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The real reason Alastor controls Husk's soul is that there's only room in Hell for one demon with a creepy voodoo gimmick.
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Oxxidation posted:hoping that we get to see adam turned inside-out by the end of this season at least. christ, what an rear end in a top hat Honestly would not be surprised he gets killed and it just causes further tension between Heaven/Hell wtih Sara as she probably would double down on the executions. I would not be surprised if Lute falls back after Adam is killed and becoems the new head of the executioner. I"m honeslty expecting either Eve or God to show up at the end of season.
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I'm also expecting Emily to either join Charlie or get killed trying to help (her faith in the system was pretty thoroughly eradicated by that meeting)
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Jan 27, 2024 20:23
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Larryb posted:Similar hats too Only difference is Dr. Facilier died in the 1920's as a young man and Husk died in the 1970's when he was around 60-70.
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Jan 27, 2024 20:43
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Flopsy posted:Husk died in the 1970's when he was around 60-70.
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Jan 27, 2024 21:25
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Do we have death dates for the other major sinners out of curiosity then?
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Larryb posted:Do we have death dates for the other major sinners out of curiosity then? Now I am going off the Wiki for this, so these might not all be right, I don't know if there's a current official character list out there. Some of this might be outdated pilot info. Nifty: 1950s Cherri Bomb: 1980s Husk: 1970s Alastor: Specifically 1933 Mimzy: 1920s Pentious: Specifically 1888 Angel Dust: Specifically 1947 Vox: 1950s Valentino: 1970s Velvette: ??? (probably 2000s if I had to guess) Zestial: ??? (probably one of the oldest if not the oldest) Carmilla: ???
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Macaluso posted:Now I am going off the Wiki for this, so these might not all be right, I don't know if there's a current official character list out there. Some of this might be outdated pilot info. Kind of funny when it's put down like that, but Sir Pentious is one of the oldest sinners in the series other than Zestiel and he's basically a nobody in hell. Makes you wonder how he survived so many executions. Hidingo Kojimba fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Jan 27, 2024 |
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Jan 27, 2024 22:09
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Macaluso posted:Zestial: ??? (probably one of the oldest if not the oldest) cant place exactly why but the hat makes me think of 1600s dutch merchants
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Jan 27, 2024 22:44
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The only thing we know is that Zestial is the oldest of all the overlords. He's practically anicent. His manner of speech might suggest a time of catles, knights, etc.
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Jan 27, 2024 23:21
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I wonder if any of the goetia demons other than Stolas will show up.
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Velvette is about as old as Vox and Valentino as far as when she died, she just is basically the only overlord who enjoys modernising. She chases the latest trends in everything even though she died in the 60s or something. The Vees all arrived close together and quickly formed a collaboration effort. Hidingo Kojimba posted:Kind of funny when it's put down like that, but Sir Pentious is one of the oldest sinners in the series other than Zestiel and he's basically a nobody in hell. Makes you wonder how he survived so many executions. Someone suggested that he might have worked for an Overlord that Alastor killed and overthrew. Hence the 20 fights even though Alastor has been gone for 7 years.
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I would guess that if higher ranking demons (sans Lucifer) show up, it'll be stuff from later seasons - antagonists for the first two seasons are probably mostly related to heaven (with a possible secondary antagonist in the Vs), but once there's some sort of "the hotel has actually somewhat worked/improved life in hell somehow"-proof, we might get other powers in hell starting to pay attention to it, both good and bad. For contractual reasons I doubt any sin or goetia that appears in helluva boss will appear in Hazbin, besides maybe some small cameo. I'm fairly sure one or two will eventually pop up if the show gets 3+ seasons. I guess Belphegor might, apparently Charlie had their number on her phone? I feel like Satan probably won't, as imp stuff seems way more relevant in Helluva Boss, and he's kind of related to them. On the other hand, Satan and Lucifer appearing and being different people could work as a gag, with some sinner demon or angel being confused by them being different entities.
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There’s also Leviathan though somehow I feel like she also has a better chance of showing up in HB than she does in Hazbin
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I think any character who has a voice actor in both series is plausible, and frankly the Sins in general seem like the most obvious to show up at least once in Hazbin even if they're mostly in HB. Just because I can easily imagine Lucifer calling them in for a song/fight/plot beat.
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It won't be the answer, but an answer that would get Adam into heaven and exclude a ton of other people: How many people you hurt in life and how many have forgiven you.
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Jan 28, 2024 00:45
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The -iel ending implies that Zestiel is also a fallen angel, like Lucifer.
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Madurai posted:The -iel ending implies that Zestiel is also a fallen angel, like Lucifer. This is my opinion, Zestial is a fallen angel who doesn't want the attention and so is acting as a Mortal Overlord instead. It would explain why Lucifer is willing to hang with him in the pilot, beyond just uncertainty about the overall story. Lord_Magmar fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Jan 28, 2024 |
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So are the Exorcists heavenborn? Is Lute a Heavenborn or Sinless? Sinless would be the mortal opposite of Sinners yeah?
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a neat cape posted:So are the Exorcists heavenborn? Is Lute a Heavenborn or Sinless? Sinless would be the mortal opposite of Sinners yeah? Winner is the show lore opposite of a sinner. And I expect the exorcists are all hand-picked human souls gifted certain abilities to get the job done.
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Also Adam is explicitly stated to be the biblical Adam (as for why he never takes off his Executioners mask I’m guessing he got his face hosed up during a raid, likely by going after Lilith at one point)
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a neat cape posted:So are the Exorcists heavenborn? Is Lute a Heavenborn or Sinless? Sinless would be the mortal opposite of Sinners yeah? Given they're all female looking I'm guessing it's just Adam building a fanclub of ladies amongst mortal "Winners" in heaven.
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Kinda makes me wonder what Eve’s deal in this universe is then
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kinda surprised there hasn't been an outpouring of hazbin merch (I know there's the pilot related stuff) since it came out. No...fat nuggets plush (official) or anything. Vivzie was quick to put out stuff for helluva boss but nothing new for hazbin, wonder if there's some contractual thing of 'none'
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A24 has its own merch store, they might be tailoring some stuff for it.
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There's been Hazbin stuff amongst the Helluva Boss merch, I think they just didn't want to put too much out until the show is actually out and we've had a chance to meet all the characters. There will be swimsuit Vox keychains in no time
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I actually really wanna see Adam's face not because I expect it's messed up but because I want him plain as gently caress because it makes his monstrous behavior even more blatant. That someone who looks extremely human is one of the most hosed up people in the show's canon is interesting to me.
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He's probably bald under the mask.
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As an aside, I'd actually say Sera's judgement was correct, but only in a technical "letter of the law" sense. Angel is evidence that souls in hell can become better people. He is not, however, evidence that they can be redeemed into heaven, as he's still in hell and still a demon. And since they do not know the criteria for entering heaven, they can't even say he's actually achieved any of the criteria.
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Adder Moray posted:As an aside, I'd actually say Sera's judgement was correct, but only in a technical "letter of the law" sense. But it essentially makes it a kangaroo court as she knows it's going to be a lose/ lose situation either way.
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Flopsy posted:I actually really wanna see Adam's face not because I expect it's messed up but because I want him plain as gently caress because it makes his monstrous behavior even more blatant. That someone who looks extremely human is one of the most hosed up people in the show's canon is interesting to me. My money's on the twist of him being a demon under it.
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Flopsy posted:But it essentially makes it a kangaroo court as she knows it's going to be a lose/ lose situation either way. I think she expected that the conclusion was foregone, but also expected Adam to have some idea of how he got there in the first place, so there'd be evidence that none of the sinners were achieving the criteria. Adam laying out an actual check list and Angel ticking all of the boxes probably wasn't a result she was expecting. Charlie'd probably have a stronger case if Angel hadn't checked all of the boxes.
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Oxxidation posted:hoping that we get to see adam turned inside-out by the end of this season at least. christ, what an rear end in a top hat I love all the little touches (the ribs, him photobombing multiple cuts in the Heaven court song) but I think the one that just adds the right needlessly obnoxious frisson is him singing his own guitar solo in e1
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Adder Moray posted:As an aside, I'd actually say Sera's judgement was correct, but only in a technical "letter of the law" sense. that last part is what kills her case, because if she doesn't know the criteria then it's not even certain if "better people" are qualified to get into heaven at all. one place is a sparkly shopping plaza where everyone's happy and polite, and the other's a puke-soaked anarchic slum where shooting someone in the gut is how you say "hello" and "goodbye." who's to say that the many sinners act the way they do because they get randomly binned into the latter? sure, like you said, she's "technically correct," but it's a correctness that results in someone burning down the courtroom
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More things need to make room for flapper energy so Sarah Stiles can just bring it every time.
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So can the sinners have children in hell? Because Carmilla had her two "daughters" with her. And I just noticed, the blonde one doesn't actually have horns, they're just a headband, which is adorable.
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Megillah Gorilla posted:So can the sinners have children in hell? Because Carmilla had her two "daughters" with her. No, Sinners (except Lilith?) cannot have children in Hell. Hellborn and definitely the Goetia can. Fallen Angels presumably can. Those were probably her daughters in life, reunited in death. Given how protective she is, they may have even died before her.
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Oxxidation posted:that last part is what kills her case, because if she doesn't know the criteria then it's not even certain if "better people" are qualified to get into heaven at all. one place is a sparkly shopping plaza where everyone's happy and polite, and the other's a puke-soaked anarchic slum where shooting someone in the gut is how you say "hello" and "goodbye." who's to say that the many sinners act the way they do because they get randomly binned into the latter? It's why I keep saying someone's getting in by the end of the season. The idea of people getting out of hell has to be proven possible or impossible by the end of the season or else the show is spinning its wheels. If it happens in a scenario that's non-replicable, even better, because it's now proven that the goal is possible, but whether or not Charlie can do it consistently is still in question. But whether or not a soul can be redeemed needs to be answered. Lord_Magmar posted:No, Sinners (except Lilith?) cannot have children in Hell. Hellborn and definitely the Goetia can. Fallen Angels presumably can. Adder Moray fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Jan 28, 2024 |
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i wonder whether Angel Dust's sister is gonna be A Character, she's supposed to be up in heaven right?
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Catgirl Al Capone posted:i wonder whether Angel Dust's sister is gonna be A Character, she's supposed to be up in heaven right? Probably, especially considering that during the Welcome to heaven-song one of the characters who kept showing up in the background was a spiderlike angel who did have some resemblance to Angel Dust.
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