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im officially giving everyone reading this thread permission to watch the royal rumble, if you want enjoy it. free of charge ill revoke it if i see u being a little bitch ab it, tho. and the other non wwe fans here are very likely not to give it to u, so dont look a gift horse in the mouth 
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Fucker posted:im officially giving everyone reading this thread permission to watch the royal rumble, if you want I wasn't going to watch it anyway, please revoke.
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I'm also disgusted with people like Cena, Undertaker, Foley, etc. Legends who have been stone silent for the last 24+ hours. Foley especially, because he's done a lot of volunteer work for RAINN in the past.
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On The Internet posted:Not enough people are thinking of CM Punk. If WWE dies because it's full of monsters and monster sympathizers will he have to go back to getting his nuts smashed by Satoshi Kojima???? Is that fair to the ol Punker? Vince and CM Punk will never go hungry because they are welcome to eat my entire rear end.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:I'm also disgusted with people like Cena, Undertaker, Foley, etc. Legends who have been stone silent for the last 24+ hours. Hate to say it but Foley was only ever worried about rape outside of the fed because he needed to make sure he'd always have a job in the future.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:I'm also disgusted with people like Cena, Undertaker, Foley, etc. Legends who have been stone silent for the last 24+ hours. Foley gotta stay quiet so his talentless kids still have a shot to work for the Fed again someday.
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TheKingslayer posted:Vince and CM Punk will never go hungry because they are welcome to eat my entire rear end. CM Punk and Vince confirmed for the KISS MY rear end CLUB!
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:I'm also disgusted with people like Cena, Undertaker, Foley, etc. Legends who have been stone silent for the last 24+ hours. reminder that in march 2023, almost a full year after everything came out, and after he had already went out for vince's birthday celebration, john cena said "we all make mistakes" when asked about vince https://www.wrestlinginc.com/1227251/john-cena-on-vince-mcmahon-allegations-we-all-make-mistakes/
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:I'm also disgusted with people like Cena, Undertaker, Foley, etc. Legends who have been stone silent for the last 24+ hours. Cena and Taker were never going to say anything, but yeah, Foley hurts.
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Fucker posted:im officially giving everyone reading this thread permission to watch the royal rumble, if you want Work with a guy who was getting his rumble watch party ready and has been talking about it all week. Can't imagine he's taken the news well Not much to add to what everyone's already said but it's just unbelievably grim
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JUNGLE BOY posted:reminder that in march 2023, almost a full year after everything came out, and after he had already went out for vince's birthday celebration, john cena said "we all make mistakes" when asked about vince John Cena said 'pobodys nerfect'
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Maybe it's naive of me but I want to give Foley some time to make a statement. He hasn't been as overtly My Buddy Vince as someone like Taker or Cena, and I don't think it helps to paint people as hypocrites for not immediately speaking up about a situation that is this horrific when they have their own set of legal hurdles they likely have to work through, considering the contracts he's been under. I very much doubt considering his checkered past with Vince that he's ignorant nor would he be a defender, and he's someone with enough connections that he has little to lose, but when someone you're close in any way with is without a shadow of a doubt shown to be so much more horrifying on this level than was expected it can take time to formulate the right thoughts. I can only hope he's working on something with RAINN as well. If he lets me down he lets me down  The news broke one day ago and while I know things have been moving fast it is still important to remember that.Would be nice to get a big "gently caress 'em" post from him though, I won't lie. Because, well, gently caress 'em.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:I'm also disgusted with people like Cena, Undertaker, Foley, etc. Legends who have been stone silent for the last 24+ hours. What, Cena hasn't posted some milquetoast quote about perseverance from a $50 inspirational coffee table book?
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the stamford newspaper doesn't have the lawsuit as a main story on its home page with a pic, headline, etc but it does have "the rock takes picture with local kid outside wwe headquarters." it does have a story that doesn't go into the worst of the accusations but does mention vince greeted the victim while he was in his underwear (??). that story isn't in the top 7 most popular stories, but the rock one is lol. i guess stamford really is a company town
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Erin M. Fiasco posted:Maybe it's naive of me but I want to give Foley some time to make a statement. He hasn't been as overtly My Buddy Vince as someone like Taker or Cena, and I don't think it helps to paint people as hypocrites for not immediately speaking up about a situation that is this horrific when they have their own set of legal hurdles they likely have to work through, considering the contracts he's been under. I very much doubt considering his checkered past with Vince that he's ignorant nor would he be a defender, and he's someone with enough connections that he has little to lose, but when someone you're close in any way with is without a shadow of a doubt shown to be so much more horrifying on this level than was expected it can take time to formulate the right thoughts. I can only hope he's working on something with RAINN as well. He's appeared on WWE television as recently as November and sent two of his kids to work for Vince.
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Well, at least they'll get punished where it counts, like the Rumble, which is... the biggest gate in non-mania history and still selling tickets at a premium Hey, maybe there will be a halfhearted chant that gets muted, or a pulled sign?
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Man this loving sucks. Rumble night was a big night for our friends group where all of the dads/moms/idiots found one of two times a year to always get together for 15-16 years running. Obviously I'm out on it this year, gonna stay home and knit and watch the last Hercule Poirot movie with my wife, but when I mentioned it to our group chat... "well Vince has onthing to do with the WWE anymore sooooo" "I just don't get why the woman didn't just quit her job and report it... why wait until you find out $2mil of your 3mil hush money isn't coming" "did Vince eat corn before he did it?" <- this text has like, five heart/laughing reacts to it idk. I'm tired. I have lovely old friends apparently.
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haven't watched wrestling in many years but last i remember of mick foley was him being kind of a creep? if i remember right his second or third book was full of odd, creepy stuff?
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Yeah I'd hope like Cena wasn't aware of all this and will say something. But pretty much anyone who was an exec or around for that long has a lot of doubt cast on them if they say they didn't know about this. My one personal experience with Foley was at a comic convention where he was signing his book. But he was spending most of his time talking to and ogling the attractive actress that was set up next to his table and pretty much ignoring everyone else. It also caused him to not give change to this mother and daughter in front of me who paid him to sign his book and they dejectedly walked away since they couldn't get his attention. That experience really made me think he's kind of creepy and I haven't been a big fan since Codependent Poster fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Jan 26, 2024 |
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Pope Corky the IX posted:He's appeared on WWE television as recently as November and sent two of his kids to work for Vince.  Well, my hopes are rock bottom then.
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Zoobtro posted:haven't watched wrestling in many years but last i remember of mick foley was him being kind of a creep? if i remember right his second or third book was full of odd, creepy stuff? I read his second book and while there was a lot of juvenile humor in it (mainly mutual interactions with his friends like Al Snow and Edge) I didn't think there was anything creepy. I haven't read the book he wrote when he was in TNA though
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Honesty, with the amount of concussions Foley has, he probably doesn’t even remember most of his time there- outside of the big “moments” which he’s talked about daily for 25 years edit: it’s not a excuse for him, just pointing out
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Erin M. Fiasco posted:
If he hasn't mentioned anything by the time his new podcast episode drops next week Friday, he's not going to say anything.
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Foley's third book is basically a stalker love letter to Melina
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Zoobtro posted:haven't watched wrestling in many years but last i remember of mick foley was him being kind of a creep? if i remember right his second or third book was full of odd, creepy stuff? His third book talked about his friendly relationships with the Divas, who according to him all liked him. The creepy stuff mostly stems from a situation where he talked about sharing a sandwich with someone, I think Melina but it's been a while, and it reflected something he had written in one of his novels about using a sandwich as an Indirect Kiss. It was juvenile and sold as a funny story between himself and whoever it was, but it comes off as definitely trying to seem cool to the imaginary horny teenager reading The Hardcore Diaries looking for the secret life of their favorite WWE Diva™. There's a lot of I'm Good Old Safe Uncle Mick stuff in there which is always a sus thing. I don't remember it being as gross as some do, but it was formative in my early fandom because of the peek behind the curtain it gave me and it's been a very long time since I've read it, and I certainly haven't revisited it as an adult lately. Erin M. Fiasco fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Jan 26, 2024 |
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It’d be nice if some wrestlers and crew/staff had the guts to not show up to the rumble in protest. I’m expecting nothing from anybody, though, and for everything to go on like normal.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:I read his second book and while there was a lot of juvenile humor in it (mainly mutual interactions with his friends like Al Snow and Edge) I didn't think there was anything creepy. i definitely remember thinking mick was maybe not "one of the good guys" anymore. he was creeping on the women a lot. i think it was melina in particular or maybe i'm misremembering? i'll shut up if there's nothing to this.
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We've talked about how there's no ethical consumption under capitalism. But it's also pretty hard to have ethical employment under capitalism. It's sad and it sucks. I don't know what else to say about it. Zoobtro posted:i definitely remember thinking mick was maybe not "one of the good guys" anymore. he was creeping on the women a lot. i think it was melina in particular or maybe i'm misremembering? i'll shut up if there's nothing to this. It was Melina and he definitely came off as a little creepy towards her. Not in a 'cancel this motherfucker' kind of way but in a 'this isn't great behavior Mick' sort of way.
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Erin M. Fiasco posted:His third book talked about his friendly relationships with the Divas, who according to him all liked him. The creepy stuff mostly stems from a situation where he talked about sharing a sandwich with someone, I think Melina but it's been a while, and it reflected something he had written in one of his novels about using a sandwich as an Indirect Kiss. It was juvenile and sold as a funny story between himself and whoever it was, but it comes off as definitely trying to seem cool to the imaginary horny teenager reading The Hardcore Diaries looking for the secret life of their favorite WWE Diva™. ah there we go. maybe it wasn't as bad as i remember.
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the sex ghost posted:Work with a guy who was getting his rumble watch party ready and has been talking about it all week. Can't imagine he's taken the news well I had to explain this poo poo to my team today. None of them are big wrestling guys and I don't think this has made the news in Finland at all, but they know me as the wrestling dude and one of them had heard something about Vince, so we had a 10 minute discussion about why Vince is a massive piece of poo poo, which involved some googling because a couple of them wouldn't believe half of the poo poo.
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Omnikin posted:Man this loving sucks. Rumble night was a big night for our friends group where all of the dads/moms/idiots found one of two times a year to always get together for 15-16 years running. Obviously I'm out on it this year, gonna stay home and knit and watch the last Hercule Poirot movie with my wife, but when I mentioned it to our group chat... People are flippant about this stuff because it is low brow entertainment with zero stakes, and that leeches into their perception. Also wrestling fans are the type to have never progressed past 6th grade. I don't really care if people watch the Rumble or the WWE product as a whole, no ethical consumption in capitalism and etc. I personally am not 1) because I don't watch WWE and 2) I have things to do. If you have been doing this for years knowing who Vince is, what is the difference ultimately? It's just entertainment. I still expect nothing to really come of this until proven otherwise. Dana slapping his wife in public on video was more visceral and he skated. Vince backed down once but he will not do it again. It'd have to be by force.
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That complaint is loving insane. Multiple people should be in jail because of this. And we know that this was just one hush money payment of many. It's sickening.
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Think people need to be mentally preparing themselves for the fact that a LOT of wrestlers/wrestling figures that they really loved/respected are gonna turn out to have either actively participated in this poo poo or at the very least knew it was happening and didn't care.
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Dave has mentioned or intimated multiple times over the years that Foley may have some sort of rep/history, but has not mentioned anything particular. This was his reaction to Foley inducting Stacy, for example "Because Mick is such a big fan of the women's wrestlers, it almost like comes off..it's like he's too big of a fan, you know what I mean? It's like its...I don't know how to explain it but I don't think too many people will disagree with me on this one either. There's like a line, like you can be supportive but it's just like...[groans] I don't know. It's, it's...I don't want to say "creepy," that's too strong of a word but there is a word there that I can't come up with right on the spur of the moment. It's not smooth to watch. I'll just say that. There's something about it that's not quite...I don't know." Does dave have a receipt? Who knows. But he seems to at least have a price tag.
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JethroMcB posted:What, Cena hasn't posted some milquetoast quote about perseverance from a $50 inspirational coffee table book? It wouldn’t shock me one bit if Cena deliberately went out of his way to never ever know what was going on so that when he says he didn’t know the scope he’s technically telling the truth. Cena ain’t stupid.
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UnleashedDad posted:I personally am not 1) because I don't watch WWE and 2) I have things to do. If you have been doing this for years knowing who Vince is, what is the difference ultimately? It's just entertainment. I guess I never looked too deeply? I'm part of the complicity problem, I suppose. But now that it's actively flying right in our faces, holy poo poo something has to change.
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projecthalaxy posted:Dave has mentioned or intimated multiple times over the years that Foley may have some sort of rep/history, but has not mentioned anything particular. This was his reaction to Foley inducting Stacy, for example I mean, one of Foley’s books was one big Nice Guy message to Melina so…
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I help host a Royal Rumble party every year at my friends bar. It’s the only time we ever watch WWE anymore, but now we might just cancel the whole thing. Also, there’s a lot of people using Triple HGH not being named as an excuse to still watch the fed.
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Drakkel posted:Think people need to be mentally preparing themselves for the fact that a LOT of wrestlers/wrestling figures that they really loved/respected are gonna turn out to have either actively participated in this poo poo or at the very least knew it was happening and didn't care. It's often been said in this subforum that (until proven otherwise), it's easier to just accept that almost every single pro wrestler is, at best, a horribly broken person; and at worst, a gigantic piece of poo poo.
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