3. They didn't get laid off because they made, what you think is a lovely product. They way more likely got laid off because whatever internal metrics they're using told them to lay off this number of people to make their stock number go up. Maybe bad D4 publicity or an underperforming season had some hand in it but you have no way of knowing that. You feel slighted that your treats aren't to your liking and hope that there's some sort of a primitive retribution to people you don't know over something that in the grand scheme of things affects you 0% Infantile gamer brain horseshit
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doomfunk posted:to contextualize my reaction: I worked on this game. I played this game a lot with my team. I loved my work. I was laid off in September and with roughly 15% of the entire industry being laid off in the last two years this has been a particularly difficult jobless period. I'm sorry this happened. Hope you land all right.
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The lack of matchmaking in games like Destiny 2 and Diablo 4 is the biggest bullshit ever. Like wtf are they thinking. The most absolutely fundamental feature to modern multiplayer games -- if you dont have a server browser or matchmaking then wtf r you doing!!!
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I take it all back, swim lanes are clear, queue up the next content drop on the diving board and get coach to sign off on it
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Tarnop posted:The streamers think it's bad too Short of sending a shitload of surveys to random players they're going to get skewed feedback, and we saw how sending surveys to random players went last time.
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doomfunk posted:to contextualize my reaction: I worked on this game. I played this game a lot with my team. I loved my work. I was laid off in September and with roughly 15% of the entire industry being laid off in the last two years this has been a particularly difficult jobless period. Hey I know this doesn't mean much, but I genuinely enjoy this game. So thanks for the work you did, and I hope you can find a cool place to do more cool work and get paid well for it!
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euphronius posted:The good news is maybe our beloved Blizzard IP may (may) end up in more competent hands Heroes of the Storm is coming back, baby!!!
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Streamers are a bizarre source of info because they're engaged in the hyperbole machine. If they're having PM conversations under an NDA then maybe, but any contact with the devs that can be mined for outrage to drive up clicks is going to be seen as fair game. Everything has to be the best ever or a sign of impending death for the franchise. Wudijo has seen the itemization changes with an NDA and given feedback about the AoZ boss fight being really bad when it was originally a multiple trillion HP single boss fight that they ultimately changed to the blood seekers based on his feedback. Even he, a player who has this much access, says this season is bad. It's not done for clicks and hyperbole Rob, too, has said this season is bad. It's just that bad
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Orange Crush Rush posted:Heroes of the Storm is coming back, baby!!! Funny enough there has been patches for it recently with balance changes. Signs of life!
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Streamers are a bizarre source of info because they're engaged in the hyperbole machine. If they're having PM conversations under an NDA then maybe, but any contact with the devs that can be mined for outrage to drive up clicks is going to be seen as fair game. Everything has to be the best ever or a sign of impending death for the franchise. Extremely hot take here but I think that most people trying to make a living off of the game really just want the game to be good so they can continue to make a living off of it and so more people will enjoy the game thus expanding their audience. I'm not super into watching d4 content but I see some amount of it and most of the big names are not trying to farm outrage content, they seem to earnestly want it to be better. There's a lot more stuff like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mQYwproTLI than stuff just wildly making GBS threads on it. hell for how apocalyptic the popular reception to the season is (I had not looked at diablo4 reddit until this morning and holy poo poo), arpg content creators are being remarkably gentle. What is the survey thing you are referencing? Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Jan 25, 2024 |
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kumba posted:did they make leveling much much faster since S1? how were people level 100 after a day there have been systemic level changes that affect leveling (density, XP for events/mobs) as well as a lot of practice. the fastest people are getting to 100 in about 16 hours so far this season, i think about 12 last season was the record. they have a pattern they follow with 3 other highly boredom-averse people and they do really boring grinding to get to 100, usually also at the expense of all the other stuff people do until 100 (gear, seasonal mechanics, uh...)
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Herstory Begins Now posted:
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